First Suicide Bomber since 9/11?
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Joel H. Hinrichs III, the OU student who blew himself up outside of an OU-KSU football game on Saturday (10/01/05) night was the first suicide bomber on US soil since 9-11. Is this the case or is it a simple* suicide?
There are many things that have come out since that bombing that are indicating that this was more than just a young man wanting to end his life. Lets look at what has been said and what those things may indicate.
First does a person wanting to commit suicide do it by blowing themselves up? No. The vast majority of suicides are done with firearms or narcotics. People just do not blow themselves up as a method of suicide. In addition if they were going to commit suicide they also do not do it in front of a stadium with 85,000 people in it. The vast majority do it in private and do not want anyone else to get hurt.
Here are a few items that I was able to find by searching and reading and watching all the news clips and articles written since Sat.
The Scene:
Why 100 yards from the stadium? Why not in the privacy of a field or some remote location. He was supposedly sitting on a bench when he “spontaneously exploded”. It is reported in several news clips and articles that he attempted to get into the game (some say twice) before he fled the stadium because security wanted to search a “backpack” he was carrying. Was he trying to get into the stadium to kill others with his bomb. Why would he later blow himself up outside the stadium? It just does not sound like a man who wants to commit suicide goes to a football game to watch it then afterwards would blow himself up. There are not a whole lot of reasons he would have tried to get into the stadium other than to cause others to be killed or injured when he blew himself up.
It is also being said in some reports that there was shrapnel used in the bomb he exploded. That would indicate to me that it was designed to injure more than just the bomber. And again if he was wanting to commit suicide, most do not want to harm others also.
The location and timing are just not right. Where is the suicide note that most people leave explaining their actions?
Then there are the reports (now by more than one person) that the bomber tried to buy a “large quantity” of ammonium nitrate. The same explosive used in the OK City bombing. Why would he try to buy a large amount if he was wanting to just blow himself up? This does not make sense.
There were other reports of bomb making equipment found in his apartment. What for? Why make more than you need if you are going to commit suicide? I would think you would make just one bomb and that would be it. Why the extra stuff?
One of the local TV News Stations (TV5) says that there are others being reported to them as “being involved”. Why others are involved in a suicide bombing? Sounds fishy to me.
It is reported in his apartment was a airplane ticket to Algiers for a future date in the name of his roommate. An attempt to escape?
And one of the most important items is his possible tie to a local mosque.
Now taken individually these items may not add up to much. But when all are taken together what do you think happened there? You need to keep an eye on this. Is this the beginning of a new type of attack on Americans in the US? I pray not, but I have to say, I think he was not just some young disgruntled man that want to take himself out. I think we have our first suicide bomber in the US since 9/11. And I think more will follow.
Links to news sources and stories used above:
http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?id=26283&siteSection=1
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/124635.php
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=8599
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/011883.php
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/124154.php
http://lonestartimes.com/2005/10/04/boomer-sooner/
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5046390/detail.html
http://www.townhall.com/blogs/c-log/MaryKatharineHam/story/2005/10/04/159384.html
There are many things that have come out since that bombing that are indicating that this was more than just a young man wanting to end his life. Lets look at what has been said and what those things may indicate.
First does a person wanting to commit suicide do it by blowing themselves up? No. The vast majority of suicides are done with firearms or narcotics. People just do not blow themselves up as a method of suicide. In addition if they were going to commit suicide they also do not do it in front of a stadium with 85,000 people in it. The vast majority do it in private and do not want anyone else to get hurt.
Here are a few items that I was able to find by searching and reading and watching all the news clips and articles written since Sat.
The Scene:
Why 100 yards from the stadium? Why not in the privacy of a field or some remote location. He was supposedly sitting on a bench when he “spontaneously exploded”. It is reported in several news clips and articles that he attempted to get into the game (some say twice) before he fled the stadium because security wanted to search a “backpack” he was carrying. Was he trying to get into the stadium to kill others with his bomb. Why would he later blow himself up outside the stadium? It just does not sound like a man who wants to commit suicide goes to a football game to watch it then afterwards would blow himself up. There are not a whole lot of reasons he would have tried to get into the stadium other than to cause others to be killed or injured when he blew himself up.
It is also being said in some reports that there was shrapnel used in the bomb he exploded. That would indicate to me that it was designed to injure more than just the bomber. And again if he was wanting to commit suicide, most do not want to harm others also.
The location and timing are just not right. Where is the suicide note that most people leave explaining their actions?
Then there are the reports (now by more than one person) that the bomber tried to buy a “large quantity” of ammonium nitrate. The same explosive used in the OK City bombing. Why would he try to buy a large amount if he was wanting to just blow himself up? This does not make sense.
There were other reports of bomb making equipment found in his apartment. What for? Why make more than you need if you are going to commit suicide? I would think you would make just one bomb and that would be it. Why the extra stuff?
One of the local TV News Stations (TV5) says that there are others being reported to them as “being involved”. Why others are involved in a suicide bombing? Sounds fishy to me.
It is reported in his apartment was a airplane ticket to Algiers for a future date in the name of his roommate. An attempt to escape?
And one of the most important items is his possible tie to a local mosque.
Now taken individually these items may not add up to much. But when all are taken together what do you think happened there? You need to keep an eye on this. Is this the beginning of a new type of attack on Americans in the US? I pray not, but I have to say, I think he was not just some young disgruntled man that want to take himself out. I think we have our first suicide bomber in the US since 9/11. And I think more will follow.
Links to news sources and stories used above:
http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?id=26283&siteSection=1
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/124635.php
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=8599
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/011883.php
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/124154.php
http://lonestartimes.com/2005/10/04/boomer-sooner/
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5046390/detail.html
http://www.townhall.com/blogs/c-log/MaryKatharineHam/story/2005/10/04/159384.html
