PETA wants your Valentine's Day to suck

Marge: Mmmm ... who left these muddy claw prints on my clean floor?

Homer: Sorry, Marge. Pinchy got all dirty in the yard chasing birds. But don't worry! I put him in a nice, hot bath.

Bart: [sniffs the air] Hey, what smells so good?

Homer: Yeah ... Pinchy? Pinchy!?! Oh ... =Pinchy=!!!!! [he runs out of the room worried]

Later that night, Homer is crying at the dining room table, taking bites out of Pinchy's dead body while the family is watching.

Homer: [eating, crying] Oh, man, that's good. [sob] Pass the butter.

Bart: Are you gonna eat that all by yourself?

Homer: Uh-huh. Pinchy would've wanted it this way. My dear, sweet Pinchy. [takes a bite] No more pain where you are now, boy.
[rips him in half and sucks out the meat inside] Oh, God, that's tasty! I wish Pinchy were here to enjoy this. [takes more bites] Oh, Pinchy ...

From cnn.com :

Animal activists for years have claimed that lobsters are in agony when being cooked, and that dropping one in a pot of boiling water is tantamount to torture.

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Lobsters and crabs have some capacity of learning, but it is unlikely that they can feel pain," concluded the 39-page report, aimed at determining if creatures without backbones should be subject to animal welfare legislation as Norway revises its animal welfare law.


Um, OK...how stupid is this? We are supposed to forgo delicious, succulent lobster (prepared by live boiling, of course) because we are concerned that it might be cruel or considered torture?

Handcuffing someone to the metal bars of a bed and covering their head with pink cotton panties is cruel. (Thank you, Abu Ghraib)

Making someone eat cat poop before they can have a steak is cruel. (Thank you, Anchorman)

Making your male child hold a pair of sheer panties on a hanger outside the women's restroom for several minutes is cruel. (Don't ask)

Preparing food in a delicious way is NOT cruel.

Having taken a crapload of biology and life science in college (surprising, eh?), I can attest to the fact that fish and crustaceans do not have the nervous system set ups required to make things such as boiling and searing in butter (mmm...butter) painful. Any Nirvana fans out there? Remember..."it's OK to eat fish 'cause they don't have any feeling"? Yup, it's true.

KFC may in fact torture chickens. Slaughterhouses may actually be brutally murdering cows. But Red Lobster is innocent of any crimes against crustaceans.

This is silly.

Lobsters are FOOD, not friends!

The geniuses at PETA handled the crisis thusly:

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, an animal rights organization based in Norfolk, Virginia, has made lobster pain part of its Fish Empathy Project, putting out stickers and pamphlets with slogans such as "Being Boiled Hurts. Let Lobsters Live." Group supporters regularly demonstrate at the Maine Lobster Festival in Rockland.

I have a slogan for PETA...check this out..."Pass the butter, beotch." It would make terrific stickers and posters.

I'm mostly a vegetarian...I don't believe in killing animals for fun...I'm a pinko commie liberal, in fact...buuuut...

C'mon...

We gotta eat something. Why not something delicious that doesn't even care if you boil or dismember it alive? How perfect is that?

Let's find something else to be outraged about.




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Reply #1 Top
Agreed--though I still think it is cruel when my dad lets the cats and dog chase the lobster around the kitchen and "play" with it before it is cooked!

Hmm...lobster--now I have a craving.
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Fish are friends, not food! Thus speaks Bruce.

IG
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Lobster? That ain't nuthin' Tex! How 'bout this from the late, great (at least on JU) Little Whip: Link

Yum...
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If they don't feel pain, then I definitely feel much about them being boiled alive, because if they did feel pain, then the least one could do is kill them right before they boil them.
Reply #5 Top
Great article!! I don't have any lobster, but you've got me thinking of thawing out some of the Salmon and Hallibut keeping my freezer company for dinner tomorrow night!!

Someone once asked me how it is that I can throw a barbed, baited hook out into the water, then yank that innocent fish from it's home and family.

Purposely overlooking the sillyness of the "home and family" analogy, I just looked, laughed and said, "Innocent? That fish would still be alive if it hadn't have tried to kill my bait!" ;~D

Agreed... FISH ARE FOOD, NOT FRIENDS!! (((((Except for by Bettas of course))) ;~D
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"It's OK to eat fish cuz they don't have any feelings." -- Kurt

But leave the seahorses alone, dammit! I draw the line at the shilfs!
Reply #7 Top
lobster, mmm, yumm, *drool, drool*
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If they don't feel pain, then I definitely feel much about them being boiled alive, because if they did feel pain, then the least one could do is kill them right before they boil them.


Well, I've heard if you refrigerate them before you boil them, they are unconscious when they hit the water.
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I don't believe I've ever heard the lobster scream...and they don't show much emotion so...PETA can kiss my ass, because lobster is delicious. I like PETA's ideas...but they tend to get too carried away. What next? Ethical Treatment for pesky little bugs? Don't kill mosquitos, let them suck you dry and give you malaria...cause they have feelings too. PETA needs to chill out a bit...

~Zoo
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Well, I've heard if you refrigerate them before you boil them, they are unconscious when they hit the water.


That's what I heard too. I found this on octopus.gma.org:




How to cook a lobster in the most humane manner has been a concern of guilt-ridden chefs for generations. In order to put the matter to a rest scientifically, one researcher instructed his graduate students to boil lobsters after having subjected them to various relaxation techniques. The students determined which method of dispatching them was the kindest by counting the number of tails flicks heard in the kettle before each lobster succumbed to the boiling water. They tried hyponotizing the subjects (rubbing their backs until they stood on their heads), soaking them in fresh water, heating them slowly from room temperature to boiling, and other accepted strategies. They found that putting them in the fridge before cooking to numb them up, (as happens naturally in winter), resulted in the lowest number of tail twitches. So, according to modern science, a few minutes in the freezer means less agony in the kettle.


I personally don't eat fresh lobster. To choose a lobster from the tank, and then ask someone to prepare it for me....that's asking someone to kill for me, and I'm not allowed to (or going to) do that. I wouldn't go into a sty and pick out a specific pig either...or a cow, or lamb, or whatever.
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"Handcuffing someone to the metal bars of a bed and covering their head with pink cotton panties is cruel. "


And yet some men would pay good money for that treatment, no doubt...

Lobsters boiled don't suffer any more than lobsters pulled apart by natural predators and eaten alive. If I had the choice of someone tearing off hunks of me and eating it as I watched, or being quickly boiled and sent to the great beyond first... well, it's obvious.

What always amazes me is that in the eyes of these people nature is somehow so moral and perfect, but nature is far more carnivorous and brutal than we are. Disney rules in the minds of these deluded folks. All the lions play with the little warthogs and everyone eats popcorn...
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Vegetable juice is murder......for lo I say unto you, if any of you harms but one of the broccoli sprouts, it would be better if he had a millstone hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea.

(walks away whistling quietly...................)mmmmmmm.......lobster
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Shades:
Agreed--though I still think it is cruel when my dad lets the cats and dog chase the lobster around the kitchen and "play" with it before it is cooked!


Awww...I agree...hahaha

Hmm...lobster--now I have a craving.


Oooh...me too...yummy...

IG:
Fish are friends, not food! Thus speaks Bruce.


Hehe...great movie...but shrimp, crabs, clams, lobster, and salmon nigiri are still food...

Shovel:
Lobster? That ain't nuthin' Tex! How 'bout this from the late, great (at least on JU) Little Whip


I remember that one (holds back vomit)...hehehe

messy:
If they don't feel pain, then I definitely feel much about them being boiled alive, because if they did feel pain, then the least one could do is kill them right before they boil them.


(in best Scooby Doo voice) Ruh?

ParaTed2K:
Great article!! I don't have any lobster, but you've got me thinking of thawing out some of the Salmon and Hallibut keeping my freezer company for dinner tomorrow night!!


Thanks...glad I inspired you...hehe

Purposely overlooking the sillyness of the "home and family" analogy, I just looked, laughed and said, "Innocent? That fish would still be alive if it hadn't have tried to kill my bait!"


Hahahaha...good point...

(((((Except for by Bettas of course)))


Our bettas died and we flushed them...looks like we made a good call by not eating them, then...

Myrrander:
But leave the seahorses alone, dammit! I draw the line at the shilfs!


Yeah...that's just wrong...

Islandgurl:
lobster, mmm, yumm, *drool, drool*


Hehe...good stuff...and I haven't had any lobster in a while...

history:
Well, I've heard if you refrigerate them before you boil them, they are unconscious when they hit the water.


Yay! A reply from history on one of my threads! Hmm...I guess it's a kinder, gentler way to slaughter the lobster...

Zoo:
I like PETA's ideas...but they tend to get too carried away.


Yeah, I agree...I am not completely against all of PETA's stances, but their tactics are bizarre, and they really do take their tenets to extremes...

dharma:
I personally don't eat fresh lobster. To choose a lobster from the tank, and then ask someone to prepare it for me....that's asking someone to kill for me, and I'm not allowed to (or going to) do that. I wouldn't go into a sty and pick out a specific pig either...or a cow, or lamb, or whatever.


That's very respectable. But let me ask you this...have you ever hunted? How do you feel about hunting?

They found that putting them in the fridge before cooking to numb them up, (as happens naturally in winter), resulted in the lowest number of tail twitches. So, according to modern science, a few minutes in the freezer means less agony in the kettle.


It's actually not agony that causes them to react like that, but rather a biological drive to escape the pot...

Baker:
And yet some men would pay good money for that treatment, no doubt...


Hahhahaha...scary, but I'm sure you're right...

Lobsters boiled don't suffer any more than lobsters pulled apart by natural predators and eaten alive. If I had the choice of someone tearing off hunks of me and eating it as I watched, or being quickly boiled and sent to the great beyond first... well, it's obvious.


Ahhhh...very good point.

SPC:
Vegetable juice is murder......for lo I say unto you, if any of you harms but one of the broccoli sprouts, it would be better if he had a millstone hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea.


I'm pretty sure you just blasphemed with that one.

(walks away whistling quietly...................)mmmmmmm.......lobster


Yummy, huh?
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(in best Scooby Doo voice) Ruh?


Well, can't they kill the lobster right before they boil it, so it'll be dead as it boils?

If they don't feel pain, then I guess there's no point to do that, but if they do, then it's the least we could do.
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messy: Ahhh...gotcha...I was confused about what you were saying.

I agree with you.
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PETA = Soylent Green
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PETA = Soylent Green


Oooooohhhhh goooooodddddd!!! It's people !!!It's PEOPLE!!!!
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Evorg:
PETA = Soylent Green


Hahaha...it's starting to make sense now...

MX:
Oooooohhhhh goooooodddddd!!! It's people !!!It's PEOPLE!!!!


Hahahahahhahaha...
Reply #19 Top
PETA:

People
Enjoying
Tasty
Animals

So now it's lobsters, huh? These people know no bounds to their pushy stupidity. Yes, animals have rights...they have the right to be my effin' dinner!

About three or four years ago, PETA came to my area (at the time E. Ohio, N. West Virginia) and put orange vests on as many deer as they could find and tranquilize. The idea, of course, was that it would protect them from the hunters, who won't (ostensibly, at least) fire at something in an orange vest.
Well, there was a record hunt that season, as the vests made the deer easier to see. In fact, many hunters wrote letters and sent e-mails to PETA, thanking them for the help.
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But let me ask you this...have you ever hunted? How do you feel about hunting?



In the past I've hunted (but that was many years ago before I started practicing Buddhism). The only thing I've ever killed was a sparrow, and I cried for the rest of the day. Once I became Buddhist, I quit hunting.... one of the eight precepts of Buddhism is 'right action' and it specifically states that Buddhists should abstain from killing. So, for me to ask that a lobster be killed just so I can eat it or to go out with a rifle and kill an animal would go directly against 'right action'.

As for other people hunting....I'm against killing for killing's sake. If people are hunting and using what they kill as a food source then I have less of a problem with it - but to kill and then not utilize what they've killed is, IMO, wrong.
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What always amazes me is that in the eyes of these people nature is somehow so moral and perfect, but nature is far more carnivorous and brutal than we are.


What always amazes me is that they don't consider humankind part of nature.

What are we, artificial constructs? Animals do destructive things and it's "part of nature." We do destructive things and it's "an act against nature." That I don't get.


Well, can't they kill the lobster right before they boil it, so it'll be dead as it boils?


I found this explanation on the web:

"And finally, the reason to cook the lobster ALIVE is to avoid food poisoning. All shellfish have a tendency to take revenge and toxicate themselves quickly, unless immediately frozen once dead. If you DO decide to cook a dead lobster, do NOT eat it if it smells like AMMONIA."

So, poisons are released into their systems when they die. Some things I read say you can try it and see if the cooked-when-dead lobster seems okay, others say don't even risk it.
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You can spike a lobster at the base of its head with a good heavy chef's knife just before you pop it in the pot. Supposedly it kills it instantly. I've read that they aren't alive for more than a couple of seconds in the water anyway, so it is probably not much better.
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Beleive it or not, I am 44 years old and have NEVER EATEN LOBSTER! I remember growing up on a farm & ranch and hunting rabbit, quail, mourning doves, bullfrogs and even rattlesnake, but they all went to the table, nothing was ever wasted. I can tell you one thing for sure, from experience, proper hunting done correctly is a good thing. To kill for the hell of it is wrong and I have never done it, even to a bug.
Reply #24 Top
Once I became Buddhist, I quit hunting.... one of the eight precepts of Buddhism is 'right action' and it specifically states that Buddhists should abstain from killing.
---dharmagirl

Not to turn this into a religious discussion, but why, then, did Buddhist peoples evolve deadly or potentially deadly martial arts? How do they justify it to themselves if they're not supposed to kill? I've never understood this.
Reply #25 Top
Not to turn this into a religious discussion, but why, then, did Buddhist peoples evolve deadly or potentially deadly martial arts? How do they justify it to themselves if they're not supposed to kill? I've never understood this.


Killing for the sake of killing is wrong. Defending oneself from enemies is not wrong. Violence for violence' sake is wrong. Meeting violence by physically defending oneself is not wrong.
I think that you're referring to the samurai....and whilst I'm not samurai and can't give you any insight into their mindset, I do have some explanations for you. Out of respect to Tex and her blog, I'd prefer it if you emailed me for the explanations: [email protected]