Democrats? Not in my Church!!!

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Alright, we're in North Carolina, where a pastor at a Baptist church has told his congregation that he expects them to sign forms stating that they agree with his political and moral views. If not, they can kindly go worship somewhere else. After 9 parishioners walk out, the remainder of the congregation votes to expel them from the church entirely.

This nation is so united, it almost brings a tear to your eye.

The pastor says that he's going to give political sermons, and if some members of the congregation don't like it, they can leave. That's all fine and good, except for one thing: It's a CHURCH!!! You're going to give political sermons? What about giving religious sermons? Do you remember that part of your job? You want to give political sermons, run for office! Invite people over for dinner and tell them who to vote for then. Write an editorial to the newspaper. Take out a full page ad. Donate money.

But keep it out of the church.

I hope this idiot gets run out of town.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's downright sickening ain't it?

Have you ever seen that commercial on TV where the people are waiting to get into church and they have these two big doormen and a velvet rope in front of the door denying entry based on color, orientation, and political affiliation?

I think this asshole thought it was a good idea.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, considering the minister of a Baptist congregation is hired by a board made up of members of the congregation, majority rules.

While the line between politics and religion is sometimes fuzzy where some moral issues are concerned, to paint an entire political party as "immoral" and tell them their not welcome in church is a bit extreme.

I mean, I know individuals who are shortsighted enough to express their feelings that others "don't belong" in church, but for the leaders to make it policy is absurd.

I think it's getting pretty close to the time I introduce my story of Bro. Newport to JU. Probably early this week. Seems like it's a fitting story for the times.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Definitely time to find another church. We left a church in Vegas here around election time because all we heard was that we should vote for President Bush.

I *DID* vote for him...but I don't go to church to hear about who I should vote for. I go to church to gain more wisdom about God and Jesus and how to be a better person in Christ and to gain wisdom so I *CAN* go out there and choose who will be the best leader for our country.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Even if I agreed with this so-called minster's political views, I'd still quit that church.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
This kind of stuff has to be one of the biggest things keeping me from church (aside from near-militant atheism). It's nice knowing that I'm not welcome because I'm an L-word
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
How utterly ridiculous. Next thing you'll have politicians giving speeches about religion!
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
while i have no love for the irs...
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Next thing you'll have politicians giving speeches about religion


I thought we already did.

He thinks this is what a loving God wants? He thinks this is what America means?

If this is an example of the right's tolerance, I'm glad I'm an intolerant lefty. We are intolerant with bullshit. We are intolerant with those responsible for the bullshit. Shouldn't everybody be?
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
If this is an example of the right's tolerance, I'm glad I'm an intolerant lefty. We are intolerant with bullshit. We are intolerant with those responsible for the bullshit. Shouldn't everybody be?


While I'm not going to argue that this isn't a great example of the intolerance of the right, The Rev Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton are proof that the left is not without it's slingers of religious based, political BS.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
The Rev Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton are proof that the left is not without it's slingers of religious based, political BS.


I can't stand either of them. Jackson forced NASCAR to pay him a lot of money by complaining that there aren't any black drivers in Winston Cup. He used political correctness and played on the fears of white people of being called racist. And since most people involved in stock car racing are southern crackers, they were an easy target.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I dont think Jesse would turn away someone based on their politics...Al on the other hand....
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top

I read this story over the weekend and was wondering if anyone would write about it.  I feel sorry for the members of the congregation, but I think it is just stupid and funny.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face, guess they just did!

Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
what an idiot. and he's supposed to be speaking for God? the selection for who makes it into heaven is getting to be very limited, isn't it? well, this is just another thing to add to the list of how america is becoming completely and totally corrupt. sucks, doesn't it?
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
THE PREACHER HAS RESIGNED!
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top

THE PREACHER HAS RESIGNED!

I dont think the Preacher was right for 'shunning' the nine members, but this is a case of 'be careful what you wish for, you just may get it'.

I think those nine members might as well resign as well.  I doubt the rest of the congregation is going to be very christian towards them for this action.

In the end, it is the Pastor's fault.  But it would have been better if the pastor stayed and worked to heal the wounds he caused.  Instead, the congregation has a huge gash that will not heal quickly.

Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
THE PREACHER HAS RESIGNED!


Thank God. Ha! Punny.

In the end, it is the Pastor's fault. But it would have been better if the pastor stayed and worked to heal the wounds he caused. Instead, the congregation has a huge gash that will not heal quickly.


I don't know. I wouldn't want the guy who shot extracting the bullet.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top

I don't know. I wouldn't want the guy who shot extracting the bullet.

Me either.  But now the rest of the congregation is going to be very resentful of the 9 for making him resign.  The only person in this case who could have cured the sin, was the sinner.

Now, they will be lucky to remain neighbors and friends.  I dont see them remaining members for very long.

Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think that this guy needs to take a hard look at the problems he caused. Until he realizes the damage he caused, he shouldnt be behind the pulpit.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Now, they will be lucky to remain neighbors and friends. I dont see them remaining members for very long.


As I understood it, they are no longer members. Weren't they voted out? I think regardless of the preacher, the ties had already been severed.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
The thing is, the church's tax exempt standing may be in jeopardy. What the pastor did was illegal.

We have a standing policy that if even a dime of our church's budget is allocated to activist groups like the Christian Coalition, we will not continue attending that church. The church should not be dictating politics.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Lawmaker Hopes to Open Churches to Political SpeechLink
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Separation of church and state means nothing anymore.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top

Separation of church and state means nothing anymore.

It never did.

Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
The funny thing about that law they're trying to pass allowing political speech in churches and political actions on church money is that they're arguing over their constitutional right to free speach... which is great and everything. There's in fact no law prohibiting such speech or use of resources, all there is, is a law saying if you do it, you lose your tax-exempt status.

Last I checked, being tax exempt wasn't a constitutional right...