Woman helps ship off military husband, then gets fired

Some companies do their darndest to get in the news in the worst kinds of ways. As an example, how about the company that lets one of their part time employees take off a day to see her husband -- who is in the military -- shipped off to Iraq, but then fires her when she doesn't show up the day following the departure -- (reportedly) after having been told in advance by the woman that she may not have been emotionally ready to return to work until the following day.

Though the company cites "other factors" for dismissing the employee, and may be able to legally hide behind such claims (depending upon the labor laws in play in the state), it's certainly a public relations no-no.

The woman wanted time to see off her husband. She took off time without compensation leading up to the deployment date, then took off the deployment date, and went for one more day following that one, and that was apparently the straw that broke the back at the employers, and off the payroll was she.

I swear that some employers do their damndest to show what jerks they can be to military families. I can't say with absolutely certainty this is one of those companies, because the company wouldn't elaborate on those "other factors" for the dismissal (actually they probably can't because of labor laws, potentials for law suits, etc.).

Anyway, original article follows, from MSNBC. Clipped, headline is linked.





Woman sees husband off to war, gets fired

Part-time receptionist missed a day of work; employer cites other factors

CALEDONIA, Mich. - A woman who took an unpaid leave of absence from work to see her husband off to war has been fired after failing to show up for her part-time receptionist job the day following his departure.
“It was a shock,” said Suzette Boler, a 40-year-old mother of three and grandmother of three. “I was hurt. I felt abandoned by people I thought cared for me. I sat down on the floor and cried for probably two hours.”
Officials at her former workplace, Benefit Management Administrators Inc., confirmed that Boler was dismissed when she didn’t report to work the day after she said goodbye to her husband of 22 years.
“We gave her sufficient time to get back to work,” Clark Galloway, vice president of operations for Benefit Management, told The Grand Rapids Press for a story published Wednesday.
He added that other factors were involved in the decision but he declined to elaborate.

Husband headed off to Iraq
On Oct. 16, Boler went with her husband, Army Spc. Jerry Boler, 45, to an Indianapolis-area airfield, where he and others in his National Guard unit gathered to be transported to Fort Dix, N.J. The unit soon will be deployed to Iraq, where he will help guard convoys from insurgent attacks.
Suzette Boler had received permission to take off work the week leading up to her husband’s departure. As a part-time employee at Benefit Management, she did not receive vacation pay and was not compensated for her time off.
When Boler returned home from Indiana on the night of Oct. 16, a few hours after leaving her husband at the airfield, she said she felt drained by the emotional ordeal.



... more at linked article (please see original article for complete story)
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Reply #1 Top
despicable, that's all I have to say.
Reply #2 Top
How do you know it's despicable?

The article is clear that you're not getting the full story. Specifically, it leaves out the employer's side of the story.

Also, she didn't show up to work the day after her husband left? How far did she go to ship him off, that she couldn't be back at work the next day?

It kinda seems like she got approved for some time off, and then took an extra day she wasn't approved for. If the "other factors" turn out to be "has a history of blowing off work without making proper arrangements", then I have no problem with what the employer did.
Reply #3 Top
Given the source (MSNBC), I guess I am going to side with Stute until we know more.  On the facts given, it looks bad.  Maybe if Fox gets it we can get some unbiased reporting tho.  MSNBC is the absolute worst!
Reply #4 Top
Also, she didn't show up to work the day after her husband left? How far did she go to ship him off, that she couldn't be back at work the next day?


I can't speak for her, but I was absolutely, can't-get-out-of-bed distraught the day after my husband left. I wasn't good for anything that day.
Reply #5 Top
That is really sucky, TW. I can understand feeling that way. I've taken time off from work for similar reasons more than once, myself.

I just can't shake the feeling that in this particular story, "other factors" is given too little weight and "distraught the next day" too much.

Terpfan figures that since firing her is such bad PR, the employer must be stupid. I'd like to give equal consideration to the possibility that the employee forced their hand.
Reply #6 Top
Just for the record, spouses of active combat members should get a little extra slack cut to them before firing. that's my opinion and it ain't a gonna change.
Reply #7 Top
Stutefish - my thinking is that if there were other factors involved, those factors would have been involved (and could have been cited) a month later, or even two months later.

Perhaps those other factors were shoddy work that was caused by emotional distress leading up to her husband's deployment. Who knows. I see it more that the company took advantage of the unexcused (but apparently forewarned) absence (though I'd also note she was on leave without pay for all of the time she took off) and these unstated, but cited "other factors" to let the women go.

Again, poor public relations move at the least. Cold and heartless is also a possibility.

If her work was not satisfactory, perhaps it was because of the impending deployment. If so, then she could possibly claim she was discriminated against, if the company ever gave their side of the story.

In not giving it's side of the story though, they get to look like bad guys who stupidly fired someone that was upset because their spouse was being shipped off to a war zone.
Reply #8 Top
I was absolutely, can't-get-out-of-bed distraught the day after my husband left. I wasn't good for anything that day.


I've been through too many deployments to count, and I always feel that way the day after.
Reply #9 Top

Also, she didn't show up to work the day after her husband left? How far did she go to ship him off, that she couldn't be back at work the next day?


According to the byline, she started in Caledonia, Michigan and had to go to an airfield "In the vicinity of Indianapolis (Indiana). Mapquest puts that at approximately 300 miles, which fits with the article saying that she arrived home "a few hours after leaving her husband at the airfield."


It kinda seems like she got approved for some time off, and then took an extra day she wasn't approved for. If the "other factors" turn out to be "has a history of blowing off work without making proper arrangements", then I have no problem with what the employer did.

According to the full article, "I'll be out the 16th; I'll try to be in on the 17th, but if not, will definitely be in on the 18th" was a request/warning that the company accepted. To then turn around and say "We decided while you were out on the 16th that you needed to be in on the 17th" is rude; to make her job dependent upon it is nasty; and to not tell her that her job depends on it is vile.
Reply #10 Top

Just for the record, spouses of active combat members should get a little extra slack cut to them before firing. that's my opinion and it ain't a gonna change.

I totally agree, and as I said, on the face of it, I am outraged.  But before I pick up my pitchfork, I would like to hear the whole case.

Reply #11 Top

Again, poor public relations move at the least. Cold and heartless is also a possibility.

That at the very least.

Reply #12 Top
Yeah, I stand corrected. Sucky thing to do.
Reply #13 Top
Gotta wonder, why pick this very moment to fire her if they believed she was not doing so good? It's is definitely bad PR and a very stupid move. Makes no sense except looking for a good opportunity but instead chose the wrong one. Should have been better if they waited for her to not dot her i's and cross her t's. Then maybe it wouldn't look so bad.
Reply #14 Top
If she said in advance I might not be in on the 18th and then they use that as the reason she was fired was at the best foolish, at the worst a low blow. A mother of three who's husband went off to fight the war and then the Vice President to site "We gave her sufficient time off" They didn't pay for her time off, what is their issue with her taking an extra day off from a part-time position?
Reply #15 Top
If she said in advance I might not be in on the 18th and then they use that as the reason she was fired was at the best foolish, at the worst a low blow. A mother of three who's husband went off to fight the war and then the Vice President to site "We gave her sufficient time off" They didn't pay for her time off, what is their issue with her taking an extra day off from a part-time position?
Reply #16 Top
Apparently this company doesn't have a family leave policy, which I thought was a federal mandate. Wouldn't it apply under the "other family situation/emergency" category? I don't suppose the ACLU or EEOC will get involved in a wrongful termination suit here?
Reply #17 Top
Apparently this company doesn't have a family leave policy, which I thought was a federal mandate. Wouldn't it apply under the "other family situation/emergency" category? I don't suppose the ACLU or EEOC will get involved in a wrongful termination suit here?
Reply #18 Top

Family Leave, depending on the state, only applies to full time/permanent employees.  This woman was apparently neither.

This was an incredibly bad thing for the company to do, whether or not they were legally justified.

Cheers

Reply #19 Top
I can tell you first hand that this is the fourth time in 2 years that they have let someone go suddenly, unexpectedly, and with no prior disciplinary action or 'due process'. They just get it in their mind that they don't like something or someone and then escort them out the door. There is no paper trail of problems or reprimands with the employees that they let go and no warning prior to the firing. The company is family run and they brag about their Christian morals and ethics which makes the pattern of sudden firings all the more reprehensible. There is a process to go through with problem employees and they do not go through this, or any, process at all. Notice one thing about this situation and the follow-up interviews. Once BMA is questioned about the termination reasons that they themselves wrote on her dismissal form, they suddenly start coming up with a host of other alleged infractions (all unsubstantiated and undocumented). True, BMA is an 'at will' employer. But there are certain ethical and moral procedures that need to be followed prior to the harsh and bitter action of firing someone.
Reply #20 Top
I can tell you first hand that this is the fourth time in 2 years that they have let someone go suddenly, unexpectedly, and with no prior disciplinary action or 'due process'. They just get it in their mind that they don't like something or someone and then escort them out the door. There is no paper trail of problems or reprimands with the employees that they let go and no warning prior to the firing. The company is family run and they brag about their Christian morals and ethics which makes the pattern of sudden firings all the more reprehensible. There is a process to go through with problem employees and they do not go through this, or any, process at all. Notice one thing about this situation and the follow-up interviews. Once BMA is questioned about the termination reasons that they themselves wrote on her dismissal form, they suddenly start coming up with a host of other alleged infractions (all unsubstantiated and undocumented). True, BMA is an 'at will' employer. But there are certain ethical and moral procedures that need to be followed prior to the harsh and bitter action of firing someone.
Reply #21 Top

Apparently this company doesn't have a family leave policy, which I thought was a federal mandate.

Only for companies that have 15 employees or more.  And this still would not qualify.

Reply #22 Top

Reply By: Caledonian(Anonymous User)

If what you say is true, then Christian they are not, and the article is kind to them.  Thanks for the inside info.

Reply #23 Top
You are welcome. I need to point out here that I do not know this lady personally so I cannot comment on the accuracy of any of the information being reported except for what was listed on her termination letter. My whole point is that there is a right and a wrong way to do things. This was wrong and the other three firings were equally as wrong based on moral and ethical standards.
Reply #24 Top

You are welcome. I need to point out here that I do not know this lady personally so I cannot comment on the accuracy of any of the information being reported except for what was listed on her termination letter. My whole point is that there is a right and a wrong way to do things. This was wrong and the other three firings were equally as wrong based on moral and ethical standards.

I understand.  But like the saying goes, birds of a feather.  If they have a history of it, my impression is to beleive they are just following SOP, not going off on a tangent in this particular case.

They may be, but......

Reply #25 Top
I honestly believe that they are convinced in their own minds that they are not doing anything wrong. They are deluding themselves in this regard because they are recklessly affecting peoples lives and they are choosing to disregard that part of it. They do not have empathy for the pain that they are causing other people by firing them suddenly and without giving them a chance to correct whatever perceived 'wrongs' they have commited. But ther real kicker is that they truly portray themselves as caring loving people and the employees are their family. They act this way for a while, but then something clicks inside of them and a person gets on their 'bad' list.

And that's my two cents worth.

Thanks for listening, I've been wanting to vent and this is a good place to do it.