"Holiday" Trees-Gah!

from JoeUser Forums

I was recently made aware of the new PC movement to call Christmas trees "Holiday" trees.  Oh come on!  You don't have to be christian to call it a Christmas tree! 

I personally wouldn't buy a "holiday" tree or "holiday tree ornaments".  Why are Americans bent on trying to change such well established traditions?  I find it interesting that a lot of these people leading this movement are liberal whackos who are always pointing at how much better Europeans do things.  Well guess what, Europe has kept traditions that are older than our country.  Most of our oldest traditions come from Europe.  Why would you want to wipe them out?

I think it is incredibly sad that anyone have to think twice about wishing someone a Merry Christmas.  So what if you aren't Christian.  You can honor the christian holiday just like you are expecting your faith or lack there of to be honored.  What is so bad about a holiday based on wishes of peace on Earth and good will toward man?

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

Well, it's not like Christmas is actually Christ's birthday, anyway.  I think I wrote an article on that last year....I think I'll dig it up....

ahhhh...hear it is:  http://karmagirl.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=36527

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Before there was political correctness, I babysat for a Jewish Rabbi (Conservative) who had a christmas tree.  They did not celebrate Christ's birth naturally, but did celebrate the meaning of christmas.  Peace on Earth and Goodwill to man.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

Well, it's not like Christmas is actually Christ's birthday, anyway.


So does that mean you support creating new "holiday" traditions to replace the arbitrary Christmas traditions?
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
It funny, while I've known many people who don't celebrate Christmas, I have yet to meet any who are offended by the cultural traditions of Christmas.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
They did not celebrate Christ's birth naturally, but did celebrate the meaning of christmas. Peace on Earth and Goodwill to man.


Could anything but good come from that?
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
I don't really care how or when our Christmas traditions started. I know that my whole life and the lives of my parents, grandparents and probably great parents were filled with Christmas traditions such as Christmas trees, Christmas carols and Christmas foods. My kids love the traditions and I look forward to passing them on to my grandchildren. I take offense to anyone trying to do away with that special part of my life.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
I believe that, while Christmas may have a Christian connection (its origins, are, of course, pagan), it has become a very "American" holiday, being both a secular AND a religious holiday. The theme of "Peace on Earth, Goodwill to Man" has been embraced for well over a century by Christians and nonChristians alike throughout America and western Europe. Though secularists often prefer the abbreviated "XMas" (which doesn't offend me in the least), most still celebrate the holiday (John Lennon wasn't what most would consider a practicing Christian when he wrote the song "Happy Christmas (war is Over)", after all.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Jill, you just reminded me of an article I wrote around this time last year on the topic of PC-izing Christmas and all the hub-bub around removing it from public display.

http://zoomba.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=43484
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'll tell you what this is... Some liberal whack job is sitiing around with nothing to do. So, he decides he is going to protect our rights by taking them away.

I don't care if they change any of it. I'll still call it Christmas until I draw my last breath.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
I don't care if they change any of it. I'll still call it Christmas until I draw my last breath.


I'm with you jj.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Here's an interesting story on the subject

Link

It's a Christmas tree plain and simple. You don't like it, no one is forcing you to put one up. Or better yet, call your tree whatever the hell you want.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top

So does that mean you support creating new "holiday" traditions to replace the arbitrary Christmas traditions?

No.  The point is that "Christmas" only has religious meaning by force.  The act of celebrating the season predates the "Christian" holiday.  It matters not what it is called, the celebration is the same.

Christmas has no religious context to it in my house (though we still call it "Christmas").  I realized the other day that my daughter is completely void of any real Christian knowledge.  As I was putting a Santa hat on my Buddha statue that sits on my mantel, my husband made some sort of Christian based comment (always sarcastic since he himself would burst into flames if he stepped into a church).  I responded with: "it's not like it's actually Christ's Birthday, anyway".  My daughter got a funny look on her face and said: "Who is Christ?"  I said: "You know.....Jesus Christ".  She then winced her face and said: "That's a bad word Dad uses..."   I guess I might have to work on that one........

Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
We study every winter holiday in my class, though ALL of my students both last year and this year are all Christmas-celebrators. I just wish we could call it a "Christmas party" instead of a "winter party" Bah humbug. lol
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

Could anything but good come from that?

No, not from good people

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
I just wish we could call it a "Christmas party" instead of a "winter party"


That's annoying isn't it.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

I just wish we could call it a "Christmas party" instead of a "winter party"

I live in a small town and everything is still "Christmas".  As far as I know, nobody has complained.  All the elementary kids also participate in our "Christmas in the Village" parade and make all sorts of Christmas stuff in school.  They also have a Senior Citizens Christmas lunch with the kids.  It seems like there are a lot of adults that take all the fun out of being a kid.  I also don't know what would be so wrong in having "Christmas" celebrations as a way of learning about the national holiday.   I also think it's funny that people will take the time off from work without complaint even if they don't celebrate "Christmas".

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top






Our CHRISTMAS tree this year.

Don't look at the room...its the smallest one in the house and has received no attention since we moved in...which I will correct after the Holy day.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Beautiful tree there, Tova!

We also have to refer to our Christmas party as our "Winter" party...
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Absolutely beautiful Christmas tree Tova! Thanks so much for sharing it. I am having a Christmas tree trimming party on Saturday. Our tree is 12 feet so I just don't want to handle it by myself this year. Good excuse to share some Christmas cheer with some close friends too.

I love the train around the tree too!