Start 11 - Mouse clicks are passed through active window

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Windows 11 Home Version 21H2 build 22000.318, Start Menu 11 v1.0. Start Menu is on, button to the left, using a custom button, Windows 7 style.

I'll have a program open, it doesn't seem to matter what the program is, the program is not full screen and not overlapping the task bar, and when I click on in the program window to do something (type, click a button, etc.), the mouse-click is passed through to Start Menu 11 and I'll get an Explorer window. I'll click the title bar of my program to give it focus, and when I click in the program window again, I'll get the same Explorer window.

It is hard to reproduce this action.

It does not happen if Start Menu 11 is off.

Any ideas? Thanks.

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello,

I have forwarded your report to the Stardock support team for their review and recommendations.

Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates.

We really do appreciate your feedback, thanks.

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello,

Sorry to hear you are having trouble.

Are you still seeing that with the 1.19.1 beta released yesterday?

If so, could you post a link to a video of the issue?

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

I don't know where the beta download is on your web site.

Additional info: If I have Word on top of FireFox (it doesn't matter what the two programs are), sometimes clicking in Word clicks FireFox instead. Turning off Start11 causes a click in Word to be received by Word.

I will try to record a video when it happens again, but only after I install the latest beta version. Clicking the Check Now for update button tells me I have the latest version 1.01.

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

I am seeing a similar problem related to the mouse pointer.  Whenever I click on the start menu and select a program, the mouse goes straight to the center right edge corner of the screen and I have to move it back to the center.  This is extremely annoying and I'm hesitant to leave start active as it is seriously disrupting my work.

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting alexvojacek, reply 6

I am seeing a similar problem related to the mouse pointer.  Whenever I click on the start menu and select a program, the mouse goes straight to the center right edge corner of the screen and I have to move it back to the center.  This is extremely annoying and I'm hesitant to leave start active as it is seriously disrupting my work.
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Are you using a normal mouse or something else which might interact with the mouse?

Thats certainly not normal behaviour.

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting CharlesKistler, reply 3

I don't know where the beta download is on your web site.

Additional info: If I have Word on top of FireFox (it doesn't matter what the two programs are), sometimes clicking in Word clicks FireFox instead. Turning off Start11 causes a click in Word to be received by Word.

I will try to record a video when it happens again, but only after I install the latest beta version. Clicking the Check Now for update button tells me I have the latest version 1.01.
End of CharlesKistler's quote

This is most odd as Start11 has no ability to influence which window gets a mouse message as thats handled by Windows at a much lower level.

It shouldn't even be possible for a window thats physically under another window to get a mouse message unless the window above it is marked as transparent to mouse clicks.

I assume this isn't a case of having say word with focus, clicking on the start button to open the start menu and then when clicking away from the start menu causes a problem?  It is in normal use when the menu hasn't been touched at all in some time?

Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top

So far, the problem has not reared its head since installing the beta.

Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

Well it is happening to me, all the time.  If I disable start11 the problem goes away.

Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top

I sporadically have the same mouse-click pass-through problem.

Can I repeat this action? Once it starts, shifting focus usually cures it, so no, I can't. I've simulated it with these images. Thank you for your help.

Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

Do you have animations enabled or disabled for Start11?

Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top

Accessibility -> Visual effects -> Animation effects -> Off

Advanced settings:

Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting CharlesKistler, reply 16

Accessibility -> Visual effects -> Animation effects -> Off

Advanced settings:


End of CharlesKistler's quote

Could you try enabling those and also the animation effects inside Start11 itself and see if the problem goes away?

Reply #20 from Stardock Forums Top

So far, with animations turned on, there have been no issues with mouse clicks being passed through.

Reply #21 from Stardock Forums Top

I've fixed the slow start animation (low fps or stuttering) by just using Wallpaper Engine.  What gives??

As long as I have wallpaper engine enabled, everything is super fluid and the slow animation never presented itself again.

Reply #22 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting alexvojacek, reply 21

I've fixed the slow start animation (low fps or stuttering) by just using Wallpaper Engine.  What gives??

As long as I have wallpaper engine enabled, everything is super fluid and the slow animation never presented itself again.
End of alexvojacek's quote

It sounds like your video card may have down clocked itself to save power so much it couldn't animate fast enough but wallpaper engine is using the card more so it is running at a higher clock speed.

Reply #24 from Stardock Forums Top

This is still happening to me on Windows 10 22H2! Basically makes this program a waste of money. I'm forced to use ClassicShell instead.

RTX 3060, Start Menu animation is enabled

Reply #25 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting shihonage, reply 24

This is still happening to me on Windows 10 22H2! Basically makes this program a waste of money. I'm forced to use ClassicShell instead.

RTX 3060, Start Menu animation is enabled
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Thats very strange as all the reports were on Windows 11 and the problem was to the best of my knowledge resolved and specific to Windows 11 and how certain parts of Start11 worked which have since changed.

Could you explain in more detail exactly what happens?