Magically gay

I think it is now official. There can be no denying it. Just look at Hollywood and the media and it should be obvious.

Being homosexual confers upon you magical, mystical powers.

Homosexuality is the instant tool to elevate something from the blasé to the avant-garde. Take, for instance, tonight's Golden Globe awards. One of the front-runners in numerous categories is the acclaimed movie "Brokeback Mountain". Now, I haven't seen this movie, but I do know that every single time it was mentioned on CNN this morning it was touted as "the critically acclaimed movie about two gay cowboys". Now, take that same story, make one of the characters a woman (but leave everything else the same-they become close, part ways, each start their own families, but continue to struggle with their relationship) and I guarantee, the movie would flop.

Ah, but the gayness. That is the ticket right there.

Look elsewhere. I have only watched a few episodes of "Will and Grace", and found it pretty tedious and often unfunny. But some of the characters are homosexual! And so suddenly, a pedestrian show becomes a hot ticket. I promise you, no one this side of the Atlantic would have any idea who tATu was were it not for the suggestion of homo-eroticism in the group.

And so, I suggest to some of Hollywood's pre-eminent directors that they go back and make a few changes in some of their movies. The outpouring of love from the media and from critics will surely take these movies to new levels.

Peter Jackson - We all know "King Kong" was expensive, huge and over the top. However, it hasn't done nearly as well in the theaters as was expected or hoped. So, make the gorilla gay! Have Kong fall hopelessly in love with Jack Black's character, and carry him up to the top of the Empire State Building. Instant winner.

George Lucas - Imagine, on the scorched landscape of Mustafar, a grief stricken Obi-Wan yells out to Anakin "You were my lover!" rather than "You were my brother!". Throw in a subplot of a sordid love affair between the Jedi Knight and Master. Critics would fawn, the media would love it, and suddenly Lucas becomes, once again, one of the most visionary directors in Hollywood.

The list could go on and on. The media moguls continue to sensationalize homosexuality and the more vocal gay advocates press this mystical ability to the max. But I can't help but think that somewhere there are average, run-of-the-mill people, who happen to be homosexual, who are shaking their heads in frustration at the whole thing. After all, just as many of us who are heterosexual do not define ourselves by our sexuality, I have to believe there are many homosexual people who are the same. It isn't who they are, but simply a part of their lives.

But don't tell Hollywood. That makes being gay so much less sexy.

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I have seen Wil and Grace a few times.  I love Karen Walker!  She is just so mean and evil!  I like that in women.

But as to your premise, yes that would garner a lot more awards, but it would not garner a greater audience.  Critically aclaimed movies are the way they like to tweak our noses as in "You are too stupid and boorish to understand culture!".

I sure am.  I go to the movies for entertainment, not to have your culture rammed down my throat.

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I was thinking about this the other day.  It seems as if gay people are defined by their sexuality.  Hetrosexuals are just regular people, I mean you don't hear the media proclaiming 'this new comedy about straight people is just fabulous' very often, do you?  No, it's 'that comedy about gays is just so funny!'.

I often wonder what the world would be like if we all were defined by our sexual preference.  We'd be introduced not as Sandra or Derek, but 'Sandra who prefers the missionary' or Derek who' likes it doggy-style'. 

The one thing that gets on my nerves is the sector of gay people who have to be in your face about their sexual prefence.  I'm never given a chance to know the person behind the homosexuality; they're too busy shouting to the world (either vocally or by their actions) that they're gay to make any kind of friendships or forge any relationships with people who don't share their sexual inclination.

I'd like to get to know the PERSON, not the sexual identity.

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'Now, I haven't seen this movie'

Are you really complaining about a film you haven't seen, or could it just be how the media represents it?
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or could it just be how the media represents it?


Um, that was the entire point of the article: how the media represents anything with homosexuals in it.
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'Um, that was the entire point of the article: how the media represents anything with homosexuals in it.'
Fair enough; but in that case, why do you target Hollywood in your closing line?
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Fair enough; but in that case, why do you target Hollywood in your closing line?

Because they are buying the line?  He said "dont tell hollywood", not "stop hollywood from doing it".

Reply #7 Top
Very poignant article, BlueDev, I generally agree.
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I often wondered why all the fuss was made about 'Will & Grace' myself, aside from the gay characters. My wife is a fan of the show and while I don't find it particularly funny most of the time, I too enjoy the Karen Walker character. She is so good at being such a bitch.

IMHO if the movie is a well written, well directed and well acted then give a damn whether the characters are straight, gay or hermaphrodites. But the media loves to play these things up, sensationalising sexuality and turning from something natural into something 'newsworthy'.
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I too enjoy the Karen Walker character. She is so good at being such a bitch.

Does this mean I am redeemed for liking Kenny G?

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Fair enough; but in that case, why do you target Hollywood in your closing line?


How is Hollywood not a significant part of the media? Hollywoood made and marketed "Brokeback Mountain" (and other movies with homosexual characters) with the specific spin that it is a drama about "gay cowboys". Hollywood sensationalizes homosexuality as bad (or worse) than any other media outlet.

Dr. Guy:

But as to your premise, yes that would garner a lot more awards, but it would not garner a greater audience. Critically aclaimed movies are the way they like to tweak our noses as in "You are too stupid and boorish to understand culture!".


True, you probably have a point. Though, depending on the film or series, I do think the gay factor does attract a larger audience.

Dharma:

It seems as if gay people are defined by their sexuality. Hetrosexuals are just regular people, I mean you don't hear the media proclaiming 'this new comedy about straight people is just fabulous' very often, do you? No, it's 'that comedy about gays is just so funny!'.


Exactly! I can't help but think there is a silent majority of homosexual people who find this irritating at the very least. I am sure they just want to live without being labeled with everything they do.
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Very poignant article, BlueDev, I generally agree.


Thanks Deference.

Maso:
IMHO if the movie is a well written, well directed and well acted then give a damn whether the characters are straight, gay or hermaphrodites.


Yup. I think it is ridiculous the way things get labeled based on some small aspect of the movie.
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Reminds me of Spike Lee's dispargement of the Mystical Magical Negro. you know, The Green Mile and The Legend of Bagger Vance kinda thing. I think this is just a new twist on that same theme maybe.
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When the "buzz" about this movie first started, I was talking to someone about it. He asked me if I planned on seeing it. When I told him "I doubt it", he asked, "why, I thought you liked westerns". He then accused me of being homophobic because I would probably go see it if it was "just a western."

Ok, nevermind that it's rated R (for sexual content) and I generally don't go to those movies. Nevermind that the key characters are gay (It never seemed to bother me that Jodi (on SOAP), or "George" on "My Best Friend's Wedding were prominant gay characters). But the movie ISN'T A WESTERN!

Apparently, the genre of "Western" has been redefined to pretty much "anything where the characters wear cowboy hats". Westerns are set in the last half of the 1800s, and take place anywhere in the world where Cowboys plied their trade (usually in the U.S., but there are some great "Westerns" that take place in the Australian Outback and parts of Europe (If anyone knows of any good ones that take place anywhere else, let me know!).

Sorry folks but two sheep workers coming to grips with their sexuality in 1963 doesn't qualify. I guess we should consider "The Cowboy Way", "The Electric Horseman" or "Urban Cowboy" "westerns".

The film might be the best film of the year, it may have the best writing, greatest acting and most powerful story of our time. If it does, then let the film stand on its own. If not, then all the "if you don't see it your a homophobe" "buzz" is nothing more than a way to "guilt" people into seeing it.
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Reminds me of Spike Lee's dispargement of the Mystical Magical Negro. you know, The Green Mile and The Legend of Bagger Vance kinda thing. I think this is just a new twist on that same theme maybe.


You are probably right Shovelheat.

The film might be the best film of the year, it may have the best writing, greatest acting and most powerful story of our time. If it does, then let the film stand on its own. If not, then all the "if you don't see it your a homophobe" "buzz" is nothing more than a way to "guilt" people into seeing it.


Bingo.
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Apparently, the genre of "Western" has been redefined to pretty much "anything where the characters wear cowboy hats".

That is a good point!  It is not a western.  It is a cowboy movie!  Ted gets a cookie!

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Does this mean I am redeemed for liking Kenny G?


Sorry Doc, some things are just irredeemable

I think it is ridiculous the way things get labeled


As I said earlier on a blog of Dr. Guys, the whole compartmentalising issue (or pigeon-holing) is just ridiculous. When are we going to be judged for who we are, as people, rather than for our race, religion, sexual inclinations, politics or the f*%king shoes we wear... It is crazy, I tells ya, crazy...
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Sorry Doc, some things are just irredeemable

Damn!  Ok, if you say so! {grumble}{Grumble}{grumble}

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'He said "dont tell hollywood", not "stop hollywood from doing it".'
Ah, you just can't help yourself from piping up for the organ grinders, can you Doc?
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I heard that Brokeback Mountain one 4 Golden Globe Awards, including "Best Drama". I wonder if it would even have been considered for 1 if it wasn't for the "gay" theme? In fact, I'm trying to remember the last "cowboy" film that did very well in the Golden Globes... Clint Eastwood's "Unforgiven" comes to mind, and that win was based more on the "buzz" than the film itself also.
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umm, dude, you kinda overstate the case just a wee little bit. after all, if we're talking about the show will and grace ... will's character is generally *not* defined by his gayness. instead, jack the flaming queen from hell, *is* defined by his gayness and he's largely made fun of because of it.

putting gay characters in a movie or tv show isn't going to "magically save" it. look what happened to the ellen sitcom after the character came out. a crummy show got even worse and was cancelled. look at how long the sitcom friends dragged on ... without any minorities of the sexual or colorful varieties.

but, as someone who happens to be gay (and doesn't define my life by sex), it is nice to see some shows that have gay characters. do i watch will and grace religiously because there are gay characters? no ... but i don't find it any more pedestrian than most of the stuff on television. it's one of the funnier shows i've seen -- because it speaks to things i've seen my friends do or say.

i wouldn't go see king kong in the theatres because it looks dumb. frankly, a gay king kong would look even more stupid ... unless he was wearing a cowboy hat and chaps ... then it might be worth going to see.
(that's a joke)

on the other hand, i'm looking forward to seeing brokeback mountain because it's a real story to me. same reason i went to see philedelphia and long time companion ... same reason i went to see the re-release of the original star wars movies ... and the new star wars movies (even if lucas' writing got even WORSE over the intervening years) ... same reason i went to see 8 mile. the stories caught my interest ... not because of anyone's sexuality ... the story was compelling to me.

it's not magic to capture a chunk of the population's attention (whether that chunk of the population is the media or us joeuser types), it's just lucky to be tapped into something that catches our interest.
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piping up for the organ grinders

That is kind of condescending dont you think?

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Wanna hear something great? Apparently this year is unofficially the "Year of the Gay" in Hollow-wood. From today's Washington Post:

The cowboy romance "Brokeback Mountain" led the Golden Globes on Monday with four prizes, including best dramatic film and the directing honor for Ang Lee.

It was a triumphant night for films dealing with homosexuality and transsexuality. Along with the victories for "Brokeback Mountain," acting honors went to Felicity Huffman in a gender-bending role as a man preparing for sex-change surgery in "Transamerica" and Philip Seymour Hoffman as gay author Truman Capote in "Capote."

"I know as actors our job is usually to shed our skins, but I think as people our job is to become who we really are and so I would like to salute the men and women who brave ostracism, alienation and a life lived on the margins to become who they really are," Huffman said.


But just remember: if you are upset by this, you're a homophobe. Or if you're indifferent to this, you're a homophobe.
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but, as someone who happens to be gay (and doesn't define my life by sex),

But you just did.  You said that you're 'gay'.  As in homosexual.  As in you prefer to have sex with men (or women if you're a chick).  By saying that you're gay, you yourself are defining your life by your sexual orientation.  You could have written the entire comment without telling us that you were gay and we'd never have known or even cared.  But you told, and you proved a point.

So, Brokeback mountain is a 'real' story for you because you're gay.  It's not for me, because I'm straight.  If it were a movie about straight ranch hands falling in love, would you be interested?  I'm going to hazard a guess and say that you wouldn't, because you've already stated that your interest in it is bascially because the characters are gay, the same as you. The story is 'real' to you because they share your sexual orientation (on screen, at least).  Can you not see how you're kind of making Dev's point for him?

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Or if you're indifferent to this, you're a homophobe.

You mean I cant not care? Damn!  I just dont want to give a poop!