Groupy2 and Firefox

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. But, not sure what you are looking at. Please post a video of this issue somewhere, youtube for example, and share its link here.

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

I think I found it.  Adding Firefox to the Grouping Rules > Block / Allow Applications, and ensuring the "Only allow specified applications to be in a Group" option is disabled seems to work.  Groupy2 now allows me to move a Firefox tab without Groupy creating a new Firefox window automatically grouped with the origin window.

Under Grouping Rules > Automatic window grouping, the note at the bottom says, "You can create new automatic groupings from the Groupy menu on the Groupy bar."  What does this mean?  What Groupy bar?

Great, glad you have figure it out.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Might I suggest that since that portion of the UI suggests one can block AND permit application grouping, users be permitted to do so by entry.  As it currently reads it's all or nothing - either all listed applications are blocked or all are permitted depending on the state of the check box.

Have you look into Groupy 2 Grouping Rules yet? https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1486520345/Groupy+2+UI%3A+Grouping+Rules

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Basj,

I find these documentation pages mostly unhelpful since they simply repeat the text contained in the application without edification.  It's as if someone wrote the in-app text (the briefest text practical for the UI), copied it, and inserted it on the webpage "documentation" page.  Repetition isn't help.  The documentation entries should be expansive.

For example, I find no clear, detailed explanation of the intent of and interaction between Block / Allow Applications, Custom Rules, and Automatic Window Grouping.  The latter is a section that doesn't provide a clear way to add an entry other that the cryptic "...from the Groupy menu on the Groupy bar."

I struggled to find documentation entries for the Groupy bar, other than on the General tab where it mentions the bar becomes visible when hovering over title bars but is only available on ungrouped windows and, potentially, windows without a custom title bar (some gotchas there😛).  Experimenting with a few applications revealed the trick, but I shouldn't have to hunt and peck.  The help on this feature is lacking clarity and a useful example.  It could be improved.

Consequently, I would suggest that any functionality referenced on one page be linked to the corresponding feature page and section.  Internal cross-reference navigation would be useful.

At least, for my experience, I now know where the "bar" and associated menu can be found.  In fact, it's not dissimilar to Groupy1.

Maybe you need users smarter than me🤣

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Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

I suspect you mean the 'UI' pages found in the Stardock Help Center, Groupy 2 being just a few weeks old:

https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1486848001/Groupy+2+UI

While all of the 'UI' sections are organic (will grow over time), their primary purpose is to add further context to UI elements and (if possible) illustrate use; for example, this entire page has examples of what happens when a feature is enabled \ used:

https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1486946305/Groupy+2+UI%3A+Tab+Appearance

Start11, which has many more months of growth, has them as well:

https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1435762693/Start11+UI%3A+Windows+7+and+Modern+Style

Again, there are many pages \ examples like this and more will be added over time.  What it won't evolve into is a 'manual' detailing advanced usage topics.  For any such material or items that clients have requested or we have found repeated questions about, they will be detailed further under 'Information and Usage' (also where the UI documentation starts).

https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1349877761/Groupy+Information+%26+Usage

If you believe others would be helped with something added there, we would certainly entertain it.  If you have written \ recorded something already from your research, we would welcome the submission for possibly adding it directly to the documentation.

Thanks for the feedback, ddminnl

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Sean,

Thanks for the reply and, yes, I meant your Groupy UI pages.  To me, at least, these are a subset on your Documentation page but I understand what  you're saying.

I will await any additions made to the Groupy UI pages.  I won't have much, if any, time to draft and submit additions so I can't promise anything.  I didn't realize you intended that detailing the UI pages would be a community effort.

It sounds like you have excluded Firefox now.

Groupy shouldn't have any impact on dragging native firefox tabs.  It will only care about Groupy tabs.

The Groupy bar is the bar of tabs which appears at the top of the window.

The option can only have one of two states.  Either items in the list are never included in groups, or they are the only windows allowed to be in groups.  Having both defined wouldn't make any sense as if you have a list of excluded apps then by definition anything not excluded is included and likewise if the list is for only apps included then by definition anything not included is excluded.

Hopefully that makes sense.