Vista: Restart Manager is coming..

Bring your system back just like it was..

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1895276,00.asp

eWeek is reporting about a new feature in Windows Vista called Restart Manager.  Users who have notebooks may have a feature called "hibernation". Restart Manager is similar in that when the user restarts their machine due to having installed something new (a driver or whatever) your machine can come back exactly as it was.

Microsoft officials have not talked much publicly about this new feature, but Jim Allchin, the co-president of Microsoft's platform products and services division, recently told eWEEK that this is an example of just how important the reboot issue was to the Redmond-based software giant.

"If you have to reboot, then what happens is that the system, together with the applications, takes a snapshot of the state: the way things are on the screen at that very moment, and then it just updates and restarts the application, or in the case of an operating system update, it will bring the operating system back exactly where it was," Allchin said.

 

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Interesting idea....

I hope they can design it to include older (2002 - 2005) softwares, or make it easy for manufacturers to design patches to update these older versions to take advantage of this technology.

I agree with the following statement from the article:

""The operation of the hardware-software environment must evolve to more stability, less volatility in order to allow IT staff/operations/consumers to spend their time creating value for organizations."

It seems like I have a ton of software installed, and have not had the chance to explore the abilities of these programs as they pertain to me, due to always updating and trying out the updated files for functionality.

It would be great to just "drive" my machine, and enjoy the drive, instead of looking at all the gauges waiting for some issue to arise....

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I remember reading that they were pondering doing this more at the hardware level, by using an extra flash memory component to store the "state" information, so that even a cold boot wouldn't involve the hard drive at all. Instead of booting up, spinning up the hard drive, etc., the memory "state" stored on shutdown would be transferred directly to RAM.

Maybe this is a preliminary step in that direction.
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It shouldn't be that hard....Drive Image 7 can write an image of Windows from within Windows....a bit like picking yourself up by your own shoelaces...
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... how about when a device/driver crashes your system - not only after an automatic restart *if you have the blue-screen disabled* that it puts it how you had it and gives you more info than "a device/driver has caused restart..blah blah blah.. but we are unaware of what caused it" i hate those stupid messages cuz it could be anything for all i know... stupid microsoft.. that's the one thing that i absolutely 100% hate about it is that stupid message for retarded restarts.. 1/2 of which i think are just cuz the system gets stupid sometimes (sorry, just finished dealing with my bf's system which was bombarded by some crap causing mad pop-ups and everything and had to reinstall windows...long evening so am in no mood for more windows crap lol so glad i have a mac to use while i let my windows computer sit and look pretty
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It would be great to just "drive" my machine, and enjoy the drive, instead of looking at all the gauges waiting for some issue to arise.


I agree with that. I spend a lot of time resolving issues than the development that I would like to do. It sucks to have to develop on a platform that by its very nature is not stable and does not always work well with its own components. Wow it would be so nice just to sit back and ... drive.
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Anybody remember Windows 95/98? When updating certain drivers, or system files, you would get "Restarting Windows...", instead of a cold boot from the beginning which you get now with every update, no matter what it is in XP? And they call this progress?
It may not have brought you completely back where you were, but if you had a window open, or a network drive window open, it brought you right back to it.

Back with 95/98/ME, at least you got to choose what you wanted to install with the OS, you had a selection screen, then, they pack all that crap into XP, get sued by different countries for having all the software tied in...then go and make different OSes which give you the option (again) to install what you want. Now, they're coming out with 7 brands of Vista. WOW, they call that progress when all they're doing is going back to a past most of the common users have forgotten about...and bringing it forward again.

"If you have to reboot, then what happens is that the system, together with the applications, takes a snapshot of the state: the way things are on the screen at that very moment, and then it just updates and restarts the application, or in the case of an operating system update, it will bring the operating system back exactly where it was,"

Pointless, seeing as we all get "please make sure you have no other running programs while installing...blah blah blah" Most of us update system drivers without apps being open anyways, and alot of programs that have internal update features don't usually require a restart of the program.

This isn't news...well, except to point out how MS thinks of it's computer users.
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It seems like I have a ton of software installed, and have not had the chance to explore the abilities of these programs as they pertain to me, due to always updating and trying out the updated files for functionality.

It would be great to just "drive" my machine, and enjoy the drive, instead of looking at all the gauges waiting for some issue to arise....



Hence the reason some people choose to use Linux or something besides Windows.