My 2 cent's worth on pedophiles.

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Just my 2 cent's worth....

I think that it's getting to the point where we HAVE to start regarding these people as permanent dangers to society. There is no rehab for these dudes...chemical/surgical castration, whilst it takes away the physical means of comitting the crime, doesn't do anything to stem the thoughts and desires. Those are still there.

Many of these idiots can say that they're rehabilitated when they're in jail, but...there aren't any little kids there. They're out of temptation's way. It's a whole different game when they're back out on the streets, where they see kids playing or going to and from school on a daily basis.  There's a saying that a lot of 12-step programs use: 'If you don't want to get hit by a train, you don't go stand next to the railroad tracks'.  Releasing convicted child molestors and rapists into ANY community is like setting them down inches away from a railroad track.

I personally think they should either be executed or incarcerated for the rest of their lives. No chance of release, no parole, probation, nothing....the only way they should be let out of jail is toe-tagged and in a body bag. Alternatively, they could be institutionalized fir the rest of their natural lives.  Either way, they should never be released into the community again.

We OWE it our children, the next generation of Americans, to provide them with an environment that is relatively safe from these kiddie-rapists.  We don't owe these fucked-up bastards a damn thing.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
You're "preachin' to the choir" here, to me Dharma. Right now I only have one in custody. He is in his late forties and was convivted of having sex with a 12 year old! and repeatedly! He received 60 years, which means in Texas he has to do at least 30 before he is eligible for parole. What would strike you about him if you were to meet him is that he is just plain stupid. That's all. I think the Texas Department of Criminal Justice Institutional Division will make him a swell home.

good article, BTW...
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

Shovel: D's had a few incarcerated.  He's got one right, now actually.  He was already on the sex offender's registry...and that's about all I can say until he's been to trial.  Let's just say that if he's convicted, he's going to be incarcerated for a long, long time. 

People like your guy and D's dude are the perfect examples of the predators that need to be permanently removed from society.  They obviously cannot function, or else they wouldn't have re-offended.

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I am thinking ya drill a hole in their head ya insert a large spoon and stir.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
We don't owe these fucked-up bastards a damn thing.
modman? is that you?
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top

modman? is that you?

Bwahahahahahahaha!  Touche, Sir!

I am thinking ya drill a hole in their head ya insert a large spoon and stir

Lobotomies are another idea worth considering, yes....

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
People like your guy and D's dude are the perfect examples of the predators that need to be permanently removed from society. They obviously cannot function, or else they wouldn't have re-offended.


I have to agree with you Karen. It might seem heartless to some but when are the powers that be going to wake up and really do something about these people? They do repeat their offences no matter how much they might say they're sorry and they'll never do it again! Yeah right-nothing but bullshit!

It just sickens me and makes me angry that they get a second and third and fourth chance to mess up children's lives!
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
It might seem heartless to some but when are the powers that be going to wake up and really do something about these people? They do repeat their offences no matter how much they might say they're sorry and they'll never do it again!


Unfortunately sometimes the checks and balances that are in place to protect the truly innocent end up letting the guilty walk away.

However....that shouldn't happen as often as it does. People in public office just cannot afford to 'drop the ball' the way they have been...
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
modman? is that you?

Bwahahahahahahaha! Touche, Sir!


glad ya took it in the spirit offered. I laughed as I typed that myself.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm curious as to what controls you would suggest to keep the innocent and wrongfully accused men and women from being executed or castrated? I hear what you're saying and I agree with much of what you say. But as long as there are women and sometimes children who maliciously accuse someone of molestation or rape (for these events have happened in the past and will undoubtably happen again) then you're suggestion will surely lead to men having their balls cut off for no reason. What safeguards could be put in place for your suggestion to suceed? While it's important to protect future generations of children from pedophiles, it's also important to pass on the concept of a just and fair society as well. Therein lies the balancing act, the dancing on the head of a pin.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
9 by Reiki-House
Wednesday, July 06, 2005


I'm curious as to what controls you would suggest to keep the innocent and wrongfully accused men and women from being executed or castrated? I hear what you're saying and I agree with much of what you say. But as long as there are women and sometimes children who maliciously accuse someone of molestation or rape (for these events have happened in the past and will undoubtably happen again) then you're suggestion will surely lead to men having their balls cut off for no reason. What safeguards could be put in place for your suggestion to suceed? While it's important to protect future generations of children from pedophiles, it's also important to pass on the concept of a just and fair society as well. Therein lies the balancing act, the dancing on the head of a pin.


wow reiki you are being down right reasonable, asking good questions, polite. OK who are you? bahahahahahah


get convicted once for rape or child molesting, go to jail, forever.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
get convicted once for rape or child molesting, go to jail, forever.


Oh, come on. Even the conservatives won't go for that.

I mean is there anyone who thinks the police departments or the court systems are infallible? Or equal?

Even if an innocent man gets convicted, he at least has the notion of getting out.

Also, ALL types of rape? That will also be an interesting sell.

IG
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top

I have to wonder, and I honestly dont know the answer, if the frequency has picked up, or just the reporting.  It sure seems like there are a ton more Polly Klaas' now.  Is that because we know more?  Or there are more.

That does not change the gist of your article, but I wonder.

Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm curious as to what controls you would suggest to keep the innocent and wrongfully accused men and women from being executed or castrated?


What are the checks and balances that are already in place in the justice system? 'Proof beyond reasonable doubt'; DNA, confessions, admissions....

I'm not advocating permanent incarceration for first time offenders. I am, however, advocating it for people who cannot, and who have shown that they cannot, function in society. The people Shovel and I were talking about are both repeat offenders - THOSE are the kind of people who I'm saying should be permanently institutionalized.


I mean is there anyone who thinks the police departments or the court systems are infallible? Or equal?

Even if an innocent man gets convicted, he at least has the notion of getting out.


Not if he's been given the death penalty he doesn't.

Of course the judicial system isn't infallible...but we still allow people found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to be executed. Why not do the same for repeat sex offenders? Except we won't be executing them, simply putting them somewhere where they can't harm anyone else.

I do think that we need to take a hard look at the current sex offender laws though. That some 18 year old can be made to register as a sex offender for having consensual sex with his 17 yr and 11 month old girlfriend, putting him on a par with some pervert who gets his kicks raping little boys is...well, wrong.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think a level 3 sex offender should be either commited for life or put to death. With the current Idaho case with the two little ones, it makes me want to fire the first shot at the guy.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
get convicted once for rape or child molesting, go to jail, forever.


Oh, come on. Even the conservatives won't go for that.

I mean is there anyone who thinks the police departments or the court systems are infallible? Or equal?

Even if an innocent man gets convicted, he at least has the notion of getting out.

Also, ALL types of rape? That will also be an interesting sell.


Awww hell, lets just stick their head in a microwave oven and turn it on. Run it till you hear a "pop", ding. All done.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
11 by InfoGeek
Wednesday, July 06, 2005


get convicted once for rape or child molesting, go to jail, forever.


Oh, come on. Even the conservatives won't go for that.

I mean is there anyone who thinks the police departments or the court systems are infallible? Or equal?

Even if an innocent man gets convicted, he at least has the notion of getting out.

Also, ALL types of rape? That will also be an interesting sell.

IG


many people convicted of crimes are getting out, because of dna, dna does not lie, get dna convicted, go to prison.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
This is why I think we really need to return to penal colonies for lifers. Give these individuals an opportunity to contribute what they can to society, but in the confines of a separate world where they have no realistic chance of escape. There is no doubt these people are truly SICK, and I am loathe to be a part of a society that executes people for a sickness, but I wholeheartedly endorse a society that protects sick people from themselves and their potential victims, and when that sickness is incurable, as it is generally regarded to be as regards pedophiles, to extend such protection as long as that sick person continues to live.