Canada Said What???

Shoot it down first and beg forgiveness later I suppose....

I guess if you take the "appeasement" stance, and degrade yourself in the process, it would suck to STILL have debris rain down on you. To me, this is like saying, "Hey, we have done our bit and wussed out so that the world will leave us alone, don't drag us into anything and make it all for naught..."

Screw them. Blue. If something is hurtling toward the US, I would much rather apologize profusely than sacrifice thousands of Americans for the sake of their soveriegn airspace.

I'm sure it should matter what the Canadian goverment thinks. But in as a practical matter, it really doesn't.

We won't be violating a sovereign nation's airspace from orbit.

Have a nice French Quebecer day

Screw them. Blue. If something is hurtling toward the US, I would much rather apologize profusely than sacrifice thousands of Americans for the sake of their soveriegn airspace

And just why should we apologise in the first place?
Canada has been and will continue to be a leach on US military budgets!

By the way if the incoming missle is an ICBM for instance, umm if we didnt shoot it down, and it detonated, then Canada would become in all likelyhood partially contaminated via nuclear fallout.

This is something I should have on my show.... Canada wants protection, but reminds the US that it is really just a really big US state... such that you can shoot down missiles over our airspace (especially if its heading toward us)

I wonder something... If we did "violate" Canadian airspace by shooting at the ICBM, which violation would they whine about the most. Ours for shooting down the missile, or whoever fired the missile through their airspace in the first place? ;~D

Aww heck lets just make the whole world American. Another countries airspace? pfft, who cares about that.
btw mexico if you ever send a borrito bomb missile in to us airspace to shoot down an enemy taco teaser missile, we'll kick your asses - i mean, c'mon now, you cant invade another countries airspace Mexico.

if yall aren't gonna support my efforts to become sultan of brunei, don't come cryin to me when you need a loan and i'm one of the richest men in the world.

i expect to take the throne about the same time one of them starwars missles actually destroys something besides its projected cost of implementation.

The star wars program is a joke. It costs the US taxpayer billions, and it cannot even knock down a missle in tests when it knows where it will be and when it's coming. So far, this program is a failure. And a massive drain on the US economy, as well.

As for what Canada may be saying....... likely they're just taking a stance, using the air space issue, that they will have nothing to do with this US fiasco. If a missile comes hurtling towards Canada, or the US, we're all SOL, whether we have star wars or not. I wouldn't be surprised if the anti missile does more, or additional damage than the missile it was supposed to take down.

But, I guess it is hugely successful on some counts. I bet some military contractors and their investors (ie halliburton and Uncle Buck) are likely making a ton of money off the star wars program.

It's amazing how a background in - what is it exactly, landscaping? - can grant someone like Dabe the knowledge in, for lack of better term, rocket science and gives her insight into the innermost practices of defense industries.

Here's a clue, Dabe. When you don't know what the hell you're talking about, don't comment.

On behalf of all Canadians I'd like to thank the American taxpayer (well, I should be thanking China for fronting the Bankrupt States of America the cash, but that's another matter) for paying for the missle defense shield that protects my country. I enjoy the free medicare that this scam brings me; I'm happy it's you, not me, who pays for this.

Seriously, the missle defense thingie is a complicated issue (does it even work, and would you want YOUR foreign policy tied to the rogue state Americans?), and I think our Prime Minister Dithers made the wrong call. It's all academic anyway; no one is going to ICBM Canada, and America isn't going to ask permission to (hypothetically) shoot down (hypothetical) missles, nor should they. So why all the hubub?

Draginol - 'I'm sure it should matter what the Canadian goverment thinks. But in as a practical matter, it really doesn't.' You keep repeating how irrelevant Canada is, yet never miss an opportunity to comment on Canuck matters - and feature them on the front page. Why so bitter towards Canada? Is it because Ontario now produces more vehicles than 'Old America' Michigan? Or because we're getting the biggest free ride in history on your tax dollars? Whatever, just keep strokin' those six figure tax checks, I'm sure the governement is spending your cash wisely, both at home and in Iraq.

LW - ' What would really be cool is if we uhmm, missed......(on the first shot, at least) and took out....lets say....Quebec!' Mais non, mon cheri....Quebec supplies a large portion of New York state's electricity; your country would screech to a halt if somehow those transmission lines were somehow jeopardized...hmmmm. En tous cas, another crack like that and the eastern seaboard can freeze in the dark, mmmmkay?

David St. Hubbins

I think Draginol likes to talk about Canada because he lives only a few miles from the border. To most Americans, especially ones who live near the border, Canada is like a series of backwater US states except with an attitude. As for Draginol's 6-figure tax checks, you do realize that that means he also made at least 6-digits. I'm sure he's really crying about that..

The star wars program is a joke. It costs the US taxpayer billions, and it cannot even knock down a missle in tests when it knows where it will be and when it's coming. So far, this program is a failure. And a massive drain on the US economy, as well.

So, if we listened to this attitude after Prs. Kennedy announced his dream to put a man on the moon, how close to the moon would we have come?

When Prs. Kennedy made his announcement, the technology to do such a thing did not exist. How many tests failed before a rocket was even put into orbit? How much money went into research, developement and training before it actually happened?

But we did get a man on the moon, didn't we. I can't think of any government program that has returned more technology, scientific research and added to our economy as much as the space program. However, then as well as today, it has its naysayers and detractors.

SDI may have a long way to go, and it definitely has its drawbacks at this point, however what engineers and others are learning from the "failures" is already improving our technology in lasers, radar, guidance and other technologies.

In medicine, we often kill a few thousand people and spend millions before we "learn" what not to do anymore. I guess, using this logic, we should completely stop trying.

Helix, the Bush admin has stated they will "protect" *all* of North America whether you, I, or the Canadian government likes it or not. Thus, your burnage is weak, dude, try again.

We are America's biggest oil supplier too, so your 'we don't need Canada' attitude is exactly 100% wrong. We've been exporting nuclear reactors around the world since the 50s, are the most educated people in the world (second richest too) and have good relations with virtually every country, so if we need to whip up a nuke I think we can manage. I hope this clears things up.

David St. Hubbins

Ahhhhh, apply a little pressure to an American and the ugliness comes out pretty easily.

The average American male is 5'9" and 190 lbs, they are the fattest, least healthy "warriors" on the planet. So sure, I'll book that action anytime, buddy

David St. Hubbins

ahhhhhhh canada, the land of the fabled "adam and steve" story from the bible, the land that treasures army deserters, and builds memorials to draft dodgers and cowards. When I visit there next month I will make sure to wear my american flag shirt with "be kind fuck a canadian" printed on it.

ModerateMan, we don't allow drug dealers here in Canada. I've obtained your personal info from Dharma P.I. and forwarded your extensive marijuana trafficking history to Canada Customs. Sorry old chap, but unlike your country (20 million illegal immigrants - wtf?) we don't allow shady types. Good day.

David St. Hubbins

Heheheh, astute observation Helix. They (the French) were here before we (the Squareheads) were. It's only since the early 19th century - around the time we last burned down your White House - that anglos have been significant in numbers here.

David St. Hubbins

Durn those Anglos

Well I for one thinks it's typical for Americans to be ignorant and uncaring over the fact that when they use military force, innocent people die. So damn rights the US should ACT ACCORDING TO INTERNATIONAL LAWS when dealing with military action. We see what happens when they don't act through proper channels. And who do you think is going to be sending missles to the US anyways? "Terrorists" are getting into the nuclear attack business now or something? Don't you see it'a all a big sham to keep otherwise non-pussyish people from opening their eyes and flexing their muscles? For a supremely violent and murderous military nation like the US they sure produce some dim-witted gullible and scared (yes scared!) citizens. If it wasn't the red menace (bullshit domino theory garbage for the public consumption) and communism that was scaring Americans, then drugs were substituted as the great enemy. Then after the drug garbage was done, it turned into the terrorist menace. Always something to fear. Always some scary boogeyman group scaring Americans. And it's telling how you people never seem to miss a beat. The lies started with the WMD crap. The US had to illegally invade a sovereign 3rd world country because Iraq was mean and scary and were planning to kill all Americans everywhere *shiver shake*. Once the lie became apparent, it, without missing a beat, changed from "we're getting Iraq's WMD" to "we're exporting democracy because we love freedom".

It's rather absurd to argue that the US shouldn't shoot down an incoming missile simply because it's flying over Canadian air space. And since there's nothing Canada can do about it, there's not a lot of incentive for the US to act against its own best interest on the matter.

Reiki, "Americans to be ignorant and uncaring" is exactly my point. I'm totally wrong for feeling thing way but if I'm going to be called a barbarian I'm sure in hell going to act like one. It is very tiring to be nice to people who give you the finger anyways, globally speaking. So I'ma give the finger back. Not that it matters, I don't dictate US policy nor does David dictate Canadian policy.

True Draginol. But that leaves bare the used-to-be-embarassing fact: Breaking international laws has become America's forte. They break them over invasions of 3rd world nations, over torture, over illegal weapons, over illegal war killings, over everything to do with military terrorism and death. The missile defence system of the US doesn't even work yet. One things though is to think of what countries would need their missile to pass over Canada to get to the US in the forst place. Check it out. Why can't people see the sham behind it all? The use of fear as a motivator for the populations to remain sheep. The fact of an overwhelming mutual annihilation is what prevents a missile strike on the US. It's the basis behind the so-called Cold War. To think some bogus "terrorist" group is going to nuke the US with a missile makes it seem most likely that he was chewing his finger nails waiting for the scary day when Ho Chi Mihn was going to land on the shores of California. The threat of an overwhelming annihilation response will keep missiles from being fired on the US. Just like it did in the 'cold war'. And whatever happened to the Patriot missile? I knew at the time that it wasn't working out very well at all (compared to glowing US media reports), but how anyone could believe the 31/32(ish) shootdown number makes the sheep analogy all the more attractive. To sum it up, no nation will fire missiles at the US since they know they'd be destroyed in kind if they did. No incentive at all to do so. We know terrorists don't have the kind of extreme capabilities to shoot missiles at US soil. We know the nations who would need to go through Canada to reach the US are not enemies of the US.

Well I certainly didn't expect this rather quickly done faux dialogue to take off as it has, but lets get to it.

I'm not going to touch the whole missile defense programs is a failure thing cuz I don't know enough about it, and it really wasn't what I was trying to touch on with the article. I'm not gonna add to the US vs. Canada namecalling either, because that is not where I was trying to go with the article.

I have no problem with Canada, I'm ecstatic that y'all did the gay marriage thing, we probably agree as far as wanting Bush out, but honestly, y'all screwed up on this one. We can't shoot missiles down over your airspace? WTF?

This is basic human nature, guys. If a fist comes at me, I'm gonna swipe it away. I'm not gonna let someone sock me just because you're standing next to me.