Yes, The US DID Use Napalm in Iraq

The Truth About It

Ok, a recent article by one of the more hateful and very much anti-US members stated that the US violated the law by using napalm in Iraq. Instead of responding on that member's blog, as I don't post any comments on that person't blog as I consider that person a hate monger and less than credible, I thought I would research it myself and present some real facts without the obvious spin and absurd lies that were added to the story.

First of all, yes it's true. the US did use napalm. Secondly, it wasn't in violation of any laws in spite of what our friendly neighborhood hate monger would like us to believe to the contrary.

"A 1980 UN convention banned the use against civilian targets of napalm, a terrifying mixture of jet fuel and polystyrene that sticks to skin as it burns. The US, which did not sign the treaty, is one of the few countries that makes use of the weapon."

The treaty, which the US didn't sign bans the use of napalm against civilians. Notice it says nothing about being banned against enemy troops?

"American pilots dropped the controversial incendiary agent napalm on Iraqi troops during the advance on Baghdad. The attacks caused massive fireballs that obliterated several Iraqi positions"

"The upgraded weapon, which uses kerosene rather than petrol, was used in March and April, when dozens of napalm bombs were dropped near bridges over the Saddam Canal and the Tigris river, south of Baghdad.

"We napalmed both those [bridge] approaches," said Colonel James Alles, commander of Marine Air Group 11. "Unfortunately there were people there ... you could see them in the [cockpit] video. They were Iraqi soldiers"

"A reporter from the Sydney Morning Herald who witnessed another napalm attack on 21 March on an Iraqi observation post at Safwan Hill, close to the Kuwaiti border, wrote the following day: "Safwan Hill went up in a huge fireball and the observation post was obliterated. 'I pity anyone who is in there,' a Marine sergeant said. 'We told them to surrender.'"

Hmmm, imagine that. Our military is using weapons to kill enemy troops.

Ok, now for some of the rest of the story. Yes, the Pentagon did in fact originally deny using napalm.

"The Pentagon said it had not tried to deceive. It drew a distinction between traditional napalm, first invented in 1942, and the weapons dropped in Iraq, which it calls Mark 77 firebombs. They weigh 510lbs, and consist of 44lbs of polystyrene-like gel and 63 gallons of jet fuel.

Officials said that if journalists had asked about the firebombs their use would have been confirmed. A spokesman admitted they were "remarkably similar" to napalm but said they caused less environmental damage.

Ok, they were splitting hairs in an obvious PR move. It was a mistake they shouldn't have made for obvious reasons. But it still does not constitute "war crimes" or the use of any illegal weapons.

Once again someone takes a true story and twists the facts, adds some ourageous rhetoric, and seasons liberally (pun intended) with lies.

It only took a little googling to come up with several news stories from around the world that contained all of the information I have presented here, both good and bad, without the absurd anti-US lies and rhetoric to go with it.
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The anti US side just loves to overblow a story! Unfortunately, with the hair splitting the government does, sometimes they make it all too easy for the haters of freedom to make the U.S. look bad.

Thank you for bringing the truth out.
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No problem Ted, nothing like a few facts to take the wind out of the sails of a...let's say, less than factual story.
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how about some nice Ivory snow flakes, 9944/100% pure mixed lovingly with some plain ordinary white gas then dropped on the heads of the anti us crowd, thats not napalm or a firebomb, just some love from me to them.
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Actually that works quite well. Nothing like a little home chemistry
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Excellent article, Mason.

I didn't read the article you're refuting because the author doesn't provide courtesy paragraph breaks to make his writing readable and he's generally belligerent and rarely, if ever, factual in his writing.

I have mixed feelings about our use of Napalm. I don't like the idea of using Napalm because it seems like an incredibly cruel tactic, and I would loathe to see something like this used on our own troops.

However, I'm no military strategist, and far be it from me to condemn legal military methods those in command feel are appropriate in a given situation.

Ok, they were splitting hairs in an obvious PR move. It was a mistake they shouldn't have made for obvious reasons.


This is a problem that Americans have to watch for (and it's not limited to the Bush Whitehouse)...we wouldn't allow that type of lying or misleading information from our children or our spouses, and we certainly shouldn't condone or accept it from our government.

Again, excellent article, Mason. Thank you for taking the time to research the facts and for offering them in a very even-handed, unbiased manner.
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Thanks TW, I'm the first to admit that our country is far from perfect, but I don't like to see such obviously twisted stories from hate-filled people without a shred of honesty.

As far as the use of napalm, as long as it's used against enemy soldiers and not civilians, I don't see much difference between that and dropping other bombs on them. Most are killed instantly, just like "normal" bombs, some aren't, just like "normal" bombs. They are used as much for psychological effect to demoralize the enemy as anything. And they work in that regard.
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when you're sitting on a jury and you're presented with testimony that is demonstrated to be intentionally evasive--say something along the lines of 'i didnt cut anyone with a buck knife'--would you be more likely to question that person's veracity?

how about if the testimony included more than a single instance of that kinda nonsense?


i'd be likely to conclude the reason for such equivocation was to try to mislead the jury and minimize or mitigate culpability.
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when you're sitting on a jury and you're presented with testimony that is demonstrated to be intentionally evasive--say something along the lines of 'i didnt cut anyone with a buck knife'--would you be more likely to question that person's veracity?

how about if the testimony included more than a single instance of that kinda nonsense?


i'd be likely to conclude the reason for such equivocation was to try to mislead the jury and minimize or mitigate culpability.


True Kingbee, but if the jury was made up of people who have all shown that they are in bed with the prosecution against you, how forthcoming would you be?

The press are the bed buddies of the terrorists. They have shown time and time again that their allegiences lie with those they call "freedom fighters".

While I don't like the political doublespeak of any administration, the press uses their own double speak when they figure bare facts won't do.

Face it, politicians, press and even bloggers are going to do what they can to say what they want people to hear.

Was Napalm used? Not technically, but something awfully close. Was a war crime commited? NO, and that is the real question here.
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kingbee: you'll note that nowhere did I say that the Pentagon was correct in not admitting up front that these firebombs were used, quite the opposite in fact.

It's really irrelevant to the article anyway as the issue is that they were used legally, not in violation of any international laws as the "other" version of the story flatly claimed.
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They have shown time and time again that their allegiences lie with those they call "freedom fighters".


if you're referring to the iraqi insurgents (not the term i woulda chosen if i'd been given the job of coming up with one-word descriptor for them) i dont believe i've seen anyone callin them anything close to freedom fighters.

i know you gotta thing about journalists so i'm guessing youll be able to provide some examples of bona-fide professional news people who express or even hint at allegiance or sympathy for terrorists (like network correspondants or reporters employed by any big city or national publication-other the guy who wrote the newsweek thing).
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kingbee: you'll note that nowhere did I say that the Pentagon was correct in not admitting up front that these firebombs were used, quite the opposite in fact


duly noted. my comment was inspired by what i perceive to be several years of this sorta hair-splitting (which is the kindest term that comes to mind). for as much as yall go on and on about the arrogance of the left, the thing that really frosts my ass about about the adminstration is my perception, based on exactly that kinda 'aint i too cute' equivocation, they think everyone in this country--especially me--is so blind, stupid and easily scammed.
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i know you gotta thing about journalists so i'm guessing youll be able to provide some examples of bona-fide professional news people who express or even hint at allegiance or sympathy for terrorists (like network correspondants or reporters employed by any big city or national publication-other the guy who wrote the newsweek thing).


That is why I put "freedom fighters" in quotes. Glad you caught the double speak I used (ever so stealthily). Afterall, I did point out that, along with politicians and the press, "bloggers" are not above a little double speak ourselves.

Truth be known, the only time I've ever seen the term "freedom fighters" used in connection with the terrorists were bloggers.

See my point now? ;~D
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Personally i really don't care(well, as long as it got rid of terrorists, and few or no innocents...[war kills so...]) pfft...its almost 1 am here...Ciao everyone!
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"f you're referring to the iraqi insurgents (not the term i woulda chosen if i'd been given the job of coming up with one-word descriptor for them) i dont believe i've seen anyone callin them anything close to freedom fighters. "


Actually today I saw them referred to as "rebels" in the LA Times. Not sure if that was a holdover from the wire service or something that orginated there, but said it they did.
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Here is the article I saw:

U.S., Rebels in Iraq Talking


Not earthshattering, but it is the first time I have heard them referred to as such by a major publication.
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Rebels? Maybe they were talking about the terrorists in Southern Iraq!! ;~D
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is the first time I have heard them referred to as such by a major publication.


the washington times ran a frontpage story on September 8, 2004 titled: "Rumsfeld: Iran aids rebels". it also appears as if syndicated coverage of his remarks on sunday was headlined all over the place with: 'Iraqis may fight rebels for years, says Rumsfeld'

rebel is less positive than insurgent (which carries with it the connotation of patriotic resistance); the difference is that rebels are sorta low-rent insurgents who may or may not be working towards the best interest of anyone but themselves.

insurgency implies a unified enterprise whereas rebels may or may not be working in concert with other groups of rebels (as is the case in colombia).

i get the sense 'insurgent' is used by iraqi government and coalition officials to refer to iraqi nationals, while foreign fighters are more often considered to be islamic fanatics, militants and terrorists.

had it been my call, i woulda gone with renegades which is less positive than either rebel or insurgent.
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Excellent Article.  As for the equivocation, I guess I do understand it.  If they were to tell the truth (usually) the press would run with it and many more americans would die.  So they have learned how to speak the truth, without revealing anymore than absolutely necessary.

Remember Falujah, and how the press was so pissed that they were not given the time table of the operation?  Would you tell those clowns anything that you did not have to?

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The reason I link to this article in my favorites on my site is for everybody to make up their own mind on what to think of this. The author has
done good research work, relaying FACTS still LEGAL?, while people think this is a Vietnam mistake you should forget about by now
just like germans want you to forget about Nazi crimes committed by their ancestors. Now to all my german neighbors out there where I live,
I AM still a US citizen ONLY so GERMAN or US armies dont draft me, which they cant since 1972, unless theres a big conventional war.
You germans find it cool still to be drafted or do underpaid civil work, while americans wont let you take off your bikini, drink or vote before
youre drafted. No country seems much better than the other. In the german state of Hessen, with skyscrapers in Frankfurt, etc. death penalty is
still legal as far as state law is concerned, but not executed because Federal law breaks state law, as lawyers call it here. No Frankfurt broker
wearing a tie knows about this and scorns americans for death penalty - another topic not to talk about too long.

Hope Im not soldier x one day inventing weapons like this so soldier y wont kill my country first.
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A lie is A lie no matter who spews it, be it bush or the left.

Now having said that bush lies get much more press than leftylies.
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duly noted. my comment was inspired by what i perceive to be several years of this sorta hair-splitting (which is the kindest term that comes to mind). for as much as yall go on and on about the arrogance of the left, the thing that really frosts my ass about about the adminstration is my perception, based on exactly that kinda 'aint i too cute' equivocation, they think everyone in this country--especially me--is so blind, stupid and easily scammed.

I understand what you're saying, but let's be honest here. When was the last time we've had an administration that didn't "split hairs", withhold information of some sort, or outright lie about some issues? If you're even reasonably honest you have to admit that all of them operate in this manner. And that, to me, is the real problem regardless of who's in office.

And it isn't just our less than honest politicians either. The media is also guilty of presenting less than honest, straightforward facts. They often intentionally choose certain words or phrases to put a spin on the facts, downplay things that don't represent their views, and at times are guilty of actually fabricating "facts". What ever happened to the idea of journalism?

As MM said, " A lie is A lie no matter who spews it,", and I agree completely. I would be all for a Constitutional amendment forbiding anyone in an elected or appointed government position from lieing to the people or misrepresenting the facts to the people. Of course that would put a lot of politicians out of work.

I would also love to see just one news media outlet dedicate itself to reporting FACTS without any sort of political or editorial bias whatsoever. Wouldn't that be refreshing?
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would also love to see just one news media outlet dedicate itself to reporting FACTS without any sort of political or editorial bias whatsoever. Wouldn't that be refreshing?


Yes it would be refreshing. Unfortunately it will NEVER happen!
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I would also love to see just one news media outlet dedicate itself to reporting FACTS without any sort of political or editorial bias whatsoever. Wouldn't that be refreshing?


Heh. I'd love to see one news outlet report on something that is currently taking place (which we can see on the screen behind the talking head) and not hem and haw around the subject by using the word "allegedly".

That all goes back to the "can't report the facts, someone might actually take us literally" attitude that is too prevalent.
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I do not know which article you refer. It is not clear to me. Surely you will agfree on: Proposition 1 There are no WMD in Iraq. Proposition 2:USA and UK waged war on patently false grounds. Proposition 3: The civillian casualities of this War are beyond acceptable limits and USA diduse banned chemiczals in several ares even in civilians sectors. Proposition 4:The violence in Iraq and the abuse of human rights both byu the USA, and the insurgents is breaking the fabric of Iraqi society. Proposition 5: The war is not helping the Iraqis and is only hurting the USA more.