Driver beware - big brother is watching you

Technology helps monitor drivers for all kinds of activity

A new article, (as opposed to this old article: Privacy Experts Shun Black Boxes) reminds me yet again that anyone that is using our roads best be aware that big brother is watching you, perhaps in many more ways than you are aware.

I was discussing the above linked article with friends, and for the most part, their responses were something along the lines of you are being paranoid, don't worry about it, down to a typical "don't do anything to cause concern and you have nothing to worry about."

That seems fine, but like many, I'm known to sometimes exercise what some localities consider a lead foot. I try hard not to be reckless, no weaving in and out of traffic, no tailgating, leaving enough room (but not too much) for others to be able to manuever around me, etc. But I do admittedly occassionally drive faster than the posted limits. In the greater D.C. area, not doing so would be considered reckless. You either drive to keep up with traffic and not cause a many mile traffic backup behind you, or you could find yourself run off the road (or never getting on it) because some jerk won't let you merge in, or that same jerk tries to cause you to crash or get off their roads.

Leadfooters need to be aware that insurers (among others) are able to make use of black box type devices to monitor your vehicle. Whether you know it or not, if you are driving a fairly recent vehicle (last 10 years, give or take), your vehicle is monitoring data on your driving habits. Depending upon the vehicle and the computers inside of it, more data may be available than you would expect. And as the article below tell us, that data, and more, may be available to the legal system, where it can and will apparently be used against you in the court of law.

It may be too late to stop the use of this data -- some rental car companies have reportedly used the data, as have insurers, and now the legal system itself -- or we may be able to put the genie back in the bottle by demanding laws that protect our rights to privacy in this area, but if things don't change, the slippery slope will continue to be traversed in the wrong directions.

Article below is linked (headline). Please visit the original source for more information and complete article.




Mich. County Uses Black Boxes for Drivers

Aug 26, 2:34 PM (ET)

NOVI, Mich. (AP) - A judge in Oakland County is using black box technology to keep an eye on drivers who repeatedly run afoul of the law. The boxes have been installed in the vehicles of 14 defendants since 52-1 District Court Judge Brian MacKenzie created the program last year.
They track a vehicle's speed and other actions, such as acceleration rate and whether a driver slams the brakes or makes sharp turns.
The black box requirement is part of a program called Driver Rehabilitation Incorporating Vehicular Education - or DRIVE - and applies only to drivers who have a license and are on probation. Others in the program are required to attend group therapy, take driver training or perform community service.
"The idea is to come up with a sentence that makes the individuals coming into the program better drivers, safer drivers, improving the safety of everyone around," MacKenzie told The Detroit News for a Friday story. "And it seems to work."



... more at linked article

Again, driver beware. Big brother is watching. If not by an add-on black box, then by the computers that are already in your vehicles. Think before you get behind the wheel and turn the key.
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Reply #1 Top
That's why I drive a 1979 Honda Civic. Still gets 35 MPG after 210k miles, and there's no computer whatsoever.

Brilliant!

-- B
Reply #2 Top
Well, to be fair, big brother was always watching you: there was never any telling when a state trooper would roll up behind you and clock your speed, run your plates, etc.

Nowadays, a lot of that kind of police work can be done better, and cheaper, with a black box, a computer network, and a couple clerks.

But it's still just the same old business of society policing itself.
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When I bought my last car, I was also told that they could (and would) look at the onboard computer info, and take it into account when applying the warranty. I was told they could look at exactly the way the car was being handled (speed, redlining, hard-braking, etc.) and tell in many cases if the driver had caused the problem.
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The comments from Stutefish, compounded with those of Spc Nobody Special remind me quite a bit of an old, original Star Trek episode. The episode was: Star Trek: The Original Series, episode 15, "Court Martial" (not trying to be too geeky/nerdy here, but linking to a site with an episode guide that provides more details).

In the episode, Capt. Kirk was put on trial (a Court-Martial) for killing a member of a his crew (Lieutenant Commander Ben Finney) by his actions during an Ion storm. Kirk is put on trial thanks to the computer record of the events during the storm. In the end, he is found not guilty thanks to some detective work by trusty Mr. Spock, good ol' Doctor McCoy and a curmudgeonly old lawyer (Samuel T. Cogley, played by character actor Elisha Cook, Jr.) who believed in -- of all things -- books.

Cogley didn't believe in computers, he believed that they could be manipulated and as machines, they weren't the equivalent of real humans and weren't as trusty.

These on-board computer systems for cars seem to be leading ever more into the direction that was somewhat predicted in that old Trek episode, and other science fiction classics of the past.

I have relatives that have worked in law enforcement in the past, and I've discussed with them issues I have with the use of RADAR for traffic ticketing and other issues. I've never been a big fan of the RADAR jocks that like to hand out tickets in bunches, hiding off the side of the road waiting for someone to come speeding by. In many areas (D.C. metro area a bit example) the RADAR jock could write literally thousands of tickets if they choose, but unfortunately they fight a losing numbers battle. Not enough cops and too many speeders.

What always bothered me was the somewhat random nature of who a cop would pull over. The guy in the sporty car, gotta nail him. The red car, yup, make an example. The muscle car, another great example. The big ol' caddy or the family station wagon, nah, let them go and wait for the guy in the BMW to come speeding by.

What bothers me most about such stops is that the RADAR jock is really the only witness of the readings on the RADAR. There's no camera evidence (typically), no real way of ever seeing hard proof of what the RADAR was aimed at, what the readings were, except for the word of the cop, who is taken as an expert witness by the court as soon as he raises his hand in front of the judge. That always frustrated me. How could the cop be an expert and why is he less likely to be telling a lie or providing a misstatement of fact than say the accused?

In the past, I suggested that that in the future something like an RFID tag would be embedded in a vehicle's license tags, and that RADAR guns, or Laser/Lidar type devices that were used to catch speeders would wind up including the license plate number/RFID number in a picture or video that would provide fairly incontrovertable evidence of which vehicle was in the RADAR beam.

Over time, I've seen localities like D.C. start using photo-cop RADAR setups, places like Columbia, Maryland, D.C., Bowie, Maryland and others that use stop light cameras to help catch red light runners by using pictures that clearly show the vehicle that has commited the infraction, along with the tag number of the vehicle shown clearly.

We haven't quite gotten to the point of getting good pictures of the drivers of the vehicles, but we are getting closer to that point, and it seems more and more that technology will be used to help do as stutefish suggests, along with doing what Spc Nobody Special has noted.