But I thought she was a virgin...??!!

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So, Tom Cruise has gone and knocked up katie Holmes.

Katie Holmes.  The girl who famously swore that she was a virgin....and that she'd stay a virgin until her wedding night. 

Last time I checked, you actually had to have sex in order to get pregnant....unless there's some Scientology ritual that I'm not aware of that lets a person get preggers without having intercourse.

So, she's probably not a virgin anymore.

Guess she thought being engaged was close enough, huh?

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Shhh... you are ruining our fantasies here!
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
In Scientology you are a virgin until your womb is "sanctified" by L. Ron Hubbard. ;~D
Elemental: Reforged
Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

In Scientology you are a virgin until your womb is "sanctified" by L. Ron Hubbard. ;~D

Ahh....well, that means I'm a virgin!  Yay!  Wait 'til I tell Dave...he's going to be stoked!

Shhh... you are ruining our fantasies here!

Ahem...care to explain that a little further, Greywar?

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ahh, c'mon Dharma! Maybe she just took a tub bath after him! It could happen...
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Lets us give thanx that they did not indulge in anal sex, the birth of a scientoligist LAWYER is too much for me to bear.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
birth of a scientoligist LAWYER is too much for me to bear.

That horrible image aside, that gave me the best laugh today, Mm!
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: sunwukongPosted: Wednesday, October 05, 2005birth of a scientoligist LAWYER is too much for me to bear.That horrible image aside, that gave me the best laugh today, Mm!


wonderfull!! time to time I aim for the humor of things.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm sure there's some other explaination for this other than sex. Tom Cruise? Oversexed? NEVER! Like we need another ranting idiot in the world (and I mean ranting like you think you know everything and that other's opinions don't count)!
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Oh...and let's not forget that in Biblical times (not that Scientology has anything to do with the Bible), that being engaged had the same legal status as did marriage itself... So...if we transfer that to modern times...then being engaged is as good as being married so hey baby...let's shag!
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think the key word there is "was". I "was" a virgen too. I think everytime my husband goes on a six month deployment I get to become a born again virgin after going without for so long. ha ha
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I get to become a born again virgin after going without for so long.


I knew a girl in High School who decided to abstain because she wanted her cherry to grow back. Really! I'm not lying or making that up! I never did get find out if it did.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
I made it through the wilderness......I made it through, oo oo oo............
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ahh....well, that means I'm a virgin! Yay! Wait 'til I tell Dave...he's going to be stoked!


No, that only counts for Scientologists. ;~D
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
*breathes deeply of the air of Dharma's blog*

Katie Holmes.. the chick from batman, right? I think we're all familiar with the Hollywood Phenomenon. People swear to be true, then are subjected to ungodly amounts of pressure. Most crack; that's just how it is. Hillary Duff, Mandy Moore, and maybe even Kelly Clarkson (but I'm rooting for her on this one- she's kept a good image thus far) are next in line. Remember, Lindsay Lohan (sp?) used to be the innocent type until she started traipsing about in public sans attire.

You know, I'm a daydreamer, and sometimes my celebrity daydreams include refusing things that everybody else seems to accept. But sometimes I wonder, if I was under that kind of psychological pressure, could I hold out? A question for the ages, I suppose.

Dan
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
She's still a virgin. But there's one very happy turkey baster in Cruise-land. (It was hand delivered from his publicist to her publicist.)
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

Ahh, c'mon Dharma! Maybe she just took a tub bath after him!

No, I think that they thought that standing up to have sex would prevent pregnancy. 

Lets us give thanx that they did not indulge in anal sex, the birth of a scientoligist LAWYER is too much for me to bear.

Hahahaha!

 

Tom Cruise? Oversexed? NEVER! Like we need another ranting idiot in the world

Yeah, the thought of a scientologist baby really scares me.  Poor kid.....doesn't stand a chance.

 

in Biblical times (not that Scientology has anything to do with the Bible), that being engaged had the same legal status as did marriage itself... So...if we transfer that to modern times...then being engaged is as good as being married so hey baby...let's shag!

Like I said, she got a ring and probably figured that the only thing between her and 'real' marriage was a certificate....so hey, why not?

 

I think everytime my husband goes on a six month deployment I get to become a born again virgin after going without for so long. ha ha

Me too!

 

I knew a girl in High School who decided to abstain because she wanted her cherry to grow back.

You know, there's actually a surgery where doctors re-create a woman's hymen so she can reclaim her virginity.  I've often thought about why a person would want to do something like that.....it was bad enough the first time for me, I wouldn't want to do it again....

 

But sometimes I wonder, if I was under that kind of psychological pressure, could I hold out?

She ste herself up for it, you know.  She proclaimed her virginity to the world.  If she'd shut up about it, nodody would even have asked.  But, she put herself and her virginity on a pedestal when she said that she'd be a virgin until she married....and she's now been knocked off.

But there's one very happy turkey baster in Cruise-land

Thats what I was thinking as well.....must've been some kind of artifical insemination.  because we all know the celebrities don't lie about their sex lives, right...?

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well I’m going to come to Katie’s defense here.

She ste herself up for it, you know. She proclaimed her virginity to the world. If she'd shut up about it, nodody would even have asked. But, she put herself and her virginity on a pedestal when she said that she'd be a virgin until she married....and she's now been knocked off.


She mentioned it once when she was a kid on Dawson’s Creek, it’s the reporters that wouldn’t shut up about it. A side effect of being famous.

We just love to see people who profess higher morals fail don’t we? Makes us feel better about ourselves because we caved the first chance we got. The truth is, she behaved better than most of us and exactly as the pro-lifers think women should behave, right Ted?
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
She mentioned it once when she was a kid on Dawson’s Creek,


I think she's said it more recently. Google: "Katie Holmes" virginity.


BTW... um... I'm a virgin waiting for Ms. Right... so if Nicole Kidman happens to be reading this...

PS -- Oprah will let you jump on her couch, Nic.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top

She mentioned it once when she was a kid on Dawson’s Creek, it’s the reporters that wouldn’t shut up about it. A side effect of being famous.

Umm, incorrect.  Like Gene said, go google it and see what you come up with.  She was hardly a 'kid' either.  She's 26 now, and Dawson's Creek hasn't been on THAT long, so it's not like she was 15 or 16 when she said it.

Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
The few times I've seen footage of the two of them together......does anyone else think Tom practically inhales her? And he seems so much more self-assured with her as opposed to Nichole.

It's kinda creepy to me because it's like he is her father/minister/brain washer/fiance'.

He has gone loopy the last few years and I can see him going off into some isolated place and starting a cult, or a harem or something. We'll see I guess.

I think it would be a GREAT STORY if the kid isn't Tom's! buwahahahah
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am sure she was an "Everything-but" kind of virgin, even then..... like former MTV VJ and game show host Kennedy was.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Lets us give thanx that they did not indulge in anal sex, the birth of a scientoligist LAWYER is too much for me to bear.


HAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top

Did anyone else hear that scientology births are supposed to be free of noise so the birthing mother is expected to not moan or cry out in pain in any sort of way?  Good luck with that Katie, especially if you are also not supposed to take drugs.

I might be old fashioned, but I kind of long for the old days when people weren't "thrilled" when an unmarried couple announced they were expecting.  It is so common now that people rarely even ask if the couple is married or even planning to eventually get married.  Don't get me wrong, I believe in being supportive of those you care about who accidentally find themselves in such a position but I doubt this sort of thing was an accident.

BTW, I loved Gene's turkey baster comment!

Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
Did anyone else hear that scientology births are supposed to be free of noise so the birthing mother is expected to not moan or cry out in pain in any sort of way? Good luck with that Katie, especially if you are also not supposed to take drugs.


And that they don't speak to the child for the first seven days (so much for bonding with your baby).

It was on the radio here this morning--it's all slightly mind-boggling.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Did anyone else hear that scientology births are supposed to be free of noise so the birthing mother is expected to not moan or cry out in pain in any sort of way? Good luck with that Katie, especially if you are also not supposed to take drugs.



I read something about that this morning, and I said that same thing that you did! Man, she has NO idea what she's in for...and neither does he. His kids with Nicole Kidman are adopted, so I don't think he's ever witnessed a birth.

How unrealistic is to to expect a woman to give birth unmediated AND to remian silent the entire time??? I had Davey with no pain meds, and whilst I didn't scream I sure as hell made SOME noise. I don't remember it, but Dave said I was growling, especially when they were telling me not to push so's the doctor could get his gloves and gown on. I had the benefit of a previous labor, so I knew what it was like.....I can't imagine how it would be if it was my first child. I think I'd be telling scientology to eff off; that they weren't the ones giving birth so they should just shut up and give me an epidural!

I might be old fashioned, but I kind of long for the old days when people weren't "thrilled" when an unmarried couple announced they were expecting.


Yeah, getting pregnant without the benefit of marriage never used to be something to crow about and shout from the rooftops. Used to be that you got married before you started to show and THEN announed that you were pregnant afterwards. Heheh.....that's what Dave and I did. I was 9 weeks pregnant with Davey when we got hitched, and we never told anyone except out folks until a couple of weeks after the wedding.