Saw....Disgust and Dismay

I'm pissed and it's not even my kids.....

My friend's 12 year old daughter was given a reward today in Science class. She is in 8th grade and 12 years old.

What do you think the reward for doing well on the test was? Candy? No. Less homework? Not that either. A movie..."Saw"Link


If you haven't seen this movie, I have heard that you probably don't want to. Disturbing images of gruesome death, dismemberment, violence etc. etc. I rented it for the school board to review during a meeting tomorrow and printed up several reviews off the internet. The information I gleaned from the back of the box and from the reviews was disturbing enough, I don't really think I would be able to watch this. I can't imagine a teacher showing this to TWELVE YEAR OLD KIDS!

Apparently, the teacher told the kids not to tell anyone about this either. I think that proves that she knew it was inappropriate, so for those who did see this movie, what do you think? Am I overreacting? I think any movie that is R rated should not be shown to kids without parental approval. I think viewing Shindler's List in history class would be acceptable, but a horror movie?
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I'm adding this....I watched a few trailers and clips online....I can definetely say that I stand my my original opinion of the movie. Gruesome and inappropriate...
I should have stuck to reading about it....I'm off to think about something nice so I can selep tonight.
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Call me a prude (hey BlueDev, you stinking prude!), but I would be beyond furious if Saw was shown in any age class. That they were 12 blows my mind. I would definately take action.
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This should be lodged as a complaint to the school board if the girl's parents object.
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Well, apparently many parents object. Many of them didn't know until this girl's mom started making phone calls. I'm just in shock. I wonder what action should (and will be) taken against the teacher and the school......
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I couldn't get through the reviews or 30-second trailers on tv without my stomach turning.

Keep us updated on the situation, ok?

The teacher deftinely should be reprimanded. Children shouldn't be allowed to view it. It's rated R for a reason.
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There are two disgusting and dismaying situations here.

The innappropriate film (((ParaTed2k proudly joins BlueDev in the Prude Patrol!)))) that should never taken up any part of a 12 year old's classtime. ((((And this is coming from a dad who let his kids watch "The Changling" when they were younger than 12!)))

But this is the most disgusting and dismaying part of it all:

Apparently, the teacher told the kids not to tell anyone about this either.


These are 13 words that can never be part of a description of a competent teacher!!! These are the words of child molesters!!!

((((For the record, no I'm not calling her a child molester, I am merely pointing out that "don't tell anyone" is a child molester's best protection))))
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These are 13 words that can never be part of a description of a competent teacher!!! These are the words of child molesters!!!


That's what concerned me, the (REMOTE, but nonetheless real) possibility that this teacher could be "grooming" students.

Please, don't let this issue die. That teacher should be SEVERELY reprimanded, and you MIGHT want to check into laws regarding showing pornography to minors. I don't know if they apply in this case, but they might.
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It's R rated.  A 12 year old can't watch it in the theater without a parent- so why should it be allowed in SCHOOL?

If parents can't trust teachers to protect their children while at school, what are they supposed to do?  I would be outraged if it were my child that was shown an R rated film.  Parents have the right to control what is shown to their children.

And people wonder why private schools and home schooling are gaining popularity.......

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The main issue to me is the teacher denied the guardians of the children their right to decide what their kids can and can't see.

That's the point in ratings, to let parents know that the movie is something they should decide whether or not their kids see. That's the reason why kids can't get in.

Teacher should be in trouble. If this was a movie full of T&A, it would be easy to get something done, but people don't take this kind of gruesome, pointless violence seriously.
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At our school, we aren't allowed to even show "PG" films to that age group.

A rated "R" movie wouldn't even be allowed for seniors, much less 12 year olds. Any movies, music, etc. we use in class has to be pre-approved.
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Geez...why don't they just show "The Exorcist" to kindergarteners? Or maybe porn flicks for Sex Ed class?
I hope that teacher gets severely reprimanded at the very, very least.
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I saw this movie in the theatre with my husband. (I'm a huge horror genre fan) However I am 21 years old and it still turned my stomach to watch this. There were several scenes that made me turn away and hide behind my husband's arm. This is NOT a movie for children. Severe actions need to be taken with this teacher. It was inappropriate to show this in the first place with or without parental consent. But then to tell the children to keep it a secret was a gross error in judgement. My husband and I are thinking about putting our children through private schools, and it's things like this that help push us further that direction.
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Holy cats, they showed that to a 12 year old!?!! Hell no, that's not appropriate AT all. I saw it with my husband one afternoon last week, and even I was grossed out by some parts of it (not to mention I thought that acting was shoddy as all get out which totally runied the plot). There's no way I'd have let my 12 year old see that.

I'd be calling the school to voice my concerns..
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Absolutely unacceptable! When I was in school (not that long ago) even as a senior you had to have permission to see a PG movie in school. I agree with many of the posters that the fact that the teacher told the kids to keep it a secret is digusting! Reminds me of the "It'll be our little secret" line. Please don't let this issue die with them.

-Jenn
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I don't like horror movies myself...the just don't do anything for me so I can't say I've seen this one.
Even so, I can't begin to fathom why the teacher would think it was okay to do so. Obviously she knew she was in the wrong and was treading on a minefield here, or else she wouldn't have told the kids to keep it under their hats.
Would she have wanted a teacher of her kids to do something so reckless and irresponsible? How stupid.
I agree that this should be pursued. After all, it's not like she showed them "Star Wars" or "The Care Bear Movie".
If she wanted to show them something scary, she could have used, maybe, an older movie...the 1968 version of "Night of the Living Dead", maybe. Scary, but not so...perverse and gory, at least not by today's standards.
Or, if she wanted to, she could have made it seem like an educational exercise. How about Universal's 1931 versions of "Dracula" or "Frankenstein"? "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde"? Not only classic horror flicks, but based on classic novels, as well. She's moronic....I hope she gets what's coming to her.
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If she wanted to show them something scary, she could have used, maybe, an older movie...the 1968 version of "Night of the Living Dead", maybe. Scary, but not so...perverse and gory, at least not by today's standards.


You mean the film that was banned in several countries for goryness?? lol

Nothing like Zomby people gnawing on a human leg while moratl people blow their heads off to complete a child's education!! ;~D
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I saw the movie, I thought it was an okay movie in entertainment value. Definately a trip into a psychotic world...but I do agree that it shouldn't shown in schools without parental approval especially to 12yr olds....Wow, having seen that movie (and I'm 16) I can definately say that 12yr olds would freak out after watching that. It's very graphic and detailed....I think's it's a pretty good movie if you're of the proper age. It's not scary but very gruesome, anyway.

~Zoo
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You mean the film that was banned in several countries for goryness?? lol

Nothing like Zomby people gnawing on a human leg while moratl people blow their heads off to complete a child's education!! ;~D


No, Mr. Ebert....that was 1978's "Dawn of the Dead", which was much, much more gory and violent. If you've ever seen the 1968 movie, you'd know what I mean. It wasn't as graphic. And the shoot'em in the head thing wasn't introduced until "Dawn".
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Of course, once again, by today's standards, "Dawn" was nothing compared to something like what I've heard "Saw" is like.
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No, Mr. Ebert....that was 1978's "Dawn of the Dead", which was much, much more gory and violent. If you've ever seen the 1968 movie, you'd know what I mean. It wasn't as graphic. And the shoot'em in the head thing wasn't introduced until "Dawn


I stand corrected!! and to think I was even thinking of cracking a joke on you being a decade off on the year of release!! ;~D

Glad I never claimed to be a "know-it-all" ;~D
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'Saw' is one movie that I can't even begin to fathom how a teacher can justify showing in school.

I too am in 8th grade, and my teacher has shown us an R movie. However, it was related to the curriculum (the movie was "Glory" for the Civil War). Also, the teacher managed to censor the curses by fast forwarding through some scenes and other methods. It was by no means a secret between the teacher and students.

My teacher has shown us a PG-13 movie not related to the curriculum, but he also censored that. His reason for showing it to us was because it was the week of standardized testing, so the teachers were asked to give us a break. As long as the movie isn't grossly inappropriate, I don't think there is much harm to it.

The issue about 'Saw' should be pursued. I really can't imagine why any teacher would show that...
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Well, i want to thank everyone for their input on this...especially those who saw it. As I said before, the preview was more than enough for my happy-go-lucky mind. I don't think you are a prude Bluedev and Parated2k....I value the opinions of those with morals and standards. Apparently many parents were upset about this movie being shown to thier kids. The school board has absolved themselves of responsibility so far. They point out that in the school guidelines...ALL movies that are more than G rated MUST be approved by all parents. So I don't know what will happen to the teacher yet, but the principal was furious. I will keep you informed...Thank you for your opinions and thoughts on the subject. I'm glad to know that I am not alone in my "prudish" opinions!
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I remember seeing Excalibur in my freshman year of high school. Sure, that has some naughty bits, but not only did they fast forward past them (to the disappointment of dudes like me), but Excalibur was actually relevant to the curriculum (i.e. King Arthur). I wonder how Saw was relevant to anything. Is there a SERIAL KILLER who drives people to suicide in that school?