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Reply to Is the party over? in Democrat JoeUser Forums

Psikotik: Actually, it was an interesting problem for the Democrats what Moore had done. If you "disown" the film, then you deny the base because Flint, Michigan is a very real problem and Kerry won Michigan. I think that they should have done MORE (pun intended) by showing footage of Flint, Gary, Indiana, etc. and asked the question: Better off now than 4 years ago? That would have made the point. The truth is, IMO, Democrats were too ni

Reply to Is the party over? in Democrat JoeUser Forums

Psikotik: First, the Democratic Party doesn't sponsor or control Michael Moore. Second, the election was not about Kerry, it was about Bush. 78% of the voters decided before the debates whom they would vote for so everything done in the debates was essentially ignored. This was an election where the voter said either "I love" or "I hate" the President and whomever the Democratic Party ran would be villified as immoral and mean-spi

Reply to ABC affiliates refusing to show 'Saving Private Ryan' in Current Events JoeUser Forums

historyishere: So in Detroit where the 11 P.M. news features stories more violent than most of the battles in World War II, we can't show movies memorializing the sacrifice of the "greatest generation"? I say censor the news and show the movie!

Reply to Liberal Stink Tank in Politics JoeUser Forums

Steven: Well spake, sir. Good to see you hanging in there when everything is falling apart around us. Opportunities for social commentary will be available for the foreseeable future!

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

Daiwa: Well, let me try to frame this another way. When Clinton was President, even though he was immoral, how often did CNN talk to Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson about it? You see, who you interview is just as important as what you ask. So, in the 90's the media played the game as if Clinton's immorality was not so important but a coverup of it was. For Bush, the frame is to look the other way when it comes to how right the Bush admini

Reply to Told You So in Politics JoeUser Forums

Dr. Guy: Well, I'm not for communism but what does that have to do with it? Chomsky isn't paid by the government either. Hager on the other hand... Gonzales on the other hand...

Reply to Cameron Diaz Democrat Outburst in Current Events JoeUser Forums

hitparade: I also feel you should respect a person's privacy. I was in an out of the way mall once and Isaiah Thomas, then a big basketball star walked by me with his 2 kids. He knew I knew who he was and was tensing for the "autograph" session. I winked at him to let him know there would be no such scene including me. The line between the public and personal is very poorly defined, but I have always thought that when someone is

Reply to How Spiritual Are You? in Misc JoeUser Forums

iamheather: Religion has to do with the practice of faith as expressed in an institutional or semi-institutional sense. Spirituality is a means of interpreting the world through a set of precepts like faith. So, yes, you can be very spiritual and not religious. I scored 16 but I see God everywhere. Even where evil occurs, we cannot eliminate God from our views if we are spiritual. That doesn't mean God doesn't want us to think but rather

Reply to Interesting Info on Alberto Gonzales in Politics JoeUser Forums

d3: Well, this is your chance to make a case for the guy and all I hear is that you want "instant replay" to prove that you're right. Hmmm.... you don't have to do anything but bleedingheat, who did provide something for consideration is doing a smear? I guess that's your way of conciliation between left and right......

Reply to Told You So in Politics JoeUser Forums

Psikotik: The main message that Falwell sends is that the "political capital" they raised in electing W should be spent on taking the country as close to a theocracy as they can. I know many will not agree with me but once these movements get mobilized bad things happen. Today for example, W appointed a board on Women's Health Issues that is going to be chaired by Dr. W. David Hager who says in one of his books that women should deal with pr

Reply to Interesting Info on Alberto Gonzales in Politics JoeUser Forums

bleedingheartliberal: I think it is the first of many signs that the White House is not going to move towards any kind of conciliatory "healing" with the Democrats. There were many qualified individuals for this post that might have done both a good job and not have represented the narrow kind of views that Gonzalez does. Conservatives will say this is the perfect appointment because W appointed him so he must be good. But instead

Reply to You Decide--an Interactive LlamaLog Entry! in Politics JoeUser Forums

Llamalamp: I would say that you shouldn't confine yourself to any label. What is the point? I get e-mail from both parties and do as much research on all topics as possible. Depending on a given issue, I "lean" but don't adopt anyone's posture. I also don't get caught up in the "personality" mischief as no one can truly know a candidate simply by labels. So, I have friends and enemies across the political, economic, and social spectrum.

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

Daiwa: News content is "framed" by the networks. So, if you report on Christians supporting Bush then you suggest that any Supreme Court nominee has to be against Rowe-Wade. If you, a conservative, see the report, you think they are bashing the right. If a liberal sees it, they see media bias against a "woman's right to choose." So, yes, I do believe that rather than talk about voting irregularities that might anger the White

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

dabe: I posted. It would appear we got the state surrounded, hehehe.

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

Journey on, Dabe! BTW: I am 52 11/12 along on mine, been around most of the U.S. and Canada, England, still looking to put together a better understanding of what this life thing is all about!

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

drmiler: Well, they don't think fuss about the voting is going to amount to anything. You think the media is about bias, but really, it's about advertising and selling commercial time. So a network that would make a big deal of the voting "situation" and then realized nothing is happening would make a commercial suicide. The bias issue therefore plays to the White House's favor.

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

dabe: Well, I for one (a real "freedom of the speech" advocate) believe that it's ok to rave as long as you let your reader know what you're doing so that they consider the emotional release as the goal and not the people whom might be hurt be the words. We all have our moments and I am not immune to the frustrations presented. As for the press, the problem has become that the way the "argument (debate) is framed." If you present

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

T B: You're correct when you say that moderates weren't calling for extreme measures. But historically, it is the moderates that make those kinds of moves because extremists stay and fight, moderates slip away under cover of darkness because the situation becomes so vitriolic that they can't stand either side. I think this is a rift that will be very difficult to close because so many believe that the world is turned upside down. I

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

cinchel: Thanks for the links! Good to see someone is doing the research!

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

drmiler: I would suggest that the reason that the main links people are giving are not mainstream media is that the mainstream media has too much to lose by angering the White House. You might think this is silly but there is a real growing feeling that the media, except for obvious opinion shows (Capital Gang on Saturday night had a "suggestion" of this) that if you anger the White House, they act to exclude you from stories.

Reply to Bush Illegally Steals Another Election, This Time Goes Hi-Tech in Ohio & Florida in Politics JoeUser Forums

terpfan1980: The point of the article is that voting abuses may have occured and here are some links to those reports who suggest it. landen81 does this in support of his title and that's the extent of it. That's totally legitimate and your links are legitimate also but should be in their own blog IMO. I'm just saying the blog is fine and take or leave the "content" as you will. Nothing wrong with the debate, is there?

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

Daiwa: The reports I have read site blackboxvoting.org (different than .com btw) as sponsoring the FOIA requests pursuiant to legal action should the requests show voting fraud such as the one district (as reported on Drudge where over 4000 votes went for Bush in a district in Ohio where only 600 were registered, according to what I heard). Just a disclaimer: I do not work or represent the Democratic Party nor any organization purs

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

drmiler: Doesn't happen often (that we agree), but if someone you encouraged dissed you for encouraging them to stay then you have my appreciation for the effort and apologies for the the response.

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

Myrrander: As I said, there are attempts under way, with or without our support. I didn't say I supported the effort, only that they are under way. I understand your concerns but the fight will occur whether we would vote for it or not.

Reply to Furthering the Politics of Hate in Politics JoeUser Forums

iamheather: It is pointless to tell anyone to leave the country. If someone feels so strongly they should leave the U.S., your "encouragement" (which is interpreted by them as hate and therefore, wrong) won't make any difference. However, encouraging them to stay, be part of the system, make a difference by their involvement, might!