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Mac Zealots: Get a grip

Mac Zealots: Get a grip

Is there anything Apple didn't invent?

https://www.wincustomize.com/articles.aspx?AID=86679&SID=1

Over at MicrosoftGadgets.com, Mac zealots are giving new meaning to the term uninformed fanatic.  This week, Microsoft announced Microsoft Gadgets.  As has been discussed, gadgets are similar to widgets except they do not require the user to download a run-time in order to use them. They're stand-alone entities.

Microsoft's gadgets are designed to be used on Windows Vista (and on XP via Avalon) and can sit on the desktop, be placed on the Windows Side-bar and be put onto the web.

Mac zealots started foaming that Microsoft was ripping off Apple.  A pretty impressive display of chutzpah considering Apple ripped off the concept from Konfabulator.  Some Mac users tried to argue that no, that's not true, Apple's desktop accessories predate it all.  Balderdash. I knew Apple accessories.  Apple accessories were a friend of mine. Dashboard is no follow-on to desktop accesories.  It's interesting to note that Mac zealots only discovered the wonder of desktop accessories AFTER Dashboard had been announced.  In the 5 years DesktopX had existed, not once did a Mac user say "That's a copy of Desktop accessories".  Similarly, you'd be hard pressed to go onto the Konfabulator forums and see an early post from someone saying "Isn't this just like desktop accessories?"  In short, the desktop accessories comparison was manufactured by zealots to cover the fact that Apple got caught, again, ripping off its ISVs.

So it's rather ironic to hear them argue Microsoft was ripping off Apple.  If anyone should be mad, it should be Stardock.  After all, DesktopX was the first mini-application enabler that allowed end users to easily create them.  The DNA difference between DesktopX's widgets/gadgets, Konfabulator, Dashborad, Kapsules, etc. is relatively small compared to the difference between them and something like desktop accessories (or hypercard or Incan clay tablets for that matter). 

But you haven't heard Stardock complain about Microsoft's gadget strategy even though it's identical to Stardock's.  People all week have been asking us for our reaction to Microsoft's announcement.  Similarly, when Yahoo bought Konfabulator, we were asked for our reaction.  How would it affect DesktopX? We didn't really say much.  This week, users everywhere discovered the reason we've been so quiet.

I'm not the only one who finds the latest example of historical revisioning by Mac zealots galling.  Paul Boyer, who was created DesktopX objects back in 1999 (as in clocks, mp3 players, drive monitors, you get the idea) without knowing programming (he's a graphics designer) is appalled as well.  Check out the article below.

And stay tuned to more information on the Stardock/Microsoft gadget evolution. Exciting things are afoot.

 

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Reply #26 Top
Brad:
Well said. The last paragraph was what I was looking for, specifically. My final question, who owns wincustomize? If it's indeed you, Brad, then I apologize because I've been completely in the wrong here. Is it Stardock, is it the WC staff, etc?

Mormegil:
It's a good question you posit: I've found I can get my dashboard widgets to the desktop by simply dragging them. Apple apparently doesn't advertise this. Activate the Dashboard through your preferred method (Expose, hot-key) and then click on the widget you want on your desktop and deactivate Dashboard. Then drop it on the desktop.

The first time I tried this, the desktop widget disappeared once the Dashboard was reactivated, but for some reason mine are sticking to the desktop now. Dunno if there was a system update that specifically addressed this, or maybe the installation of Xcode triggered some sort of "Developers Mode."
Reply #27 Top

Well said. The last paragraph was what I was looking for, specifically. My final question, who owns wincustomize? If it's indeed you, Brad, then I apologize because I've been completely in the wrong here. Is it Stardock, is it the WC staff, etc?

Stardock owns WinCustomize.com and I effectively own Stardock.

The way the site is run, however, is largely up to the community.  The more the community contributes to it, the more the community controls what it does.  Where there's a vacuum, Stardock steps in to fill it.

The front page news being a good example.  Other pepole don't submit many news items even though they could. So I step in and write up news items.  And since I have my own perspective on things, it comes through.

Reply #28 Top
Yes, mine still will not stick. If I can get that fixed then I will be ok with the widgets.
Reply #29 Top
Not sure who quoted this but I like it, "History is simply an account of the people who could shout the loudest"

I don't have an issue with any platform and I tend to think that competition is a good thing, Windows would be a better product with some real competition nipping at its heels.

What worries me slightly though is whether these windows widgety things will be free? Something like that bundled with the OS would surely stomp on any competition, as happened with Netscape for example.
Reply #30 Top
My goodness...

At any rate, I do somewhat agree with biotech on front page news... but considering the topic, I think it is front page news and should be on a few sites.

*waits to see if grand opening of skinning site becomes front page news*
Reply #31 Top
esg-designs, my submitted brief news articles about skinyourscreen.com and skinwiki going online were rejected. Hope yours gets through.