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Start11 1.39.1 Release Feedback Thread

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Start11 1.39.1 Release Feedback Thread

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With the Start11 1.39.1 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining Start11 1.39.1

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and links included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #26 from Stardock Forums Top

I have been using Start11 since I installed Windows 11, Just after release. In that time I have applied previous updates with no issues.

I had the Windows 10 layout and 4 menu sets

Since the latest upgrade I have lost all of my settings and I cannot re-set to the Windows 10 layout.

The below image is using Windows 10, Windows 7, Modern

Appreciate any advice.

Thanks

Kevin

 

Reply #27 from Stardock Forums Top

Hi!

Been using stardock for a while. After updating to 1.39 Half of the icons are clipped from my view and the clock is too far down. It looks like the same issue happening on the second screen, but this is the only screen on my laptop. I uninstalled and reinstalled but still have the same issue. Winver and issue screenshots are attached. Thanks!

 

 

 

 

Groupy 2 - Organize multiple applications into grouped tabs on your Windows desktop
Reply #28 from Stardock Forums Top

Windows 11 PRO Version 10.0.22621 Build 22621
Start11: v1.39.1

Monitors: 4
Taskbar: Top Aligned and set to small

Issues:
After the latest Start11 update (+ windows updates), the start menu icon and clock are bigger than before, and this offsets the Taskbar icons next to the clock, as well as just looks a bit odd with the date cut in half, this happens on all monitors.

One time it set the pop-out menu with the notification and calendar, to show in the middle of the screen, It went away after a reboot, will update if I can reproduce.

It looks OK with medium size, but I really like the taskbar to very small, so I would rather keep that until fixed :)

Tried:
1. I have tried to uninstall, reboot, and install again, this made no change.
2. Toggled settings for size, bigger looks ok, but always broken when small.

Temporarily solved with the 1.4 beta download!

Screenshots

Screenshot of pop-out position

Reply #29 from Stardock Forums Top

Just updated to the latest version 1.39.1

And after rebooting the taskbar is approx. 5/16" from going all the way to the top of the screen.  Yes I restarted explorer.  rebooted it again. uninstalled it, rebooted, reinstalled it and got the same problem.  Moving it to the bottom and then back didn't fix it either.....

I have Win11  22H2  v.22621.1344

Asus Laptop

 

Reply #30 from Stardock Forums Top

I also wanted to add that the taskbar resize feature is NOT working.....change between the 3 sizes, do restart explorer, and the taskbar DOESN'T change size at all.

Reply #31 from Stardock Forums Top
Quoting kirkdj, reply 29

Just updated to the latest version 1.39.1

And after rebooting the taskbar is approx. 5/16" from going all the way to the top of the screen.  Yes I restarted explorer.  rebooted it again. uninstalled it, rebooted, reinstalled it and got the same problem.  Moving it to the bottom and then back didn't fix it either.....

I have Win11  22H2  v.22621.1344

Asus Laptop

 

Reduced 35%
Original 1920 x 1080


End of kirkdj's quote

 

check that topic:

Start11 1.4 Beta Feedback Thread » Forum Post by sdRohan (stardock.com)

Reply #32 from Stardock Forums Top

Uh, hey guys, Morty here. So, I was looking at my dock the other day and I noticed something kind of weird. I can rearrange all my app icons, except for the ones that are part of a group. You know, like Firefox with all those windows open.

It's like they're stuck together or something. But, you know, it's not like I'm trying to break up a family or anything. I just wanna move 'em around a little, you know?

I mean, it's not like it's the end of the world or anything, but it's just one of those things that bugs me, you know? Like when Rick forgets to pick up the groceries or when Jerry starts singing in the car.

So, if any of you tech whizzes out there can figure out a way to let us reorder these group apps, that would be, like, totally awesome. And if not, well, that's okay too. It's not like we're dealing with a portal gun here or anything.

Thanks for listening, guys. Morty, out.

Reply #33 from Stardock Forums Top

After updating to the latest release i have lost the clock and all the icons by the clock. I had to uninstall to get them back.

Reply #34 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting askm1976, reply 33

After updating to the latest release i have lost the clock and all the icons by the clock. I had to uninstall to get them back.
End of askm1976's quote

If you are on insider builds of Windows....

https://forums.stardock.com/517175/start11-14-beta-feedback-thread

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #36 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting askm1976, reply 35

I'm not on any insider build.
End of askm1976's quote

I imagine you installed the optional preview update Microsoft released yesterday.

You need the 1.4 beta.

Reply #37 from Stardock Forums Top

I also have the same problem as @askm1976 - no tray icons or clock on Task Bar.

I am not on an insider build, and no optional preview either. But I did install:

Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5022913)

just before Start11 stopped working properly.

 

I have solved my issue by going to Start 11 settings and turning off 'Let Start11 enhance the Taskbar'. So back to ugly Windows task bar, but at least it has a clock and tray icons.

Reply #38 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting annabels, reply 37

I also have the same problem as @askm1976 - no tray icons or clock on Task Bar.

I am not on an insider build, and no optional preview either. But I did install:

Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5022913)

just before Start11 stopped working properly.

 

I have solved my issue by going to Start 11 settings and turning off 'Let Start11 enhance the Taskbar'. So back to ugly Windows task bar, but at least it has a clock and tray icons.

End of annabels's quote

That was an optional preview update.  If you install the beta 1.4 update you should be fine as it has support for it.

Reply #39 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 38


Quoting annabels,
reply 37

I also have the same problem as @askm1976 - no tray icons or clock on Task Bar.

I am not on an insider build, and no optional preview either. But I did install:



Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5022913)

just before Start11 stopped working properly.

 

I have solved my issue by going to Start 11 settings and turning off 'Let Start11 enhance the Taskbar'. So back to ugly Windows task bar, but at least it has a clock and tray icons.



That was an optional preview update.  If you install the beta 1.4 update you should be fine as it has support for it.

End of Neil's quote

 

Thanks.

I installed beta 1.4 - and now my taskbar is nicely customised |-) and with clock and functional tray icons

Reply #40 from Stardock Forums Top

Start11 1.39.1 is broken since the newest Windows 11 update (22H2, build 22621.1344).

Edit: Wtiching to 1.4 Beta fixed the issue, although now there's a search bar on my taskbar for some reason.

Reply #41 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting luthor112, reply 40

Start11 1.39.1 is broken since the newest Windows 11 update (22H2, build 22621.1344).

Edit: Wtiching to 1.4 Beta fixed the issue, although now there's a search bar on my taskbar for some reason.
End of luthor112's quote

That search bar is Microsoft.  You can remove it from Windows taskbar settings.

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Reply #42 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Neil, reply 41

That search bar is Microsoft.  You can remove it from Windows taskbar settings.
End of Neil's quote

 

Awesome, found it! Thank you!

Reply #43 from Stardock Forums Top

systray Normal systray (without language icon)

language selection normal systray (with language icon)

Seems systray crowding is still occurring with version 1.39.1. The referenced thread, https://forums.stardock.com/516824/start11-systray-crowding, is locked, hence comments here. My device is a laptop driving 2 external monitors with extended mode enabled. Windows 11 Enterprise 21H2, OS build, 22000.1574, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.1574.0. The problem still occurs randomly, though less frequently with version 1.39.1. The occurrence is related with the appearance/disappearance of the language selection icon (in this image, ENG US) and with the notifications icon (in this image, 7). The language selection icon can be easily made to disappear by switching to an open remote desktop window and it reappears when you return focus back to any other window. Unfortunately, I have not been able to provoke to issue on demand. Hopefully, the language icon repainting tip assists in the investigation.

Reply #44 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting audeie, reply 43

Seems systray crowding is still occurring with version 1.39.1. The referenced thread, https://forums.stardock.com/516824/start11-systray-crowding, is locked, hence comments here. 
End of audeie's quote

The reason the thread was locked is stated in the last post:

https://forums.stardock.com/516824/get;3880445

Reply #37 March 2, 2023 9:56:03 AM 
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As MS has made changes to the systray (still pending for the general public) that address this issue, this thread will be closed. 

Thanks to all that provided feedback, time, and data.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #46 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting kevinstone53, reply 45

Fixed using the beta 1.4

Thanks

Kevin
End of kevinstone53's quote

Pleased to hear it and thank you for the update.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #47 from Stardock Forums Top

Start 11 version 1.39.1

Windows 11 Pro version 22H2 OS build 22621.1344 running on Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz   2.59 GHz

Start11 uninstalled (including settings), reboot, and then latest version downloaded and reinstalled

Problem does not go away.

Problem description:  After using Windows Update to install 2023-02 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5022913), the following problems occurred.  They did not exist prior to installing update KB5022913.

1.  System tray icons are always aligned at the very bottom of the taskbar, even if vertical centering of the icons is selected.  There is no margin (no pixels) between the bottom edge of the icon and the bottom edge of the screen.

2. System tray icons are widely spaced, compared to the more "normal" spacing of the icons on the left of the taskbar.

3. Clock time and date in the system tray extend below the bottom of the screen.  Only the top 1/3 of the characters in the date are visible.

4. Start button size cannot be made SMALL.  It stays the default size.  It also stays bottom-aligned even if vertical centering of icons is selected.  As a result, the taskbar cannot be made small - it also stays the default height.   Button is configured to be at the left.

5. Task view button size cannot be made SMALL.  It stays the default size.  It also stays bottom-aligned even if vertical centering of icons is selected.  As a result, the taskbar cannot be made small - it also stays the default height.

Icons not listed in problems 1, 4, and 5 can be resized to SMALL (good!) and vertically centered (good!).

All problems described above occur on all displays in use at the same time for a given computer. 

Reply #48 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Rompert, reply 47

Start 11 version 1.39.1

Windows 11 Pro version 22H2 OS build 22621.1344 running on Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H CPU @ 2.60GHz   2.59 GHz

Start11 uninstalled (including settings), reboot, and then latest version downloaded and reinstalled

Problem does not go away.

Problem description:  After using Windows Update to install 2023-02 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5022913), the following problems occurred.  They did not exist prior to installing update KB5022913.

1.  System tray icons are always aligned at the very bottom of the taskbar, even if vertical centering of the icons is selected.  There is no margin (no pixels) between the bottom edge of the icon and the bottom edge of the screen.

2. System tray icons are widely spaced, compared to the more "normal" spacing of the icons on the left of the taskbar.

3. Clock time and date in the system tray extend below the bottom of the screen.  Only the top 1/3 of the characters in the date are visible.

4. Start button size cannot be made SMALL.  It stays the default size.  It also stays bottom-aligned even if vertical centering of icons is selected.  As a result, the taskbar cannot be made small - it also stays the default height.   Button is configured to be at the left.

5. Task view button size cannot be made SMALL.  It stays the default size.  It also stays bottom-aligned even if vertical centering of icons is selected.  As a result, the taskbar cannot be made small - it also stays the default height.

Icons not listed in problems 1, 4, and 5 can be resized to SMALL (good!) and vertically centered (good!).

All problems described above occur on all displays in use at the same time for a given computer. 
End of Rompert's quote

Please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/517175/start11-14-beta-feedback-thread

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Reply #49 from Stardock Forums Top

The problem for me is related to a windows update KB5022913 on 2-14-23.  If I install this update, my taskbar at the top is about a 1/4" from the top of the screen........if I uninstall this Windows update, all goes back to normal and correct.  I checked and the KB update does the same to previous versions of Start 11 too.  So it's not just the 1.39 version, even though that's when it started for me because it was the 1st update made after Feb. 14th and this Win11 update.

This problem occurs regardless of what version of Start 11 is installed..........This Windows 11 update is for changes MS made in the taskbar...... Stardock needs to address these changes in their programs.

This most likely the problem causing other problems with their taskbars too.  

READ HERE  

 February 28, 2023—KB5022913 (OS Build 22621.1344) Preview - Microsoft Support 

 

 

Reply #50 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting kirkdj, reply 49

The problem for me is related to a windows update KB5022913 on 2-14-23.  If I install this update, my taskbar at the top is about a 1/4" from the top of the screen........if I uninstall this Windows update, all goes back to normal and correct.  I checked and the KB update does the same to previous versions of Start 11 too.  So it's not just the 1.39 version, even though that's when it started for me because it was the 1st update made after Feb. 14th and this Win11 update.

This problem occurs regardless of what version of Start 11 is installed..........This Windows 11 update is for changes MS made in the taskbar...... Stardock needs to address these changes in their programs.

This most likely the problem causing other problems with their taskbars too.  

READ HERE  

 February 28, 2023—KB5022913 (OS Build 22621.1344) Preview - Microsoft Support 

 

 
End of kirkdj's quote

You just need the 1.4 beta update to Start11 that's available in your downloads on the Stardock store.