LET ISRAEL BOMB IRANIAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES

I agree in spirit that the war we are fighting in the Middle East on the whole is going to end up being bloodier and more painful than if we just had a real war and got it over with, but I think you'll run into problems from others on a few points.

First, Iran hasn't admitted to a nuclear weapons program, and the inspectors haven't made any headway in proving that there was a weapons program. To them supposedly it is about energy production. I know, I ask myself the same question, in nations perking with oil and absolutely no interest in ecology, why are these people looking for a nuclear alternative. I don't think they are either.

Also there is the sticky argument that they are 'cooperating', as usual. Who knows really?

The thing is, Iran has a large pro-west movement, and even more that are pro-democracy. It is a fine balance at the moment. I'm not sure bombing them is the way to go, especially if it is done by a polarizing force like Israel. Many of those Islamic Arabs who are pro-west and pro-democracy still aren't huge fans of Israel, and making them the 'hand of change' might be something that closes many budding channels of goodwill. I think everyone would agree that if Isreal had taken part in any of the Iraqi campaigns those conflicts would have had a much different tone throughout the Middle East.

I don't trust Iran, but I think there is support for change there that you didn't find in Iraq. I could be wrong. I only hope if it becomes apparent that there is no hope for their regime that we have someone in power in the US that will give a damn.

Is The Jews' "Chosen People" Masquerade Finally Over?

Shortly after World War I, Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company, assembled a staff of experts in Detroit to conduct research on the European Jews who had been entering America in large numbers since the 1880's. Ford provided the staff with several million dollars for this research, and in 1923 he published the results in a four-volume work titled "THE INTERNATIONAL JEW." It was Henry Ford's conclusion that very few of these people who called themselves "Jews" were descendants of the Bible Israelites. Ford further proved that these Jews, using all sorts of crimes while under the cloak of being the Chosen People of the Bible, were rapidly taking economic and political control of America. In the religious field, Ford claimed THE JEWS HAD SECRETLY GAINED CONTROL OF MOST PROTESTANT SEMINARIES AND CHRISTIAN BOOK- PUBLISHING HOUSES and had been able to remove almost all criticism of Jews from Christian literature. In summing up his findings, Henry Ford stated, "The Jews are not the Chosen People, though practically the entire Church has succumbed to the propaganda which declares them to be so." Ford's book caused a furor for a few years but soon disappeared from colleges, universities, and public libraries and became unobtainable at any price. The Churches continued to teach "The Jews are God's Chosen People, Israel," and the (by then) Jewish-dominated news media began to refer to Jews always as Israelites. Anyone opposing the increasing Jewish control of the nations was immediately branded "anti-Semitic;" and Jewish dominated Seminaries taught new ministers to quote Genesis 12:1-3 and sternly warn their flocks that anyone speaking unfavorably of the Jews would be "cursed by God." Jewish control of American society, politics, and religions continued to increase.

In 1951 retired U.S. Military Intelligence Officer, Col. John Beaty, published a scholarly 265-page book IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA. In it Col. Beaty gave overwhelming evidence this strange Race of Eastern European "Jews" were actually Khazar and Mongol Asiatics and had no racial ancestory in Israel at all.

He then proved that by 1951 these "Jews" had a stranglehold on American politics, on Banking and Credit, on all sources of news, on the entertainment industry, on America's education system, and that they were the predominant race as judges, lawyers, doctors, and in organized crime. The Jewish news media refused to review the book, Jewish book dealers refused to handle it, Christian book stores ignored it, and only a few thousand copies were distributed. Most Americans never heard of IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA. Now, because of renewed interest, both THE INTERNATIONAL JEW (in an abridged edition) and IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA have been reprinted and are available. (See ordering information below). The latest, and perhaps the most succinct book on this subject, is ISRAEL'S 5 TRILLION DOLLAR SECRET by Col. Curtis B. Dall, former son-in-law of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and a personal acquaintance of many high officials in the U.S. Govern ment since the 1930's. Col. Dall lives and works in the Washington, D. C. area, and his book, published in 1977. Col. Dall proves again, from reliable sources, that the Jews are NOT Israelites. In fact, Col. Dall calls their masquerade as "Israel" the greatest "hoax" of the last centuries! It should be read by every non-Jew.

You now know their false identity as "Israel" protects these "Jews" from being exposed as aliens and as anti-Americans. Read the books below. Give this sheet to your Minister. Tell him to preach the truth - or resign! Most preaching today is based on the "Jew-Israel" myth, and it is false.

"Fear them not therefore; for there is nothing covered that shall not be revealed: and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye on the housetops" (Jesus, in Matthew 10:26,27)

THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE

Oof... Well, I guess every once and while someone comes a long and puts the word 'paranoid' into perspective, huh?

Mordok : I don't have any opinion as to whether the Jews are God's chosen people, but your garbage is way out of perspective. I don't think the idea of racial Judaism is nearly as important these days as you make it out to be. Judaism is a religion, not a secret sect bent on taking over the world. I think it is so laughable that people can look at the human race and think that conspiracies of this scope could be arranged, even if all the people accused agreed to it.

I would suggest strongly getting to know some Jewish people, sitting in on a synagog, maybe listening to someone besides nazi jew-haters. I can say without any hesitation that there is nothing Christian about your paranoid opinion of Jews.

The 1000 Year War Between Russia And The Khazars

Mordok do you search forums just to find the word "jew" or "israel" so you can post your little speech I bet thats what you do.
Marvin00 we will never reach peace as long as there are people in this world.

Mordok:

"It was Henry Ford's conclusion that very few of these people who called themselves "Jews" were descendants of the Bible Israelites."

Considering that absolutely anyone can become a Jew because being a Jew is not defined (by the Jews) as being a descendant of the Bible Israelites, this conclusion, if ever made, is hardly a scientific breakthrough. He could have simply asked a rabbi.


As for the plan, it can't work:

The only reason it could work in the 1980s was because Israel only had to pass Jordan and Jordan, having an interest in a non-nuclear neighboring Iraq, was able to believably claim that their airforce simply didn't detect any Israeli aircraft in their air space. The Americans and British in Iraq could not make such a claim and make it sound plausible. (And neither could Turkey.)

This is a highly undeveloped thesis, having grown stagnant years ago. This is a 'tell' and shows how sidereal such considerations are.

Ford's work was controversial for more than your reasoning even. It was more controversial, for the fact he funded the Nazis and was, in FACT, a Fascist. Ford betrayed his own Country in time of war. He could have been hanged. The controversy was why this guy continued to give aid and comfort and went unmolested on his way.

We're talking I.G. Farben, the Bayer, B.A.S.F.,Prestone, Krupp, Hearst, yes, even Ford. A group who conspired to delay delivery of contracts to U.S. as it sent produce out back door to Germany. While they gave Gemany anti-freeze,(which made explosives safe in production, a most hazardous static workplace till then) they denied it to America on patent trade agreements requiring non-disclosure.

And central to all of this Ford stuff, is the false blanket accusation and indictment of a race or people. The Jew is not the enemy of any God-fearing mortal. The Zionist is, but not the Jew. Jesus was a Jew my man. He's not part of the problem; Ford was.
This is not even mentioning the relationship of Harriman, Dulles, G.H.W.Bush,etc. It leads on to such revelations as 'Project PAPERCLIP', ANTI-American stuff one and all.
He has the right to be read, but Forget Ford's thesis as validating anything. Find some current and credible idea, Ford is out of date and dis-credited - and was defeated!

Ugh, less Nazis, more about the original post. Don't feed the troll.

I have never understood anti-semitism. It's just bizarre.

Is the Pope a Catholic?

Mordock: "Is the Pope a Catholic?"

Do bears crap in the woods? Is censorship really that bad of a thing? I'm thinking not on a case by case basis at this point.

I have never understood anti-semitism. It's just bizarre.

The primary reason that anti-semitism exists is to explain what holds anti-semites back from reaching some "greater destiny." The anti-semite is often convinced that, were it not for the Jews (you can substitute or add Catholics, African Americans, gays, orientals or any other group), he or she would reach some paradise in this world. Look at how Hitler appealed to the masses of Germany. Were it not for the Jews, Hitler said, the Aryan race would rule the world. Meanwhile, Stalin was preaching much the same cant in Russia. Both of them had to explain why their respective countries had failed to acheive success. Using anti-semitism was much easier than telling people that they had to work hard, study, save and work for a better world.

Back to the original topic under discussion, it would be a bad idea for the Israelis to bomb Iran. The world is a different place than when Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear facility. The uproar then would be nothing compared to the hue and cry over any such Israeli action. Israel can't even get support for responding to terrorists that set bombs off on crowded buses during rush hour. (As happened again this week. But, according to Reuters, there are no terrorist acts in Israel.)

Billions of dollars have been spent on anti-Israeli, pro-Palestinian public relations campaigns. And these campaigns have been effective.

Hmm, the quote didn't seem to work. The first part of my post was a quote form Brad's earlier post.

And thank you, Brad, for saying that.

Iran will fall into line in due time of it's own accord. Syria will soon become tired of living in fear as well. GCJ

Slavic Tribes Iranian in Background

The Alans, As Antes, Ros and Os are some of the names of Slavic tribes who moved across the Pontic Steppes. Historians have general agreement in ascribing Iranian background to them. "Of this Iranian stock there were various branches...of white Alans."

Russian Origins

Five Israelis were seen filming as jet liners ploughed into the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001

THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.

Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.

Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.

The origin of the "Five Israelis Blew Up the WTC" seems to be the September 11th, 2002 radio broadcast of Klu Klux Klansman and White Supremicist David Duke. See http://www.davidduke.com/radio/transcripts/oneyearlater911.htm David used the 1 year anniversary to harangue against the coming war against Iraq.
Apparently the "camera" was really a raygun of some kind, used to guide the planes or worse. When asked about the 130 Israelis that died in the attack, or the fact that some of the investment houses located in the World Trade Center (Goldman Sachs and Solomon Bros.) were owned by Jewish families, Mr. Duke cites a vast international conspiracy involving the CIA and Mossad.
He also explains in the same broadcast how Roosevelt arranged World War II.
Isn't America a great country? Anyone can get up on a soap-box and tell their theories.

Larry, I'm thinking Mordok isn't gonna be put off by Mr. Duke... he's probably a follower.

Iran just held free elections and selected new leadership. As I've said in my own blog, it is insanity for American to continue to mouth the policies of Israel. Israel is anathema to much of the world and it has chosen this path for itself. If they choose to bomb Iran it should have no relation to the United States.

War mongering is an ancient and barbaric practice, beneath the culture of the civilized. I am not ready to admit America is such a Nation at this point. We have no other interest in Iran than those we are told of by Israel and Britain. Israel is allowed the bomb without even acknowledging it exists so as to be exempt from accountability as all other nuclear nations are. We can't very well bomb Iran and cover up Israel's nukes and appear as anything but biased for Israel.

I just see no reason to bomb a sovereign State without provocation.

As to the 5 arrestees from Israel, there is a trail of stories on thier arrest and the hurried flight from the country by the owner of the business. The incident moved American intelligence to check out similar outfits across the country run by Israel. Israel, it must be noted, is one of the countries who warned America of the coming attack and it too was ignored by this Administration.

unlike you pussys i support the war for many reasons.

1. geting rid of a evil man.
2. improved economy.
3. life isnt fair
4. the strongest win.

Former German Defense Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11

Bush wont win a second term

Marvin why are you editing all of your boring articles and then not changing anything, so that they show up in the recent forum posts, Can't you get comments the normal way??

For anyone reading this later, The recent forum posts are all Marvin Cooley's. Very sad attention seeker - even worse than me!

MAXWELL!!!..........can't you ever say anything that makes sence?

Mordok............YOu are a moron.