What If We Did Not Have The Bible?

Thy Word Is A Lamp Unto My Feet ... A Light Unto My Path

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Psalm 12:6-7
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

The Word of God; how sweet it's words and how true. It has existed from generation to generation. Many have attempted to thwart it's truth and it's power. Imagine, what if we did not have the Word of God?

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Another religion would fill the void
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Another religion would fill the void


A religion with no value, do you think?
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Then God would have seen fit to give us his word in some other form. As it is, people look upon the book with idolotrous passion. Anything man-made shouldn't be set upon the level of God, and the Bible we have today has been passed from fallible hand to fallible hand for thousands of years before it has reached us.

To say that hearsay words set down in paper and ink are somehow divine makes an idol of a book. God's word is in there, for anyone to see, of that I am certain. What is valid, and what is the witness and devises of religious men, on the other hand, is for the reader to discern through their relationship with God. The written word of God can lead us to discover a relationship with Him, but to sublimate that relationship in foavor of paper and ink is wrong.

I know you will disagree with this preacherman, but I felt compelled to express my beliefs. When people relinquish the guidance of their souls to books and the men that interpret them, they have turned away from God in favor or of the fallible.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
The crusades would have never happened.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
= World Peace
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
A religion with no value, do you think?


no value? I've lost you


= World Peace


I know this isn't exactly PC, and I'm probably not supposed to say this, but we would probably be better off without religion.

"Religion is the opiate of the masses" -Karl Marx
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
""Religion is the opiate of the masses" -Karl Marx"


Ah, and the wisdom of Marx has done SO much for the world... *chuckle*...
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ah, and the wisdom of Marx has done SO much for the world... *chuckle*...


Considering people rather wage war because of ideological and religious beliefs than cooperate, of course it hasn't. How long has this war with the Muslims and Christians been going on? 2000 years? Don't you know laughing at your own joke is a faux pas?
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ah, and the wisdom of Marx has done SO much for the world... *chuckle*...


4 words: Stalin f*cked everything up
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
"Don't you know laughing at your own joke is a faux pas?"


Sure, but I was laughing at the idea that anyone could still quote Marx as though the ideas had some sort of intellectual authority...

"4 words: Stalin f*cked everything up"


Mmm, convenient idea, but in reality we have tons of examples of how broken Marxist thought really is. Well, basically every attempt at its application that I can think of...
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I know you will disagree with this preacherman, but I felt compelled to express my beliefs. When people relinquish the guidance of their souls to books and the men that interpret them, they have turned away from God in favor or of the fallible


You are correct bakerstreet, I do disagree with you but I can understand the reason. You think that you can trust you heart over the clear teaching of God's Word. You do not realize that the heart is decietful above all things and desperatly wicked. You have never come to the "Spiritual" understanding that you can't even know your own heart.... it will deceive you.

The reason you don not have a clear Spiritual understanding of God's Word because you think it is up to man's wisdom to distort the truth God has preserved from generation to generation. You know the Word's of God are pure words, tried as silver, purified in a furnace of earth, purified seven times...... see baker purification in the furnace of the earth is the trying and testing of God's Word by His people. You have never tried it and found them pure. So all you can do is trust that when His people tell you they are true, you can either believe or reject.



no value? I've lost you


latour999 any religion that does not have it's grounding in the Word of God will be useless (of no value) in that last day. You know Christ said the Word that I speak to you will judge you in the last day if it is rejected.

I know this isn't exactly PC, and I'm probably not supposed to say this, but we would probably be better off without religion


Now this staement is worthy of consideration latour999. the only people that I have found that this would offend are those who do not believe the Bible is the Word of God.... every jot and every tittle. The way I see it is religion is for individual who feel they can please God through their flesh.

= World Peace


Bless your heart!

If we didn't have the Bible we would not have a clue as to the nature and character of God. You can know Him in the person of Jesus Christ.

preacherman
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
The only way to believe that the Bible is the literal, infallible word of God is having faith that it is so. I believe devoutly that nothing is perfect, other than God. To bypass this, you equate the Word with God. This places a book on the same level as God. I see this as idolatry.

I reserve my faith for the infallible, God, not books or the men who write their accounts in them. I believe that we have recorded there much that comes from God, by way of men's minds. In a toss-up between a fallible book, and my God-given concience, I have to choose the latter.

To each his own, and I respect your beliefs.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
In a toss-up between a fallible book, and my God-given concience, I have to choose the latter.


Do you believe the scripture where it says that "the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, who can know it?" Jeremiah 17:9

How can one trust their concience and heart to lead them in the way, especially when it is contrary to the clear teaching of God's Word. A good example of this would be when someone states that God lead them to kill a doctor that murders innocent babies through the practice of abortion. One could argue that the Word of God is very clear and teaches "thy shalt not kill" should one not kill? If the believer says that this clear cut teaching is possibly the opinion of a man in translating the Bible, and God has overridden that teaching by convicting my concience, then it is okay to follow my concience instead of God's Word.

preacherman
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Mmm, convenient idea, but in reality we have tons of examples of how broken Marxist thought really is. Well, basically every attempt at its application that I can think of...


It worked in Yugoslavia under Tito. Of course, Milosevic f*cked everything up afterwards...
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
If we did not have the Bible, we would not know of God's Righteousness and our sin

preacherman
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
We would simply not exist, try imagine that. No-one asked you what the meaning of the seven times tried, meant. The naturalistic approach which I have read about in this discussion is amusing, but it is dated and has already reaped it's harvest in the many vicious texts that rightly do exist. Refer to the work of Professor Gail Riplinger. link - her site...quite an eye popper!!