I would die for your child and you..
Can you say the same??
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Today I had the privilege (and yes it was a privilege) to listen to Lt. Col. Dave Grossman (U.S. Army Rangers, Ret.)for the 5th or 6th time. And every time I listen to him, he makes me proud. (www.kilology.com)
Dave (I hope I have earned the right to address him as Dave, being ex-Army myself, and a friend) spoke of many good examples and reasons why we are where we are today in the current scheme of things. A few things he said really hit home and I wanted to share them with you.
One of the first things he talked about struck me as very interesting. He works and conducts research with many doctors and professors in the field of combat effects on men and women in the military. He talked of a new acronym that is being used at the hospitals seeing our injured men and women from Iraq. He called it P.T.G. “Post Traumatic Growth”. Not Post Traumatic Stress Disorder”. He said many of the men and women coming back from Iraq are showing character and determination not to let their injuries slow them down or get them down. He talked of WW2 when we had approx 400,000 killed and yet 500,000 lost due to metal casualties. But in Iraq, we are having many of the injured and wounded coming out of the situation, in what they themselves are describing as “better” than when they went in. Not near the mental casualties we had in WW2. Even those losing limbs and life changing injuries. . Why is this? Why are they re-enlisting in record numbers as never before. He says it’s due to the fact they see first hand the difference they are making in Iraq and Afghanistan. They believe in what they are doing. That’s why they are so positive in what they feel and how they recover.
He also brought up some very good points I had not thought of in a while. He asked the question “What is the single greatest act of International Terrorism to date?” The answer of course is the attack on the World Trade Centers. But it seems that we forget that. Check with the Guinness book of records.
He also talked of what the terrorist are doing and why. The terrorist are fighting us in Iraq because they find it easier than fighting us here in the US. And that is the way I like it (and many others). If we were not fighting them overseas in Iraq where would we be fighting them? Would it be here in the US? Is that what we want? I don’t.
Then he reminded us of the terrorist primary targets. The children and the, the innocents that can not defend themselves. Why do you think the terrorist use IED’s as their primary weapons? Because they can not win any kind of a stand up fight against the finest fighting force in the world, the U.S. military. Why do you think they are coming from surrounding countries, for that matter all over the world to fight in Iraq? Because in the U.S. they know we would not allow them the ability to do what they are. I would love to see some terrorist try to hide in my neighborhood. They would find themselves at the business end of an MP5 in about an hour after being turned in by the neighbor next to them. And the cops would love nothing better than to make the business end of a firearm the last thing they see.
If your against the war in Iraq would you rather have us fighting them here in the states? If we pull out of Iraq to soon, do you think they will shift their focus to the U.S.? Is that what you want? You want them here in the states? I don’t. I want them facing the finest fighting force in the world, the U.S. military in Iraq and on somebody else’s soil. Is that selfish? Sure I admit, and I don’t care!
Do you want an attack like they had in Russia at Beslan? 1200 hostages, 338 dead, 727 wounded. Do you want that in one of our schools? Why hasn’t it happened? Why have they not killed your child? Because of the military engaging them in Iraq and elsewhere. You are ignorant of the facts if you think otherwise. If someone took your son or daughters school hostage what would you want the U.S. to do about it? I for one, having a 1st grade son, would want them to kill every single terrorist involved. And if my son had to die, I would want his life to not be in vain. Just as the parents at Beslan felt.
So to all you naysayers and other that think we should not be in Iraq, when they come to your neighborhood and take your kids, or your neighbors kids or your grandkids hostage and kill them to make a point, remember, they could be fighting them in a foreign land, and fighting our well trained and well equipped soldiers, you didn’t want that.
But of course each morning you walk out of your door you could just say “Baaaaaa” and be the sheep you want everyone else to be. If you are not willing to stand up fight then get out of the way of those that are! We will protect you from the big bad terrorist, and maybe I will even stand in front of your kid when the time comes, that’s because I believe in what we stand for and what we must do.

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Dave (I hope I have earned the right to address him as Dave, being ex-Army myself, and a friend) spoke of many good examples and reasons why we are where we are today in the current scheme of things. A few things he said really hit home and I wanted to share them with you.
One of the first things he talked about struck me as very interesting. He works and conducts research with many doctors and professors in the field of combat effects on men and women in the military. He talked of a new acronym that is being used at the hospitals seeing our injured men and women from Iraq. He called it P.T.G. “Post Traumatic Growth”. Not Post Traumatic Stress Disorder”. He said many of the men and women coming back from Iraq are showing character and determination not to let their injuries slow them down or get them down. He talked of WW2 when we had approx 400,000 killed and yet 500,000 lost due to metal casualties. But in Iraq, we are having many of the injured and wounded coming out of the situation, in what they themselves are describing as “better” than when they went in. Not near the mental casualties we had in WW2. Even those losing limbs and life changing injuries. . Why is this? Why are they re-enlisting in record numbers as never before. He says it’s due to the fact they see first hand the difference they are making in Iraq and Afghanistan. They believe in what they are doing. That’s why they are so positive in what they feel and how they recover.
He also brought up some very good points I had not thought of in a while. He asked the question “What is the single greatest act of International Terrorism to date?” The answer of course is the attack on the World Trade Centers. But it seems that we forget that. Check with the Guinness book of records.
He also talked of what the terrorist are doing and why. The terrorist are fighting us in Iraq because they find it easier than fighting us here in the US. And that is the way I like it (and many others). If we were not fighting them overseas in Iraq where would we be fighting them? Would it be here in the US? Is that what we want? I don’t.
Then he reminded us of the terrorist primary targets. The children and the, the innocents that can not defend themselves. Why do you think the terrorist use IED’s as their primary weapons? Because they can not win any kind of a stand up fight against the finest fighting force in the world, the U.S. military. Why do you think they are coming from surrounding countries, for that matter all over the world to fight in Iraq? Because in the U.S. they know we would not allow them the ability to do what they are. I would love to see some terrorist try to hide in my neighborhood. They would find themselves at the business end of an MP5 in about an hour after being turned in by the neighbor next to them. And the cops would love nothing better than to make the business end of a firearm the last thing they see.
If your against the war in Iraq would you rather have us fighting them here in the states? If we pull out of Iraq to soon, do you think they will shift their focus to the U.S.? Is that what you want? You want them here in the states? I don’t. I want them facing the finest fighting force in the world, the U.S. military in Iraq and on somebody else’s soil. Is that selfish? Sure I admit, and I don’t care!
Do you want an attack like they had in Russia at Beslan? 1200 hostages, 338 dead, 727 wounded. Do you want that in one of our schools? Why hasn’t it happened? Why have they not killed your child? Because of the military engaging them in Iraq and elsewhere. You are ignorant of the facts if you think otherwise. If someone took your son or daughters school hostage what would you want the U.S. to do about it? I for one, having a 1st grade son, would want them to kill every single terrorist involved. And if my son had to die, I would want his life to not be in vain. Just as the parents at Beslan felt.
So to all you naysayers and other that think we should not be in Iraq, when they come to your neighborhood and take your kids, or your neighbors kids or your grandkids hostage and kill them to make a point, remember, they could be fighting them in a foreign land, and fighting our well trained and well equipped soldiers, you didn’t want that.
But of course each morning you walk out of your door you could just say “Baaaaaa” and be the sheep you want everyone else to be. If you are not willing to stand up fight then get out of the way of those that are! We will protect you from the big bad terrorist, and maybe I will even stand in front of your kid when the time comes, that’s because I believe in what we stand for and what we must do.
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'big sigh'