"Let me start at the bottom and work my way up....first of all, I agree that the war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11...I don't deny, though, that Saddam ultimately deserved what he got. I've said enough on my beliefs on this subject on other posts, so I'm not even going to get into it with you."
Your opinion for what It's worth, Is respected. But since your, Shall I say distaste? Instead of hate, For Arabs in general Stems from a personal attack on your country, What did Saddam ever do to you?
"As to "the culprit" running free...he's a hunted beast, always on the move, slinking like Gollum in caves and bunkers rather than going to weddings and happy gatherings with his fellow zealot nutcases. How free is he? If you consider that freedom, I feel sorry for you."
Permit me a bon mot but that's utter bullshit. No one really knows where Bin Laden lives, And if he is as rich as you so put it in your inital reply, He's probably living in a very nicely equipped Cave. Whatever his living conditions are, he is free.
You somehow interpreted this post of mine "So basically aslong as they did it in hate, So can Americans. But we aren't haters"
with a rebuttle that answers why they hate you, And why you should not stand around and wait for a Nuclear Attack. I'll translate the post for you : Don't call others haters and then brandish your own Hate. Simple enough? Btw, And I'm sure you've heard this before, The States is the only Country ever to have used a Nuclear Weapon. So be careful with those pebbles you're throwing.
"You are touchy-feely goofballs. That's not a hate term. Just because I have an opinion on your attitudes doesn't mean I hate you, though any attack used on a person of liberal attitudes is automatically construed as "hate". It makes it easier for your little minds to grasp, rather than to examine the feebleness and impracticality of your own ideals. You accuse us of closed-mindedness, instead"
If I take a bite of an Eclair, Spit it out and say "That was horrible" "That's got to be the crappiest of all pastries" "It's the Donny Osmond of Baked goods" What do you think my Opinion and feelings towards an Eclair is? I don't like it, I loathe it. Using derofatory and belittling words (Terms seems to upset you) like Touchy, Feely Goofbals, Little minds to grasp and Closed Mindedness can really only belive anyone to believe that you dislike them, Maybe not personally but atleast on every other level. You can't have your hate and eat it, Just be honest.
"From this, I can infer that you haven't seen much from Reiki-House in the past. I have."
That was the original reason behind my first post. You judge the post incorrectly, Inferring things in to it's meaning because you've had "Run - Ins" with the poster before. You just don't like him and have labeled him as you did me because he has different ideas from yourself. So how objectional are you really? No more objectional than the Terrorists that you hate so much.
"And they are Islamic nutbars....there are nutcases in any religion. I calls'em as I sees'em. What would you call people who, in the name of their faith, wrap themselves in dynamite and blow up buses? Or hijack planes and fly them into buildings? Or pack explosives into their cars and drive them into populated areas? I'd sure like to know, because I don't."
As there are "Nutbars" in every religion, There are the "Nutbars" in politics. Same game, different battlefield. When America can say that it is as pure as Snow, With no Skeletons in it's closet, Then we can get self righteous with others. Does it make what happened right? No. Just a serious of wrongs that everyone tried to correct with more wrongs, But that's another story for another time.
"Sometimes hate can be a useful tool. Would the Second World War have been won if we had just scratched our heads, rubbed our chins and tried to "see past the tragedy and hate"?"
So you are hateful or aren't hateful? Because that seems to indicate that you're using hate as a tool for Justice. That's not a Judge, That's a Vigillante. WW II was about the preservation of a way of life. The Nazi's wanted to impose thier ideas on the rest of Europe, The rest Europe didn't like that too much. Thus the fighting. If anyone had any reason to HATE the Nazi's it was the jews, But they were being rapidly anihilated in Death Camps. There are many theories that explain why America entered the War. I'm not going to debate you on them all, But the one I most think is true is because after the attack on Pearl Harbour, America was no longer on the side lines. It had been directly hit, And thus went after those that caused them harm. So it really wasn't hate, It was rebuke at a direct hit. We've already agreed that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, So let's not use that analogy.Enough WW II talk.
"No, we hated the Japanese for what they did, and it got us off our asses and, after a little lost effort in the beginning, beat the shit out of them."
You dropped untested Nuclear Bombs on them, Hardly a fair fight. But again, A disscussion for another day.
"The only difference here is, in that war, we had an honorable enemy; a nation-target that stood and fought, to aim our efforts at, rather than a shadow force of cowards who would rather skulk and ambush innocent people than fight."
Lol, Sorry, But you seem to have lost history somewhere. An honorable enemy that loads it's Aircraft with explosives then Plummets the plane, With the pilot inside, In to an enemy target. Suicide bomber anyone? Of course the Japanese called it Kamakaze to make it more appealing. The whole reason America entered the War is because of Pearl Harbour. An attack on an American Base with not only millitary personel, But also their famillies. Loads of Innocent people died.
"And exactly what would be accomplished by attacking Canada? The US is right next door, and attacking the United States gets more points for the movement."
Attack the Power Plants in Quebec, And watch NewYork State collapse in darkness. You're confusing your Superiority complex with Fact.
"It is laughable. Most Moslems who engage in terrorist activities against the West are college-educated and fairly well-off."
And yet Rightwinger was telling us all that they hated Americans because Americans have a better lifestyle. Can we get the Americans to agree on what's what and what's not please.
"Obviously YOU have never been to those countries, either that or you've never bothered to learn what really goes on. A high percentage of the population of the countries are actually foreign workers (non-nationals) in the oil industry. The government collects much of the revenue, and doles out the money to the lazy populace. Pretty much like every one of the coutnries you mention, with the exception of Jordan, which is a poor country overall."
It's not obvious at all. I can atest to that because I lived in the Middle East for 13 Years in all the countries I mentioned plus a few more. I'm talking about the Ameers, the locals of the country. Not the Foriegners they bring in. The average Bey or Shiekh or Ameer's Lifestyle and wealth could very surpass that of Bush himself. The quality of living in these places is to say the least, Lavish. So please, Keep those results you got off Google to yourself untill you can further inquire about the Poster (Me). In most of the countries I've mentioned the Government is actually a Monarchy, And besides things like Zakkat and El-Farida, Wealth distribution is pretty much the same as anywhere else. You go out, You work, Earn a Wage and pay taxes. You've been reading too many Sindbad Novels. It's certainly no worse than the lazy Gits that slober around on wellfare all their life in The States.
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