An open letter to Gideon

Nothing personal....

Gideon,
I haven't followed the issues that you are facing for a few days. My life has been busy and I haven't had a chance to get online. Tonight my husband mentioned that Dharma brought up your issues. Before I go and read any threads about CPS and the things that are going on, I want to write a letter to you and to anyone else who hates the system.

I don't know what kind of parent you are. I don't know if your idea of punnishment is grounding a child for a week....or for 3 months. I don't know if you remove the doors in your house and lock the kitchen to "protect" your kids. I don't know if you beat them or hug them. I don't know if you are a good parent or a bad one. I don't know where you draw the line between punishiment and abuse. I don't know anything that you haven't presented to the world through the window of Joeuser. So don't take anything I say personally. Like I said, I dont' know you.

The one thing that you wrote that stuck in my head was how you would do anything in your power to prevent a CPS worker from talking to your child without you being present. That is such a red flag. I want you to see this from the eyes of an abused child and then reconsider your stance.

If my mother was in the room, I was going to say whatever it took to convice you to believe she was wonderful. I would lie so convincingly that you wouldn't have a clue. Trust me....I did, many times and for many years. If my mother wasn't present but was outside the room, I would lie my heart out. She might hear me through the walls. If she didn't know I was talking to you, I might....if I REALLY trusted you....let one tiny little detail slip. That way I could see what would happen. Would you immediately tell my parents what I said? Would you keep my confidence? Whose side were you really on?

The truth is, nobody scared me more than my mother. Not my dad who beat me. Not the kids at school who mocked me for being forced to wear the same outfit to school for 2 weeks straight. Not the social worker who might "take me away". No. My fear was that I would trust someone.....and then they wouldn't take me away.

I don't know if you are a good parent or not, but my mother thought she was. She still thinks she was. I didn't know that normal families dont' make children stand in akward positions for hours untill they fell asleep and fell over. I didn't know that most kids don't worry that mom will wake up and find out that we drank some milk...or talked.....or didn't scrub every inch of the floor with a toothbrush. I didn't know that most kids didn't eat soap or have to smash every possesion as punishment. I didn't know that other kids didn't get locked out of the house. I didn' t know that my childhood was warped until I was in a foster home.

She fought against every invasion of her privacy tooth and nail. She felt justified in the way she raised us and honestly believes she was a wonderful mother...even after numerous counselors, judges and finally, her children told her otherwise.

To the outside world we were a perfect family. Mom, Dad, boy, girl, boy, girl all lined up stair stepped at church. Everyone smiled and was happy. Children were mild mannered and good students. If you didnt' see all the strange things put together, you might not realize something was wrong. This facade continued for too many years because she was so good at manipulating and controlling those around her. Not one of us dared cross her. None of us....my father included....would speak a word against her because she scared us more than anything else. It took years of therapy and thousands of miles before I could really admit to anyone just how bad it was.

If she demanded to be in the room........I never would have said a word.

So, Gideon, you may be a great parent. I hope you are. I hope that everything you say is really the truth and not just what you believe is going on. For your sake and your children's sake, I hope that you are everything that you portray yourself as. But, do you now understand why CPS might ask to talk to your kids alone? If you worry about the truth being warped, ask for a Children's Advocate to be present. But please understand why they ask. It's not to control you or remove your ability to protect your children......it's because there are too many mothers out there who think it's okay to emotionally and physically abuse their children......and don't even see it as anything but love.

Dana
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I posted this elsewhere but it's something I want all who hate the system to think about. CPS workers may have bad apples in the bunch, but most of them are just doing their job and sincerely want to do the right thing.

The line they walk is so fine that even the earnest caseworkers who are sincerely out to do their job and not harrrass anyone are berated and cursed and pushed around. Yeah, Gid doesn't want his rights trampled on. I don't know who is doing the job over there, but imagine them for a sec. They are overworked, checking up on red flag families and they get an obviously exagerated tip. They think, "hey, I'll fun out there and knock this out. All I have to do is check the blocks and make sure nothing is going on." They get there and the parents stonewall. Now instead of being able to focus on the boatload of cases she has backed up already, she has to add this to her list. Get a warrent, re-review the charges, do more thorough background investigation and go back to the house, try to check again. This time, her radar is up. She notices and writes down all the little things that aren't such a big deal alone, but added together might explain the parents reaction. "Why did the dad get so defensive? What IS going on? Was the tip really that exagerated? "What looks like it may have recently been covered up? How are the kids acting? Are they jumpy and on edge?" That may be because Dad hates me and told them I'm a bad person but it might be out of an underlying issue. (By reacting strongly against a SW, the parents show the kids that the SW is "bad" or can't be trusted....they act guarded and refuse to talk....the social worker trys to pry information out of them and may end up leading them or twisting their words because she is just trying to find out if there is abuse or another problem...the situation escalates further) Is she "out to get you"? Probably not. Does she get paid a bonus for every family she tears apart? No. So have a little sympathy for someone who is just trying to do her job. Don't make her the scapegoat of the system you hate so much.

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Nice post. This is the other side of the story.

I've seen all 3 sides personally, a kid in the system, an adult training to be a SW in college and then a parent who answered allegations of abuse to CPS.

Thanks for the post!
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Thank you for posting this, Dana. I have my concerns too. I understand that Gideon doesn't want his rights trampled on, but what about his children's rights? Is he, in his quest to protect his 4th amendment rights, quashing those of his children?

I've heard a lot said about HIS rights, but I haven't heard a whole hell of a lot about his kids.
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I understand that Gideon doesn't want his rights trampled on, but what about his children's rights? Is he, in his quest to protect his 4th amendment rights, quashing those of his children?


Seeing as Gid seems to be a nice guy and I'm not personally able to judge him, I'm using him as a template for my stand. That way I can avoid anyone mistakenly thinking I'm acccusing him of something. But the fact that his situation is such a good example of why CPS has such a difficult job, this matter should be followed.

If you haven't had the chance to see "Close to Home", a new show that aired tonight on CBS? I suggest you try to download the pilot. The premise is that behind perfectly normal looking families....lie abusers, criminals and neglect. haven't we all seen the people who say..."He looked like such a nice boy." as they remove bodies from someguys basement? Think about it.
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The one thing that you wrote that stuck in my head was how you would do anything in your power to prevent a CPS worker from talking to your child without you being present. That is such a red flag. I want you to see this from the eyes of an abused child and then reconsider your stance.


Red flag or not. It "is" a legal stand that he's taking. He does not have to allow any visits with his children without him being present. Unless a court so orders it.
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lifehappens: They also remove their bodies from foster homes far, far too often. CPS isn't GOD, nor are they legitimate authorities to investigate crimes. They needlessly harrow and destroy families with no right to do so. Go back and read Gideon's previous articles.

Go see the frontline special on CPS, the one about the little girl who was taken from her home by CPS, given to a sick woman who duct-taped her to a highchair where she died. All that inability you propose the police have to know about child abuse in the real home is the same ignorance CPS has concerning the homes they chuck these kids in.

Your excuse of stomping on the Constitution "for children" is sickening. Given the standards I have seen in your writing, CPS could be in any home, any time they want. Do you understand how that kind of power can be abused? What branch of government should have the ability to invade our privacy on a whim and steal our children based on NO CRITEREA AT ALL.

According to you the standard is so subjective no one can really know if a child is abused unless they spend months abusing a family. Your image of CPS reminds me of the Soviet Union as described in Doctor Zhivago. "Your attitude is noticed!!" The CPS you describe is some pig-socialist child redistribution project. That kind of power would just be turned into a rape-the-poor adoption agency. We owe children more than that.

It's their Constitution, too, and they are as protected by it as any of it, and as deserving of due process. When you have a fascist organization within the government like CPS, you aren't making their lives better, you are ruining the nation they live in. If you had a hard childhood, I feel for you, but it doesn't give you any right to restructure the Constitutional rights of children and their parents.

Frankly, it should make you MORE careful, since you have such strong, subjective experiences you could easily tar other people with. You shouldn't use your pain to validate the governmental abuse of families in America.
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I wonder if he's still around, reading what we now know about Gideon?
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Where is Gid? I was wondering where he disappeared to. Is there a blog explaining this LW? I was going to write him personally when I stumbled upon this entry. I never saw this when it originally came out.

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Where is Gid? I was wondering where he disappeared to. Is there a blog explaining this LW? I was going to write him personally when I stumbled upon this entry. I never saw this when it originally came out.
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There are several blogs from Gid on his "persecution" from CPS...I bumped a few.

LW posted pics on her blog.WWW Link