Now I have heard everything! 'Experts' say that society is making it too hard on sex offenders!  Ahhhhhh, those poor souls!

What a bunch of garbage!  Did they have pity or sympathy for their victims?  No way!  They are lukcy to be out of jail!  If they feel that picked on, they can go back to jail!  We will give them a free pass too just so that our children and relatives will be safe from these cancers of society.

With all the victims of crime in our society, with all the victims of acts of violence, accidents and bad luck, why are these so called experts worrying about a bunch of cretins who brought their own punishment upon themselves!

These experts are worse than stupid.  They are morons!

Let us all have a pity pat party for the persecuted sex offenders! NOT.

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For those who do not want to register, the article is below.

Pushing Sex Offenders May Increase Dangers

By MICHAEL HILL
Associated Press Writer

10:46 AM PDT, June 20, 2005

ALBANY, N.Y. — The clamps are coming down on released sex offenders like never before. But some experts wonder sex offenders are being pushed so far to the fringes that they could actually become more dangerous to society.

Laws restrict where they can live, Web sites list their names, satellites track their steps. Neighbors and bosses force them from their homes and jobs.

The tightening of restrictions around the country comes after several recent slayings of children, allegedly by released sex offenders. The crackdown is aimed at protecting youngsters.

Some researchers and treatment providers say that sex offenders are finding it harder to maintain homes and jobs and establish stable lives for themselves.

"I would rather have someone who has committed a sex offense be going to work every day, come home tired, have a sense of well-being that comes from having a regular paycheck and a safe home, as opposed to having a sex offender who has a lot of free time on his hands," said Richard Hamill, president of the New York State Alliance of Sex Offender Service Providers. "You tell me: Who is at a greater risk of reoffending?"

Sex offenders have always been pariahs. But it has become harder for them to slip back quietly into communities since states began adopting versions of Megan's Law a decade ago. The laws, named for Megan Kanka, a 7-year-old New Jersey girl who was killed by a neighbor in 1994, created public registries of convicted sex offenders.

In a study published this year, researchers surveyed 183 sex offenders in Florida and found 27 percent said they lost a job because a boss or co-workers found out about their crime, 20 percent had to move from their home because a landlord found out, 15 percent had to leave after neighbors complained, and 33 percent were threatened or harassed by neighbors.

"I feel trapped in living where I do," one of those surveyed said.

Another said: "I welcome an early death."

Co-author Jill Levenson, a professor at Lynn University in Florida, said "psychosocial stresses" have been linked to repeat offenses among criminals. Advocates fear the recent tightening of restrictions could add to their stress.

Some states now track selected sex offenders by global positioning satellite. After a registered sex offender was accused of killing a 9-year-old girl in Florida, the state passed a law requiring certain child molesters to submit to a lifetime of satellite tracking. Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm has said she wants state lawmakers to set up 1,000-foot "predator-free zones" around schools.

Earlier this month, Miami Beach, Fla., all but banned child molesters from moving there, adopting an ordinance barring them from living within 2,500 feet of schools, school bus stops, day care centers, parks or playgrounds.

A Houston-based company started offering subscribers "sex offender movement alerts" sent to their cell phones or e-mail to keep track of registered offenders in California, Texas and Florida. Six Flags announced it reserves the right to keep sex offenders out of its amusement parks.

Is it going too far?

Maureen Kanka, who became an advocate for Megan's Laws after her daughter's slaying, said she sees the value in a balanced approach to dealing with sex offenders that includes treatment. But she said that providing information about offenders' whereabouts -- whether through registries or tracking devices -- should be the No. 1 priority.

"We have to provide that safety net for the public," she said.

Christopher Uggen, a professor of sociology at the University of Minnesota, noted that "sex offender" is a broad term that can include both a child molester and an 18-year-old with a 15-year-old girlfriend.

Uggen and Levenson said sweeping laws that treat all classes of offenders equally might not be the best way to protect the public. Limited public dollars would be better spent on targeting the most dangerous offenders, Levenson said.

"I don't think that we really earn that much with these blanket, one-size-fits-all policies," Levenson said. "They're going to be over-inclusive in some ways and not enough in other ways."

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I can only pray that they all die in their sleep. That way the persecution will stop and they can dwell in eternal damnation.
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. sorry double post
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I just wonder how the "poor sex monsters" would feel with some moderateman justice, ya take a broom handle and bang in about 6 nails going in the wrong direction so it slips nice and smooth in the butt, then ya twist it and yank.


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can only pray that they all die in their sleep. That way the persecution will stop

Now that is a noble thought!  Maybe we should help them, or hire Kervorkian to be their sleep advisers?

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I just wonder how the "poor sex monsters" would feel with some moderateman justice, ya take a broom handle and bang in about 6 nails going in the wrong direction so it slips nice and smooth in the butt, then ya twist it and yank.

I think they use those things to gig for frogs down in the bayous!

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#6 by Dr. Guy
Wednesday, June 22, 2005


think they use those things to gig for frogs down in the bayous


Oh my God the poor french.
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Oh my God the poor french.

But them frog legs sure are tasty!

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What's such BS is that sex offenders are even allowed out of prison! Seriously! It's as if the bleeding hearts want these people to rape and molest more victims!
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They are allowed out because our sex offender laws are patently flawed. An 18 year old who makes a bad choice and goes too far with his 16 year-old girlfriend should not be imprisoned for life or branded with a scarlet letter.

In order to really address this, we need specific laws with specific punishment, and specific labelling. I don't want some poor guy who didn't realize the prostitute he picked up was 17 instead of 18 to be branded in the same way as someone who sodomizes small children.

One should pay for his crime and move on. The other shouldn't move on at all.
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These morons seem to forget why all of these control laws have been enacted in the first place. It wasn't because these sick human predators would be "going to work every day, come home tired, have a sense of well-being that comes from having a regular paycheck and a safe home..."
It's because they continued to prey on their victims and stricter controls needed to be enacted to make it a little more difficult for them to operate in the anonymity they need to commit their twisted crimes.
Normally I am opposed to wanton violence, but these sick puppies (and the goofy morons who come up with these "poor criminal" ideas) really make me want to rethink stoning people in public.
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What's such BS is that sex offenders are even allowed out of prison! Seriously! It's as if the bleeding hearts want these people to rape and molest more victims!

If they have served their term, there is not really much choice in that area.

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They are allowed out because our sex offender laws are patently flawed. An 18 year old who makes a bad choice and goes too far with his 16 year-old girlfriend should not be imprisoned for life or branded with a scarlet letter.

In order to really address this, we need specific laws with specific punishment, and specific labelling. I don't want some poor guy who didn't realize the prostitute he picked up was 17 instead of 18 to be branded in the same way as someone who sodomizes small children.

No, what we need is common sense.  The scenerio you dscribe is one of poor judgement and should get a slap on the wrist.  The chronic ones are the ones that need to be put away for life.  And we need jurists and DAs that know the difference.

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Normally I am opposed to wanton violence, but these sick puppies (and the goofy morons who come up with these "poor criminal" ideas) really make me want to rethink stoning people in public.

The sick puppies are one thing.  The clowns who make them poor criminals are really the arseholes here.

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You can't rule a nation on common sense. I'm sure Barbara Streisand's "common sense" is very different than mine. We need narrowly defined laws, and not the discretion of judges who sit on their bench for life like Solomon, handing out their own ideas of morality.
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You can't rule a nation on common sense. I'm sure Barbara Streisand's "common sense" is very different than mine. We need narrowly defined laws, and not the discretion of judges who sit on their bench for life like Solomon, handing out their own ideas of morality.

I agree, if you dont write it down today, you'll be faced with the same problem in about a decade.
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You can't rule a nation on common sense. I'm sure Barbara Streisand's "common sense" is very different than mine. We need narrowly defined laws, and not the discretion of judges who sit on their bench for life like Solomon, handing out their own ideas of morality.


But that is exactly what the founding fathers gave Judges. They have the ability to hand out slaps on the wrist or harsh sentences.

Congress cannot apply laws selectively, but the judiciary does (for the most part) have that capability. And the denial of that use is myopic.
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Penal colonies, penal colonies, penal colonies.

Sex offenders are monsters who must be removed from society, for their own protection as much as for that of their potential victims. But there must be an outlet for those who are sentenced to life behind bars to be productive members of society...even if their society IS a cloistered society in the middle of a barren wasteland (my vote is for someplace in Alaska more than 200 miles removes from civilization...the only way in or out is through the air and all prisoners are locked down for prisoner transfers in).

Oddly enough, I feel some measure of empathy (NOT sympathy) for the individuals who have such a monstrous compulsion. But my empathy does not and CANNOT override my prevailing sense of the need for justice so that the victims can begin the never ending process of healing. Knowing that these monsters are confined to a cage, where they belong, is a good start.
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"Congress cannot apply laws selectively, but the judiciary does (for the most part) have that capability. And the denial of that use is myopic."


On the contrary. Judges sentence within the guidelines they are given by the Legislative branch. They are held to the minimum and maximum.

Justice is supposed to be blind, remember? That doesn't mean everyone gets the same penalty regardless of the heinousness of the crime. It means that judges shouldn't sit like solomon on the bench and hand out arbitrary subjective rulings. For that reason, we need laws that definitively define crimes and penalties.

Congress CAN apply laws "selectively" by making the laws more definitive. Someone who makes a mistake with his girlfriend doesn't need to be blindly slapped with "sex offender" status, and no judge should be allowed to do it just because they are more prudish than the judge in the next court over.

The sex offender laws we have are broad, and give too much power to the subjective whims of the courts. For that reason, we find it diffult to lay the heaviest hand on the worst ones, because we will damn the ones who don't deserve it.

I think the old San Fransisco Circuit court would love your view on this Doc. It pretty much makes them unelected kings of our domain.
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Penal colonies, penal colonies, penal colonies.


That is not a bad idea. A measure of freedom, yet isolation from the rest of society.
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how about one big super prison, for terrorist, rapist and child molesters? mix em together, let them work out there own problems..


mm stands back and waits for blood to squirt from bleeding hearts.
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On the contrary. Judges sentence within the guidelines they are given by the Legislative branch. They are held to the minimum and maximum.


You just agreed with me while not agreeing with me. They can sentence to the maximum, or the minimum. They can even set the verdict aside. They can exercise common sense.
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Penal colonies, penal colonies, penal colonies.


That is not a bad idea. A measure of freedom, yet isolation from the rest of society.

Good idea. We aren't using the moon for anything. Put them there. oops, sorry guys, we forgot to send air.
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how about one big super prison, for terrorist, rapist and child molesters? mix em together, let them work out there own problems..


right, mm...I still think my penal colony idea in Alaska is workable.

The way I see it, there are two classes of criminals: Those who will be eventually released and those who won't. The two groups should be segregated to improve chances of rehabilitation among those who will be released (and lessen the chance of escape among those who won't...more open doors means greater potential for escape).

My scenario would be a colony where an ankle bracelet with GPS and an explosive device is attached to the convict's leg. The only way in or out is through the air, and prisoners are locked down during transfers, which take place once a week at unannounced times. If the convict still somehow manages to leave the perimeter, the explosive device is set off and the convict becomes hamburger. Inside the penal colony, though, they can basically self govern beyond certain laws that are imposed to maintain order.

But the liberals would whine about this.
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how about one big super prison, for terrorist, rapist and child molesters? mix em together, let them work out there own problems..

Just ake sure you dont get Danny Most who made out with Betty Jones who was only 16 at the time.