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An Invitation to The Truth

An Invitation to The Truth

Hi Folks
How are you. Some-times ago, there used to be a thread ragarding evolution vs creation. this made me to find the real truth based on Scientific Methods. Being a bliever I believed that there is ONE GOD who has created all of us and the whole universe but this site opened a whole universe of new worlds to me.
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Reply #51 Top
Hi Folks!!!!
Just posted this thread and really wodered to see this huge amount of replies but mostly belong to Junk Group...No reasoning...no theory nothing else....Most of friends here have said no thread like this should be ALLOWED here....I ask them why....just because we are not ready to accept the truth that we have made for some purpose....or for the reason that these are all nonsense for this era....If so why...please prove your reply through reasoning...No Personal likeness or dislikes....here is my point of view:

Take a look around you from where you sit. You will notice that everything in the room is "made": the walls, the upholstery, the ceiling, the chair where you sit, the booklet you hold in your hand, the glass on the table and countless other details. None of them happen to exist in your room of their own accord. Even the simple loops of the carpet were made by someone: they did not appear spontaneously or by chance.

A person who is about to read a book knows that it has been written by an author for a specific reason. It would not even occur to him that this book might have come into being by chance. In the same manner, a person who sees a sculpture has no doubt whatsoever that it was made by a sculptor. And not just works of art: even a few bricks resting on top of one another make one think that they must have been brought to rest just so by someone within a certain plan. Therefore, everywhere where there is an order - either small or big - a founder and protector of this order must also exist. If, one day, somebody came forward and said that raw iron and coal came together to form steel by chance, which in turn constructed the Eiffel Tower again by chance, would not he and those who believed him be regarded as insane?

The claim of the theory of evolution, the unique method of denying the existence of God, is no different from this. According to the theory, lifeless atoms formed amino acids by chance, amino acids formed proteins by chance, and finally proteins formed living creatures again by chance. However, the probability of a living creature being formed by coincidence is less than the probability of the Eiffel Tower being formed in the same manner, because even the simplest living cell is more sophisticated than any man-made structure in the world.

How is it possible to think that the balance in the world came about by coincidence when the extraordinary harmony of nature is observable even with the naked eye? It is the most unreasonable claim to say that the universe, each point of which suggests the existence of its Creator, has come into being on its own.

Therefore, there should be a designer of the balance visible everywhere from our body to the farthest corners of the inconceivably vast universe. So, who is this Creator that ordained everything so subtly and created all?

He cannot be any material being present within the universe, because His must be a will that existed before the universe and created the universe therewith. The Almighty Creator is One in Whom everything finds existence, yet Whose existence is without any beginning or end.

Religion teaches us the identity of our Creator Whose existence we discover with our reason. Through what He has revealed to us as religion, we know that He is God, the Compassionate and the Merciful, Who created the heavens and the earth from nothing.

Although most people have the capability to grasp this fact, they spend their lives unaware of it. When they look at a landscape painting, they wonder who its painter is. Later, they praise the artist at length for his beautiful work of art. Despite the fact that they face numerous originals of the natural world he painted the moment they turn around, they still disregard the existence of God, Who is the only owner of all these beauties. In truth, no lengthy research is needed to understand the existence of God. Even if one of us had to live in a room from the time he was born, countless pieces of evidence in this room alone would be enough for him to grasp the existence of God.

The human body so overflows with evidence that it could not be contained in many multi-volumed encyclopaedias. Giving only a few minutes of conscientious thought to it all is enough to understand the existence of God. The present order is protected by God and maintained by Him.

The human body is not the only food for thought. Life abides in every square millimetre of the earth, be it observable by men or not. The world overflows with many living beings, from unicellular organisms to plants, from insects to sea animals, and from birds to human beings. If you take a handful of soil and look at it, even therein you can discover manifold living creatures with diverse characteristics. The same is true also for the air you breathe. Even on your skin, there are many living creatures whose names are unknown to you. In the intestines of all living beings are millions of bacteria or unicellular organisms that help digestion. The animal population in the world is many times greater than the human population. When we also consider the plant world, we see that there is not a single spot on the earth where there is no life. All of these creatures that are spread over an area of millions of square kilometres have different body systems, different lives and different contributions to the ecological balance. It is preposterous to claim that all these have come into existence by chance with no aim or purpose. No living being has come to exist through its own accord or effort. No coincidental happening can ever result in such complicated systems.

All of this evidence leads us to the conclusion that the universe works with a certain "consciousness". What, then, is the source of this consciousness? Surely it is neither the living nor the non-living beings in it. Nor can they be the ones that maintain the harmony and preserve the order. The existence and glory of God reveals itself in countless proofs in the universe. In fact, there is not even a single man on the earth who will not accept this evident reality from the heart. Yet they still deny it "in iniquity and arrogance, though their souls are convinced thereof" as stated in the Qur'an. (The Qur'an, 27:14)

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Reply #52 Top
One thing I find so sad about this whole thing is how hard it is sometimes for ppl to find God always searching in the tools left for us but then getting so lost by them in the end? fighting and even killing over the "wordings or the ppl" who even "try" or attempt but sometimes fail to explain who God is.

Maybe cuz God is a Holy Spirit which makes it so difficult to show others who he is and there is no perfect way on earth to put him into "words" to satisfy our human nature, since we always have to "see & feel" and God is not something we can touch physically or see? (until we are done and are too a spirit according to common sense and faith) hehe
Reply #53 Top
^^Arkantos^^, what you are saying, that everything is made and that god created us. Do you mean nothing is evolving?

Then answer this question: Who created god?

You can answere that simply by saying "God always existed" but lets be reasonable, if he always existed, why did it took so long before he created us?


Another thing I cant understand:

Some extreme 'believers' are claiming the world isn't older then 6000 year (or something like that...) when you ask them to look at a fosil they claim "God created them".

Yeah sure, like god created something without having a reason for it. The only reason I could come up with why god create the fosil is because he wants us to believe the world is XXXXX years old.
If god is trying to make us believe that, then he is trying to make us believe he dasn't exist.
If that is what he is trying, then what is the point of believing?

Try to answer that question.
I dare you.
Reply #54 Top
Styl why would Arkantos have the answers? he's not God? Only God knows (maybe it's cuz he got lonely after a bazillion years and thought okay today I will make me some company?) hehe?
not one of us has the answers to anything just cuz we "think" we may have a clue that there is a God.

dates and fosils and all that stuff oh boy, here everyone goes off the path of God and begin to chase after stats and proof... (something to satisfy their human nature, when being and thinking in human ways only draws you farther away from God)
Reply #55 Top
As far as I'm concerned the world is only 46 years old, and I can't verify that with great certainty (my memory isn't that good}. I challenge anyone to prove it's older
Reply #56 Top
Fuzzy....I'm 49...so it's at least 49...
Reply #57 Top
I have no evidence of that, only your word, which is as good as any other 'word'
Reply #59 Top
well I have "Faith" the world is alil older than that! and also Thank God I don't know that for sures yettt. hehe
Reply #60 Top
Well your mother is living proof
she had to be at least 13 to have you
Reply #61 Top
Can you imagine the first question everyone wants to ask God is "Umm excuse me but who made you?"
and "How old exactly is earth again"
Reply #62 Top
my mom older yes but she acts younger than me so I don't trust her either... hehe
Reply #63 Top

latin4567....even THAT statement is wrong.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing....and you are the most dangerous person on this site.

Reply #65 Top
all kidding aside though you really cannot look at our earth and the stars, sky and everything natural (try to ignore the traffic and smog) and think this whole thing is by accident?
God must be the best artist around, cuz you'll never see anything more beautiful than what is created by him. all everyone else does is try to duplicate.
Reply #66 Top
what? latin is dangerous?
/me runs...
Reply #67 Top
anyways, these threads about God are too much work on my brain and me is tired so g'night you guys, night Fuzzy and Jafo the macro... hehe KISS
Reply #68 Top
Nite, Doreen...good to see you around and about...at your age....
Reply #69 Top
Night Doreen, sweet dreams
Reply #70 Top
Doreen, as far as I can remember, arkantos was inviting me to the truth, what kind of truth is it if he can't answer 2 simple questions.

And... Not to be mean or somethink don't get this wrong!! but how comes that religion is the strongest in the countries where they haven't got much money?

Ever tought about it that it could be possible that god didn't create us, but that we created god?
Reply #71 Top
/me echos Styl skinner by quoting someone who I can't remember who:

"If god didn't exist, we'd have to invent one"

IMHO, I'm always amazed why would anyone choose to add something to their view of universe for which there is no evidence....and even more amazed when the thing they choose to add has so many obvious contradictions (1. everything has to be made, 2. god made everything - but why not apply rule 1 to rule 2? and since 1 is disproved by the world around us with quantum fluctuations and order emerging from chaos through self organisation, even rule 1 seems completely arbitrary).

In my non-skinning life, I'm involved in a ghost investigation group (no, I don't believe in them either) - what I find facinating is how people seem to be able to pick and choose, almost at random, what arbitrary theory to apply to things they can't explain. Be ut UFOs, ghosts, crop circles, or the biggie of the universe, it seems there is no rhyme or reason needed for about half the population to accept anything at all as an explanation....more than that even - once they've picked something to attribute it to, they'll defend that decision to the death with ever increasingly complex "explanations" if challenged or if presented with counter evidence.

What have I learned from this? That humans are a weird bunch, and the sooner I get off this planet back home the better
Reply #72 Top
/me hits Jafo w/ her cane

Styl Thank God I'm not God so I don't have to have all the answers, I can just shoot a guess? hehe
(Anyways I really don't know but maybe cuz where there is less money there is less things in this world to pre-occupy our time w/ therefore they find God more easily?) who knows really?
Reply #73 Top
Ok doreen, last question, if god eisted, why didn't he make us skinable j/k
Reply #74 Top
we are, haven't you seen that new show on TV called extreme make-overs? ack! so sickening... hehe