Banks, fees, and stupid charges (including legal charges)

Man arrested for Trespassing after refusing to submit to non-customer fee

Sorry I couldn't find a link to a printed version of the news report I watched last nite on the local FOX news affiliate. During their news report, they did a report on banks and the fees that they have been increasingly trying to collect your money with. During the report, the reporter detailed the story of one customer that went into a Bank of America branch, with check drawn on Bank of America, and wished to cash the check. The customer was then hit for a $5 "non relationship" fee for the priviledge of getting the check cashed. The bank reasoned that since he (the customer) was not a Bank of America account holder that they could charge him $5 for the priviledge of getting the cash that another customer was trying to paying him.

The story gets better, because the customer that was trying to cash the check decided he was not going to be subjected to the fees, and he patiently and politely refused to leave the bank without the $5 fee being waived. The bank proceeded to contact the police, who came and charged the man with trespass.

The charges of trespass were eventually dropped, but the bank would not talk to the reporter about the story that was done giving the man a chance to tell his side of the story. His side of the story, along with several (more than 6) other people's story is that Bank of America, and some other banks is trying to gouge customers unfairly for these fees. The man that was arrested had refused to leave the bank because of the principal involved. He felt it was unfair to charge such a fee, and really unfair to do it because the bank policy wasn't made clear before he provided the check to the bank for cashing.

Again, I wish I had links to the more detailed story, but in either case it is the kind of story that really pisses me off.

Banks are getting increasingly hostile to non-customers, and customers alike really. If you are not fortunate enough to hold a large mortgage and have an almost uninsurable amount of money deposited with a bank, the bank will typically find a way to get more of your money for the service they provide. Use of teller fees, ATM fees, minimum balance fees, per check charges, and every other ridiculous fee that can be imagined are charged to customers. If you are a non-customer of a bank, and only want to cash a check that someone wrote from an account at that bank you can enjoy even more charges (such as this "non-relationship fee").

Where are these fees going to end? What happened to the idea that it is "your" money and not the banks? Even more importantly, what happened to the idea that banks provide services for modest fees, rather than for fees that eat up what little money customers may have available to deposit.

I'm not surprised that many people just refuse to even deal with banks. I laugh a bit at the luddites that refuse to use ATMs, but more and more I'm thinking that the idea of not letting a bank hold your money may not be that bad of an idea.

Anyway, the man that was charged with trespass has apparently found legal representation, along with more than 6 other individuals who are also represented by the same lawyer, and the case will be tested in court. Though Bank of America apparently does claim that the fees they charge are completely legal, some local and state laws that require payment in cash or equivalent dollar values may preclude the ability of the bank to charge the fees, or may mean that those customers that write checks that non-customers wish to cash may be forced to foot the bill.
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Reply #1 Top
I don't know why anybody would even use cheques. Isn't it much simpler to simply transfer the money to the recipient's account?
Reply #2 Top
Apparently you miss part of the point - some people refuse to have bank accounts, PERIOD.

They don't want to let banks hold their money, charge them little annoyance fees that slowly but surely take their money from them when all the bank is doing is temporarily holding the money or saying they are holding it and then turning right around and loaning out the bulk of the money to some other customer that will be charged fees for the priviledge of borrowing money from the bank.

There are some alternatives (credit unions as an example), but for many people, the distrust and hatred of banks in general keeps them from wanting to leave their money in any bank at all, which means any EFT (electronic funds transaction) or automatic deposit type transaction will never work.
Reply #3 Top
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Reply #4 Top
I use Bank of America, and I have not been impressed.

We have a checking account that is supposed to be cheaper because we have direct deposit. Express Account, maybe?

So, that was cool before. I think we get one deposit a month through the banking center, and anything beyond that is a $3 charge. Our banking fee is $4 a month. BofA was everywhere, so we could get cash from an ATM, no problem. (Heh, with direct deposit, if we want cash, we have to get it out somehow)

So, the Army sends us to Hawaii. There is no BofA here. At all. Not a single ATM. So if we want cash, we have to use another bank's ATM and are charged $5 by BofA and $3 or so by the bank we use.

There are a lot of places here that are cash only. So, say we want to get some take out sushi...withdraw $20...pay $8 in fees. Ouch.

Further, anytime someone sends us a birthday check or we get a rebate of some kind, I actually have to mail the damn thing and have it deposited. If this happens more than once a month, fee, fee, fee...to DEPOSIT MONEY!!

When we want to withdraw money, we go to the PX or Wal-Mart and buy a stick of gum and get cash back because we sure as hell won't waste that much in fees just to get a bit of cash.

We could change banks, sure...but the direct deposit thing is a hassle, and we'll be moving in another year or so, so changing to Bank of Hawaii is not gonna help much.

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

My apologies for rambling, but this drives me nuts.
Reply #5 Top
B of A sucks. And they probably just charged 5 bucks from my account for saying that. But I only use that one for cashing local checks.

For everything else, I use USAA. I've had a bank account with them for 6 years, later did my insurance, my mortgage, car loan, credit card, the works. They've never given me any hassle.