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When does a homo sapien get a soul?

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When does a homo sapien get a soul?

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Seriously, when does a homo sapien get a soul.  If you believe in souls, then at what point in the life cycle - conception to death - do they acquire a soul.  And how is it determined?

I know we (all here at JU) probably would like to argue that some never do (Gacy, Dahmer, Hitler, etc).  But according to your belief system, when does a homo sapien - the vessel - get a soul?

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
I thought the Catholic catechism taught that every one's born with a soul, but that baptism is where it is first saved (in the case of infant baptism, by proxy) from hell. Which then has to be followed up for the rest of your life with confession, acts of contrition and the like to keep from going there.

Of course I could be wrong, I'm a Baptist.


I also belived that was the case.
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top
I thought the Catholic catechism taught that every one's born with a soul, but that baptism is where it is first saved (in the case of infant baptism, by proxy) from hell. Which then has to be followed up for the rest of your life with confession, acts of contrition and the like to keep from going there.


You are right--reply #6 has the history of the churches debate over the soul.
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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
I agree with Stutefish's response:

My scriptures imply that souls may actually exist before the body does--possibly even predating time itself--but that may be a matter of interpretation.


Especially because in my culture we refer to young children as "old souls" a lot if they are very self-aware and do things that reminds us of other family members who have been around.

We also believe in "deja vu" (my spelling may be wrong) because it is our belief that each of us have been on this earth before at one point or another. Although it's pretty much a part of our culture, some people who are a part of our culture don't believe in this. Some say it's a lot of "old folks tales".

Personally I do believe in deja vu and I do believe that we get our souls at birth.
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
I told you I was a very lapsed Catholic...
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top

It's not an event that happens or an object which you recieve. I have to vote that it's as soon as you come into existence at conception.

Thank you.  A very good answer.

Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top

Okay, from a very lapsed Roman Catholic, I thought I was given my soul when I was baptised. If this is the case, then I was about 7 months old before I got soul. Not that I actually believe it now. I mean I do believe we have a soul, of sorts. Its called our Buddha nature, if you believe as I do.

Baptism is the removal of original sin (Adam and Eve and the Apple).  One cannot have a sin, unless one already has a soul.

Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top

I thought the Catholic catechism taught that every one's born with a soul, but that baptism is where it is first saved (in the case of infant baptism, by proxy) from hell. Which then has to be followed up for the rest of your life with confession, acts of contrition and the like to keep from going there.

Of course I could be wrong, I'm a Baptist.

Pretty close tho.  Altho that is where the Catholics came up with Limbo as they could not condemn an unbaptized infant to hell.

Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top

I also belived that was the case.

Not quite. Altho at one time that was pretty much it.

Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

You are right--reply #6 has the history of the churches debate over the soul.

Still dodging, eh?

Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top

Personally I do believe in deja vu and I do believe that we get our souls at birth.

At birth or conception?  I think Stutefish implied conception.

Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
I told you I was a very lapsed Catholic...
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