Thou Shalt Not Kill

I very rarely do these link based-blogs but I wanted to share this video with as many people as possible. This is American fundamentalist Pat Robertson calling for the murder of Venezualan president Hugo Chavez: Link

Where does one even start with this extraordianry call to jihad against Chavez? Well, I suppose one could reflect on Robertson's breathtaking hypocrisy, that he, supposedly a man of God, is calling for the murder (and let's not use euphemisms) the murder of another human being. Mr. Robertson's "flexible" interpretation of the ten commandments reminds me of an old saying about Northern Ireland: "far too much religion, far too little Christianity."

But, even allowing for Pat's hazy recollection of Moses' dos and don'ts, his statement still displays all the inate logic and clear thinking of a drunken ten year old:

There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez].

No, Pat, there was a CIA-backed elite coup.

And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing.

Apart from being the only country in the world to recognise the new regime.

And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken;

That coup was "broken", Paddy, by a popular uprising.

He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy

If by "destroyed" you mean "distributed his country's extraordinary oil wealth a little more equitably", then you're bang on the money.

he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

Ah, yes, well-known Islamic fundamentalist Hugo Chavez. I think he's the one behind 9-11 myself.

You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war.

Assassination: the cost-effective way to regime change! In today's "downsized" world, labour-intensive means of toppling foreign governments, such as the use of large land-based invasion forces, are so passe.

And I don't think any oil shipments will stop.

Oh, you don't "think" so. Great. I'm sure the Big Man has given you some sort of reassurance on that point. I have faith.

But this man is a terrific danger

Were you looking in a mirror when you said that part?

This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced.

Oh, you've announced them? That's OK then. It's fine to be an imperialist, as long as you announce it up-front. I can't stand those imperialists who are in denial. They need therapy, you know, a bit of time on the couch to bring out their inner coloniser.

We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator

Chavez being one of those fiendish democratically-elected dictators. Don't you just hate those tyrants who think they have a right to rule just because the people voted them into office? They're the worst.

It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.

Yeah, that'll get it over with. Can't imagine the millions of Venezualans who voted for Chavez holding his murder against the US.

Mr Robertson's murderous ramblings are the product of a deeply sick mind. But every country has its nutters, I'm just gald that Robertson has no influence with the people who run the US. Oh, wait...
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Mr Robertson's murderous ramblings are the product of a deeply sick mind. But every country has its nutters, I'm just gald that Robertson has no influence with the people who run the US. Oh, wait...

That is the MAIN point... he is a nutter and has very little or no influence. He does well on his TV shows financially though. Perhps the time has come to start calling for a boycott of all his sponsors... that will show them all what we think.
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But, even allowing for Pat's hazy recollection of the ten commandments, his statement still displays all the inate logic and clear thinking of a drunk ten year old:

Excuse me!  A drunk 10 year old?  Why are you so insulting to a drunk 10 year old?

That being said, I am glad someone finally wrote an article on this.  I think we can safely ignore that boob as he is everything but a rational example of a compassionate person.

I dont remember who asked me, but on one of my articles someone asked me why I thought Pat Robertson was a loon.  Guess I should have told him "Just wait a few days, he will prove it for me."

 

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THE FAR RIGHT IS insane, so are there ramblings, pay them no attention.
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this is one of those things that I woke up this morning, logged onto my internet, and there on my home page in big letters: Christian TV Evegelist Calls for Chavez Assassination

Then, I read it the news article....now, I have never really liked any of the 700 club garbage....I am a Christian, though (but the only Christian TV show I have ever really watched was Kenneth Copeland's Believer's Voice of Victory)....but after I read it, I wondered: Did this joke of a man think after the show that maybe he really shouldn't have said something like that?

Then, I thought...this is Pat Robertson....hell no he didn't think anything like that.

What a real Christian thing to say, there Patty....good job!!

(That last little bit was sarcasm for those of you that have a hard time with things like that....afterall, there are a few of them around these parts that do have trouble with sarcasm...)
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you know, you kind of wish he was joking because, if he was, this must rank as one of the highest achievements of sustained satire / parody in living memory. astonishing.
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Pat Robertson is a dolt.
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Thanks everyone for your comments.
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Well, alright Mr. Robertson might be rambling a bit, but he's not coming from out of nowhere either. His knickers are in a knot because Chavez has formally announced that he intends to make Venezuela communist, along the lines of Cuba. Of course, that's been cause for a lot of excitement within the left, particularly within Canada since Venezuela's former foreign minister has recently become the ambassador to Canada and he's been doing alot of public relations around here lately.

But in any case, I'm not excusing Mr. Robertson's wierdo speech, I'm just observing that Chavez is definitely looking to pick a fight, and pick a fight he has. Other countries in South America are leaning left, just much more quietly: Uruguay for example. Meanwhile rumor has it that Chavez is having a hard time keeping his armed forces in line, which is why they all got hefty raises this summer, representing 50-60% of their annual salaries. I'd be willing to bet that from here on in, electoral politics are going to get really sticky in Venezuela.

Meanwhile, other causes for concern for the US would be Bolivia's next elections, which might bring to power famous cocalero union leader Evo Morales... at least it would be distraction from Venezuela Viva la revolucion...
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No, no.....don't stop him, I'm looking for a job right now, and I've always thought it would be great to run my own country, like Venezuela or Columbia.

I mean, look how well it's worked out for Kim Jong Il. Robertson may be a nutter, but a job opportunity like this just doesn't roll around on it's own every day.

Go Robertson! Preach on you crazy son-of-a-bitch!
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Pat Robertson's words were wrong, but that also doesn't validate the sawed-off little Castro wanna-be, either. Leaders that redistribute "wealth a little more equitably" generally end up on the end of a stick held by the very people they pretended to represent...

...or become fascists to keep hold of their beloved caretaker role, and just end up doing worse things than the people they overthrew. I don't agree with Robertson, but I'm not about to back-slap people who cozy up to Iran and Cuba just to feel important.
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What's interesting about Mr. Robertson's words is that he's old, he forgot his filter. His talk about the backyard and the Monroe doctrine made me wonder if we accidentally became voyeurs to the private thoughts of a significant chunk of American political elite. Did somehow, unwittingly, last night's dinner conversation accidentally pop into his television musings? (I imagine him kicking himself, saying gosh darn, I was supposed to elaborate on June's sermon about how Orlando's fires were nothing less than divine punishment for showing tolerance to gay people, as now it will suffer Katarina - repent Orlando, repent!)

But hold up on Cuba, Castro is neither on the end of a stick, nor is he worse than Batista. I find Cuba, albeit fascist, is still more pleasant than El Salvador, Honduras, Nicargua, Haiti... There is something about the tyranny of mass starvation that seems to me more absolute than the tyranny of Cuba's take on totalitarianism. In Central America, when will 'democracy' become democratic? Perhaps when people are no longer driven to cast their ballot in return for a hot meal, or maybe a cap. If there ever was a unannounced race in the region to prove which model social and economic development is most appealing, nay passable, Cuba resembles paradise island when sitting next to Haiti which drowns in the blood, sweat and bile of a pile of murderous new wave tonton macoutes, profiteering peacekeepers and the desperado violence of Lavalas.

This being said, I figure Venezuela is not Cuba, and Chavez is no Castro.
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This is in our sphere of influence


Hmmm, I've always thought Venezuela was in Venezuela's sphere of influence.
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"Hmmm, I've always thought Venezuela was in Venezuela's sphere of influence."


And yet they try to influence us with their oil and all this midget-on-a-soapbox grandstanding. Small nations can influence us (i.e. stick us up, blackmail us, etc.) but we are oppressors when we exert our own influence.
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"And yet they try to influence us with their oil" (italics added)

Well, that's exactly the point, it's Venezuela's oil so it's up to them who they do and don't sell it to. At the minute Chavez is quite happy to sell oil to the US. So what's the problem? Why should the US be threatened by Chavez using his country's natural welath to create a higher standard of living for the poor? How does this threaten the US?
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I think you are ignoring Chavez's own words about how he intends to deal with the US, OG San. You portray him as some neutral partner, when in reality he is railing belligerantly about how he is going to put the US in its place.
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"he is railing belligerantly"

And how would you describe the American's government's behaviour towards him? I don't recall Chavez backing a coup against Bush. What do you expect him to do when the US government is trying to overthrow him? Say "thank-you"?
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And how would you describe the American's government's behaviour towards him? I don't recall Chavez backing a coup against Bush. What do you expect him to do when the US government is trying to overthrow him? Say "thank-you"?

Can you document that?  Or is it just another kook theory ala Robertson?  Bush does not like him, but what has he done to overthrow him?

Big Difference.

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Good article on this issue by a Venezuelan-American Link

Evidence of the US government's support for anti-Chavez groups is coming to light thanks in no small part to the Freedom Of Information Act in the States. There is much more to be uncovered here I suspect. Time is the great revealer.
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Evidence of the US government's support for anti-Chavez groups is coming to light thanks in no small part to the Freedom Of Information Act in the States. There is much more to be uncovered here I suspect. Time is the great revealer.

I guess that means we have to wait for proof of your allegations?

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"backing" in this case means meeting with the planners of the coup several months before. They knew it was goingt to happen, and, coincidentally, so did several Arab countries who supposedly warned Chavez and that's why the coup went south.

Chavez is a thug, stifling opposition, passing laws that criminalize insulting him, tasking prosecutors with monitoring the press. This guy's hero is Castro. He calls qadafi's Libya "a model of participatory democracy". People who differ with him have to flee to the US. He summarily vetos union elections. His whole system of rule was invented by HIMSELF and his cronies after he sanitized the court system of opposition.

Add to that the fact that this hater-of-coups himself started his career by starting a military conspiracy responsible for two coups in 1992. He's a garden variety dictator in sheep's clothing, but Liberals around the world love him for hating the US. When he does fall, as he should, they'll just blame the US and pretend he was Ghandi.
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Baker,

"People who differ with him have to flee to the US"

They "have to"? They absolutely "have to" leave the country? Then who were all those people who took part in the strike in 2003? How come they didn't "have to" leave the country?

Or the 42% of Venezuelans voters who voted against Chavez in last year's recall? Did they all "have to" leave? Just how many Venezuelans are there in Florida these days? It's a wonder the place doesn't sink.

You are correct to point out that Chavez has embraced some fairly loathsome charcters in his time. Perhaps, as someone who supports Bush, you would be good enough to admit that your president has done exactly the same thing. The Saudis and the Chinese being just two examples.
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Little Whip,

In a way you are correct. I wrote this blog not to praise Chavez as such, but more to ridicule Robertson. I had expected that at least one of the many right-wingers on this site would be good enough to defend Pat so I could have an argument with them. But it seems that Robertson is too mad even for Joeuser. You live and learn.