Homosexuality---A Sin????

You know, if I was gay, and agreed with you in principle, I would still find this article a bit disturbing.

Basically you're saying that Homosexuals should be considered "natural" because, while they would prefer to have heterosexual sex, they do it because they want to feel more "emotional"???

I do believe that homosexual acts are a sin, however I am capable of seperating what I think of the sin from what I think of the sinner. Its pushing it, but I'll even try to seperate what I think of you from this absolutely hienous article!!! ;~D

Sex is a natural act. Same sex, sex is a little more complicated dontcha thunk. Apart from the fact that the apparatus is sort of like a magnetic objection, the partners just end up simulating hetrosexuality, so whatza beeeg deal? Though a man or women may be sexually caught up in stuff that is really complicating their lives, there is freedom and their is understanding, but I guess we know who to look to for that, certainly not this site, I would recommend Jesus, He loved me enough - to let me know, and His love is not the judgmental and opinionated type that pervades the media.

what, you're an atheist or something?
There were times where God are more short-fused than He seems nowadays...an entire nation is cursed and wiped out literally from the face of the earth because they let homosexuality on the loose....
well, let's just hope this happens again, so gays and lesbis are purged out and the world will be in harmony again..

now, if you refer to animals' homosexuality....WHY ON EARTH SOMETHING THAT IS CREATED TO HAVE LOGIC TAKE BAD EXAMPLES FROM SOMETHING WHICH IS CREATED TO DON'T HAVE LOGIC??

stupid!

So you're saying homosexual sex is "emotional" and that it only expresses "LUV"[sic]. Well, if that holds true I'm glad all the inmates in prison are so full of "luv"[sic]. They are completey "luv"[sic] filled by making sure you're filled with a little something too....

Your logic is flawed...if you can call it logic...and saying that God agrees with this kind of crap is more than likely a mistake. You don't get electricity by plugging plug into another plug or putting an outlet into another outlet.....therefore, it's not natural and not acceptable in the eyes of God. However, if anyone wants to be homosexual, that is their choice and I won't ridicule them for it. I don't hold it in very high regard, and I don't agree with the principles....but if you're homosexual go ahead and go for it.

~Zoo

Mothgrrrrrrr,
God is not the boogieman. Those people in Sodom and Gommorah, were not just practicing homosexuality, they were into all sort of sexual sins. Sex in itself is not sinful, it is when sex violates another persons nature. Jesus is grieved by sinful behaviour, as He gets to see it first hand

Those people in Sodom and Gommorah, were not just practicing homosexuality, they were into all sort of sexual sins. Sex in itself is not sinful, it is when sex violates another persons nature.

Excellent point aeryck, it appears we are living in a time when we want approval for things that our concsience tells us that is not right. It would be very similar to one trying to say that it is okay for a grown man to have sex with a child. How old 12, 10, 8, 6? We have heard account of men raping 3 year old children. Or man trying to conviice the society that sex with animals is normal.... maybe emotional but not normal. Surely we would not think it was normal if a man said he only felt happy and secure when he forcebaly took sex from an unyeilding woman. None of these deal with same sex but are just as wrong... at least in the eyes of God.

I would recommend Jesus, He loved me enough - to let me know, and His love is not the judgmental and opinionated type that pervades the media

Ditto!!!

preacherman

I'm gay, a label i would prefer to stay away from, more importantly i'm a human being, and find this site to be very critical upon something that is neither here nor there.Whilst there is an obvious purpose to heterosexual sex, why does most of this site find it so interesting to talk about why homosexual sex is something that is wrong and provides no purpose, when that opinion is coming from heterosexual people who have never even tried it. This world is so full of people trying to rubbish something they indeed have never even tried and probably never will, simply because it is different to the 'norm'. The only words of God i take heed of is 'Love thy neighbour' and whoever that may be i intend to stick to it, rather than ignore something i feel. I'm happy and am living a life pretty much without sin, so where is the problem?? I think there is far worser perils in this world we need to worry about than the crap most of you above have spieled.

This world is so full of people trying to rubbish something they indeed have never even tried and probably never will, simply because it is different to the 'norm'.

Perhaps the reason that heterosexuals don't try homosexual sex is that they are heterosexual!

I think there is far worser perils in this world we need to worry about than the crap most of you above have spieled.

We shouldn't completely ignore the small things just because there are big things.

The only words of God i take heed of is 'Love thy neighbour' and whoever that may be i intend to stick to it, rather than ignore something i feel.

It's great to pick and choose what to accept and what to ignore, eh? Also, just because you feel something doesn't mean it's "good" or "not sin" or anything like that. Otherwise, addicts have no problems whatsoever.

I'm happy and am living a life pretty much without sin, so where is the problem?

That's pretty self-righteous of you. Everybody's sinful. Besides, homosexuality is a sin, so there's at least one sin you're committing.

There is no such thing is "sin." Since "sin" means transgressing against the law of god, and there is no god, then there is no "sin."

So don't worry about it so much, eh?

There is no such thing is "sin." Since "sin" means transgressing against the law of god, and there is no god, then there is no "sin." So don't worry about it so much, eh?

Perhaps, but I'll wait until I hear from a higher authority on the subject.

I'm gay, a label i would prefer to stay away from, more importantly i'm a human being, and find this site to be very critical upon something that is neither here nor there.

While I do believe homosexual acts are sin, I am also very much in the camp of "what adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom is their business".

This used to be a kind of mantra of the Gay Rights activist. Lately though, it isn't. Mere tolerance doesn't seem to be enough anymore, now acceptance seems to be the goal.

Just as all my friends commit acts I consider sinful (and vise versa), I can accept you as a person and still consider homosexual acts as a sin.

You're right, "gay" people are People first and foremost, so why does "acceptance" of the gay lifestyle seem to be such an important part of the "Gay rights" agenda lately?

Rachel as a minister of God's word let me be the first to tell you that you are and should be loved. Albit mans love is often contengent on what we consider to acceptable in our own sight (what we approve of).Christ loved everyone.... enough to die for them. You sin is no different than my sin, but Christ is fully capable of taking care of that issue.

But we can not deny that even though Christ loved the sinner to die for them, he never condoned an individuals sin... He simply said "go and sin no more".

Oh; be very careful about listening to Myrrander,. He is grossly confused about the reality of God.... he is blind so to speak! But I did read comments that he posted on another thread, and I do think he has a heart, it just needs to be born again.

The good news is the Lord is verrrrrrry patient.

preacherman

I dont know whether there is god or not.And it doesnt matter more but i had wrote this article just for social issue .who is afraid of god??no one.

Oh; be very careful about listening to Myrrander,. He is grossly confused about the reality of God

Just because Myrr doesn't believe in God, doesn't make his opinions any less valid. Your tone is superior and condescending given you have about as much proof your God exists as Myrr has that God doesn't.

If there were a God as you say, he would have to be very bloody patient to put up with this sort of crap...

I may tell Christians that they are foolish, but I've never told anyone that they are going to hell.

Which of us is kinder, then?

"Sin" is human foolishness. There are plenty of reasons to live morally without cringing in fear from an imaginary god.

Just because Myrr doesn't believe in God, doesn't make his opinions any less valid. Your tone is superior and condescending given you have about as much proof your God exists as Myrr has that God doesn't.

It's not Myrrander's lack of belief in God that makes his opinion less valid.

I may tell Christians that they are foolish, but I've never told anyone that they are going to hell.

Yes, there are Christians that tell people that they are going to hell, but that doesn't mean that it's something all or even most Christians would do. Sure, there's a lot, but there's also a lot of atheists who are pretty bipolar, bitter, closed-minded, and scientific illiterate despite the fact that they claim to be all about science. Hell, there's plenty of examples of this in this place! That doesn't mean that all atheists are like that nor does it mean that I should compare myself to them rather than the intelligent, tolerant, and stable atheists.

Holy palmino how hard is it to understand how this works? Our species, to continue on, needs a way to create little miniature versions of ourselves to assure continuity of our species. So nature, or God, made us in such a way that we could do something in order to further our species. It's called intercourse. Now, sex is fun and feels good, so we make an issue of it like the mindless fools we are. We see it as recreation or in any way other than the way it should be seen as. To continue our species. Show me 10 men, male or female bunnies, male or female dogs, male or female cats, or of any other creatures, and I'll show you a creature that will not be seen once the original die off. Sorry to say this, but the male penis is not created by nature, or God, to be used to ejaculate inside the anus or any other orifice of another male body. In fact, doing so is contrary to nature, where continuance of life is a strict guarantee, as long as people don't go screwing around with it. Just like breasts. They're not created by nature, or God, for you to want to fondle or admire, they're there to feed and nurture your offspring. Why are people so clueless when it comes to sex and homosexuality? Some try say they're born that way. Right. Or that nature meant for them to be the other sex and now they're trapped in the wrong gender. Right. A summary. Intercourse is continuance of a species. Not for fun. A male penis is, by nature, or God, meant to ejaculate semen (your future bambino) inside the vagina of a woman who is, naturally, carrying an egg awaiting a swimming sperm cell. A male penis does not work when it's in the mouth or anus of another male body. Therefore it's useless to do it. UNLESS YOU WANT AND CHOOSE TO, which is, of course, the way sin is committed.

Here's my views:

Homosexuality is wrong. Plain wrong.

Here is why I think along these lines:

I am an Christain. I believe in the Bible. Clearly in the Bible it states this in the old testament:

"A man shall not lie with a man as a man lies with a woman. In the eyes of God this is destestable."

There are many other scriptures written on the subject.

Besides the FACT that sexaul organs were made to create offspring. As stated above in the last post I do not believe an male anus was made for sex but for taking a crap.

Up here in Oregon we voted to outlaw Gay Marriage. I voted myself to outlaw it. I hope President Bush does as he says and makes Gay Marriage illegal nation-wide.

Now I don't look down on gays. I used to but now I pity them.

Just because Myrr doesn't believe in God, doesn't make his opinions any less valid. Your tone is superior and condescending given you have about as much proof your God exists as Myrr has that God doesn't. If there were a God as you say, he would have to be very bloody patient to put up with this sort of crap...

dynamaso- i did not say myrrander's opinons were not valid, at least in his own mind. What I said is "be careful". A rattlesnake has just as much right to crawl across your backyard as the garden snake... I would just recommend that you be careful about the rattlesnake.

I can assure you He (God) is "very bloody patient" I was lost and undone in my sin for 28 years until I received the mercy and grace found in the person of Christ and His shed BLOOD!

preacherman

What you also said is 'he is blind so to speak'. While I am not trying to defend Myrrander for his beliefs, I am defending the right of an individual's opinion. If you can truthfully tell me you believe his opinion to be as valid as those who say they believe in God, then I will stand corrected.

If you can truthfully tell me you believe his opinion to be as valid as those who say they believe in God

dynamaso I have no problems with individuals believing whatever they choose. To be honest with you, God does not mind either. He gave man the free choice to believe in Him or reject His salvation in Christ. I love the fact that I have the liberty to believe in Him and not be persecuted for that opinon. All Christians can not testify to this (the persecuted church in China, Nigeria, etc...)they die for their faith in Christ.

But what one believes must have a foundation and my beliefs are grounded in the Word of God and the Word of God teaches us that the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.- Romans 1:18-20. Hense the admonition to be careful of Myrrander's beliefs about God.

I do not have a problem with Myrrander's opinions about God or anyone else but the Word of God says the fool hath said in his heart, there is no God. And before anyone accuses me of calling Myrrander or anyone else who does not believe in God a fool..... it is God who said it!
preacherman

I hope President Bush does as he says and makes Gay Marriage illegal nation-wide.

The reason Bush is pushing an anti-gay marriage constitutional amendment is that the conservatives fear the court will uphold gay marriage as being essential for the rights of the individual.
If the court redefines marriage as a contract between two people of any gender, how will that affect our daily lives?
For the record, I condemn the sin of homosexuality while having loving sympathy for the sinner. I also favor an anti-gay marriage amendment, since I also see the writing on the wall.

I do not have a problem with Myrrander's opinions about God or anyone else but the Word of God says the fool hath said in his heart, there is no God

Hmm, I still think you're being overtly judgemental when you continue to use tracts from the bible to state your case. This might work for those who believe the bible, but I don't. In stating you believe the bible, aren't you saying you believe those who don't subscribe to the same beliefs are fools? (I'm not trying to argue, just curious about what you think).

I still think you're being overtly judgemental when you continue to use tracts from the bible to state your case

Do you think that only non-biblical beliefs are considered non-judgemental?

I believe we have to speak what we believe whether it comes from the Word of God or where ever!

For someone not to express what they believe because it may be construed as judgemental or harsh is like trying to force a single minded view into perspective (political correctness). You know what I mean?

In stating you believe the bible, aren't you saying you believe those who don't subscribe to the same beliefs are fools?

Yes, I guess you are right. If someone believes that sex with a child is not wrong, does that mean that our government and laws against pedophilia should not exist for fear the may seem judgemental?

preacherman