Sex Before Marriage !

well,to feel guilty or not guilty, it all depends on which angle you look at the issue.
From religion point of view, it is obvious that it is wrong and if you are a true follower of the teaching, definetely you will feel guilty.
But, the Q everybody is asking is that is it wrong to have sex with the one you love? Is it not natural that when a relationship develop and reach a stage when you want to feel intimate and the warm of your love one and eventually lead to sex?
So, do you need to feel guilty in this case?

I understand the emotional feelings invoulved here, and love is one if not the most powerful of them all. However I must say that it takes all the will power one can muster to no givein to this emotion. A lot of times we do, however the thing to remember is this. Even though we commit this sin when we become enlightened in the Word of God, the most important thing to remember is " we must REPENT " and ask for forgiveness of that sin. Until we do we'er held accountable and should feel guilty.

Not guilty. Having sex as prescribed by God is not a transgression of divine law. If you were having sex in a bed before you were married, then it is not the marriage bed in which it could have become defiled. Once married and engaging in behavior other than God intended, such as engaging in behavior that would transgress God's laws concerning such things, such as having a threesome with your wife's mother or sister, or engaging in homosexual activity, would then defile the marriage bed. Nothing that a married couple do together as man and wife in bed can be considered defiling.

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As far as the marriage bed is concerned I agree. It takes a sharp eye to see the difference. Of course this are is a two part question being asked here, the latter being well answered. Your point is well taken. This question of the marriage bed is improperly stated here and this writer apologizes for the error. Moving onto part1, about pre marital sex, according to 1Cor.7:1 and 1Thes.4:3, Acts15:20, 29,1Cor.5:1,6:13,18-20. The key words in these scriptures are

There is great wisdom in abstaning before marriage. The problem I see is that people get TOO emotionally and physically involved and it leads to sex if they don't pull HARD on the reigns. They start a fire that burns out of control. I think on this if you have had sex before marriage one question I would ask, how many times were 'in the moment?' Many young people do not realize the damage that is done when they lose their virginity. Physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Just my thoughts at this time.

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Good Topic though

Now that is a great attitude and advice to others who have doubts about the question. I applaud and tip my hat to your comments. Your points are well taken and factual. Listen up young folks ! Wisdom is being shared, take it and run. This isn't chastisement of people young or old, just information. Its valuable. Your comments are greatly appreciated. Hope you'll recommend this blog to a friend.

Good Topic though

No it's not, it's a completely recycled topic that has been hopelessly debated forever.

I think of the analogy of duct tape when I hear this issue come up from time to time.

When we get intimate way before we should because we are to young, immature, or emotionally not in a good place it's similar to putting duct tape around our arm. It sticks really well but when the relationship ends it's like that duct tape gets ripped off. It hurts and takes pieces of our skin and hair with it.

When the next partner enters into our lives, we again put that duct tape back on. It fits fairly snugly still but not like it did the first time. When this relationship ends, off goes the tape. It still hurts but not nearly as much as the first time. Again the process may be repeated and with each time the tape doesn't stick quite as well with each go round. When we put the tape on again and again, we have leftover skin and hair from past adhesions making it stick less and less.

I believe by doing all this we bring all those past experiences with us into our marriages and it's not beneficial at all and in fact can be quite harmful not to mention not sticking like it should.

Sons of Thunder. About 1 Corinthians 7: 1&2. The words "ye wrote" in the first verse deals specifically with the Corinthians having written a letter, but carefully avoided any reference to the disorders among themselves. These had been reported by the members of Chloe's family (1-11&12), and the scandal referred to in ch.5 was a common report, which was perhaps made known by Stephanas and others, ch16, v 17.
The one important thing to remember is that once one repents and no longer engages in the particular transgression, it is forgiven and your slate is once again wiped clean. Remember also, that one can be forgiven 490 times a day, and no one I know of can fornicate that many times in a day.
Rest easy....Rest in Christ.

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I'm not really certain how the bible or spiritual scriptures define "marriage". It's my understanding that marriage is a spiritual contract between 2 people that love each other, whom ask GOD to bless that relationship. It seems odd to me that GOD would insist on a religious or leagal ceremony to consecrate a marriage.

I was taught that the "church" was in my heart. If my partner and I promise to live together the way we believe GOD wants us to, and ask HIM to bless our relationship, are we not married?

Since when have men had the right to judge our spiritual relationships with other people let alone our relationship with GOD?

So in order to answer, I suppose I need to know how we define marriage under these circumstances as well as who actually defines "marriage".


Additionally, I would be more concerned with divorce rather than judging marriage. I understand divorce to be the ending of the union a couple has asked GOD to bless. This to me seems more of a transgression, and far more noticable.

Guilty. But funny thing is I don't feel guilty.
And I know I should because sex is really such a filthy thing, you know.

It's really filthy when you do it in the mud right after a hard rain.

This maybe a recycled topic, however it does have an anawer wheather we choose to accept it or not. I speak of the Holy Scriptures as I'm sure you're aware. This is a topic of discussion where wisdom will be shared and gained. Thanks.

This is a topic of discussion where wisdom will be shared and gained.

I'm always in favor of that. Seriously, how come when the subject of Holy Scripture comes up it always seems to come up in a context to make one feel bad about one's self? I mean, I KNOW I'm a sinner and fall WAY short of the glory of God and all that, but c'mon! My take on the matter is to leave the past in the past and don't look back feeling all bad about yourself just because back in the day you got some. Sure, to abstain from premarital sex may be a moral virtue. But let's forgive ourselves and move on with the memory that it was fun while it lasted!

Just my 2 cents...

A great analogy of the topic put forth. I like that. Keep it commin. I want to see what people think of these controvershal topics. A lot can be learned and shared here through discussions. Everone has an opinion.

Orionsbelt77: You are quite right about the church at Corinth. They had many issues that needed to be addressed. Repent is the key work here and well stated. Thats the guilty part. When we Repent of our wrongdoing in this matter and abstain and ask forgiveness, the slate as you say is wiped clean.

Xythe: The Holy Scriptures classify marriage as this: Marriage is the rendering of several words and phrasesin the Heb. and Gk., meaning to be " master:; to "take," that is, a wife; to "magnify" or "lift up" a woman; to "contract" to "dwell together" ; to 'perform the duty of a brother"; to "become," that is, the wife of one. I'm sure if you read Gen. 2: 18, and 24 you will see what I'm talking about. Now Christian is stated differently. Christianity confirms, simplifies, and vindicates from abuse the original and secred ordinance of marriage. The stability and purity of the church and state have been proportionate to the popular and legal stability of the marriage relationship. The original apointment of manogamy is confirmed (Matt. 19:6; Mark. 10:6-8). Matthew 19. 5-6 should be very helpful to your understanding. With much love.

This is a topic of discussion where wisdom will be shared and gained.

And regurgitated.

I think the entire idea of 'sex' before marriage being 'wrong' is more religious dogma then it is any actual sin.

Deference.
Dogma is something held as an established opinion. Sin is a transgression of God's laws. God's laws are not opinions, nor are they mere suggestions. We all fall short of the glory of God, and I for one am very much included in that lot, but no matter how much we sin, we are forgiven through repentance. It is one thing to sin in ignorance, and in doing so one is not held accountable. However, once one learns that a particular act is a sin and continues in it without repentance, that then is counted against him/her.
"For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved" John 3:20

Semantics and the splitting of hairs.

Please excuse, I am not always the most clear. Allow me to more accurately re-phrase my thought.

I believe fornication is more a perceived sin because of some religious dogma that has little to do with what Christ taught or what the Bible has to offer as footnotes to the Ten Commandments in chapters written by men.

I am not promoting promiscuity, I am stating I've found lack of consistency within the bible (alone) and some religious denominations' interpretation of it holding that men and women should be somehow bound in some certain manner and that bind is violated by premarital sexual conduct.

Dogma is something held as an established opinion. - Orionsbelt77

From Dictionary.reference.com

dawg-muh ; noun, plural

1. a system of principles or tenets, as of a church.

2. a specific tenet or doctrine authoritatively laid down, as by a church: the dogma of the Assumption.[ you should know something about that Orion ]

3. prescribed doctrine: political dogma.

4. a settled or established opinion, belief, or principle.

I believe your definition is at the furthest bottom of those offered for the meaning of 'dogma'. The first and second definitions specifically mention the church, so I believe they are more pertinent to the topic. If we apply these definitions to the modern day examples of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ayatollah Khomeneni, and Osama Bin Laden, we realize God's word falling like rain upon man made from the earth making mud out of the original message.

We find the rhetoric and opinion of televangelists, zealots, mullahs and fundamentalists with axes to grind to be further away from personal direct interpretation of scripture then that which is acceptable to rational individuals.

I find it very intresting there so many many different opions about this topic. Orionsbelt ! You and I appear to be on the same page and wave lenght about this topic. Once you come into the knowlede we learn of our mistakes. Either we have people who refuse thar knowledge or have their own agenda. Either way we must all give an account for the deeds done in the body whether it be good or bad. I don't see us being able to argue when the books are opened and our lives revealed before judgement.

" Peace, Love and Understanding "

I believe fornication is more a perceived sin because of some religious dogma that has little to do with what Christ taught or what the Bible has to offer as footnotes to the Ten Commandments in chapters written by men.

perceived sin? Hmmmm never heard of that. Sin is sin. Either it is or it's not. So you're saying sex outside of marriage is not sin? In every culture that I'm aware of sex outside of marriage traditionally has always been a sin. Where does this come from?

When Christ rescued the woman caught in adultery (sex outside of marriage) he told her "to go and sin no more."

Marriage between a man and woman in scripture is the foundation for the family. Our society is built on that strong pillar of family foundation. When that wobbles and comes crashing down, society comes crashing down as well. I believe we're seeing that today.

Sex outside of marriage is one of those sins that destroys the family unit. Satan hates what God has ordained. He's doing all he can to destroy (as he does so well) the families that God has put together.

I like what Joshua said, "Choose you this day whom you will serve, as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." In doing so, we fight against the wiles of the devil and his scheming ways against the family. Sex was meant for a man and woman within the confines of marriage. Anything else serves only to bring harm and destuction. One only has to look around to see this is true.

Right on KFC !

That reply or statement is right on point. Wisdom is being shared here whether we want to accept it or not. the Word speaks for itself. I'm enjoying the discussion on these controversial subjects. You can rest assure that more will follow.

Peace !