Lilith - the first feminist?

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Did you know that according to Gnostic and Jewish tradition, Eve was NOT Adam's first mate?

According to Haggadah, a book of oral legend usually associated with the Talmud, Lilith was the first woman.

She was created from dust, the same as Adam, but she only remained with him a short time.  Why?

Because she insisted upon enjoying full equality with him, saying that she had a right to do so because she was created the same way as he was.

Adam, apparently, didn't like it.  Neither did Lilith....and she pronouced the 'Ineffable Name', flew into the air away from Adam, and vanished.

Adam complained to God that she'd split on him, so God said he'd make Adam another chick to keep him company. God pondered on what part of Adam's body to use to create Eve, the new woman. 

He didn't want to use his head because He was afraid she'd be prideful, and he didn't want to use his eye because that would make her wanton-eyed.  Ears were no good because that'd make her an eavesdropper, the neck would make her insolent, the mouth would, obviously make her a tattler, the heart would give her an envious disposition, the hand would make her a meddler and the foot would cause her to be a gadabout. 

He wanted to form her from a chaste part of the body....so he chose a rib.  As he was forming her, he kept repeating "be chaste! Be chaste!"......but despite his great caution, woman was created with all the faults God tried to avoid.

 

Huh.  I wonder what Adam would make of today's modern women.  He'd probably curse us and call us all daughters of Lilith.

I personally think she had the right idea when she split.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
lilith was prolly the first lezzie! hahahahahahahahahah
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
As he was forming her, he kept repeating "be chaste! Be chaste!"......


And Eve thought God was saying "be chased! Be chased!" ... And men have been chasing after them ever since.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

And Eve thought God was saying "be chased! Be chased!" ... And men have been chasing after them ever since.

That may be true....

lilith was prolly the first lezzie! hahahahahahahahahah

I hoped you'd see this, MM. I thought about you when I was reading it because of your article about Lilith a few weeks back.

Glad you got a laugh out of it!

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
White Wolf and many others have used this as a point of departure for many works of fiction...
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Looking around today, I would say there are more daughters of Lilith than Eve!
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

White Wolf and many others have used this as a point of departure for many works of fiction

Yes, they have.  I'm finding it all very interseting, actually.  There's a lot about the creation of the world...the god we know, whilst he's credited for creating the world, used a part of the god of light's being to do so.  Which is why we humans always try to find our way back to the light....so we can return to that from which we were made.

I would say there are more daughters of Lilith than Eve!

Me too!  I know I'm a daughter of Lillith!

I was telling Dave about this last night - he agreed that even the ancient cultures had women and their ways pretty much pegged.

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
This legend makes for good fiction. Lucifer (a graphic novel, based off a Sandman story) uses damn near every legend ever recorded, and the plight of the Lilim is a major plot point since Lucifer's girlfriend/servant is their leader.

The Life of Riley used a lot of this too, though the webcomic is kinda defunct now.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Coincidental selection--since I have written a fantasy novel [unpublished] about Lilith and Eve.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
she pronouced the 'Ineffable Name', flew into the air away from Adam, and vanished.


i had a friend who had a similiar occurance with a woman he was close to. one day she sat on something sharp and jetted around the room several times growing smaller and smaller before flying outta window and disappearing forever into a dumpster.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
just for the record, he claims the ineffable name sounded like pffffffffffsssssssssssssstttttttttttttt.