Mountain Biker's Anonymous...

Home-made / own design space-frame & dual suspension....mostly XT, but drum brakes [not disks].
21 speed...lowest gear 14 inch....front end twin leading link 'springer' fork....concealed cables.....estimated 'cost' [including labour]...Aus $4600...

mm Hybreds fit in?

or do I have to wait until I get the Sugar?

My poor bike, it feels so old
'96 Yeti custom fit (XC) Ti frame
Rock Shox Judy TT's
all xtr
959 pedals
mavic 317's
stem/seatpost/all custom Yeti Ti

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This is my main bike, Nivana, I ride because, well, Florida is flat

Main frame : Silver Series aluminum hybrid
Fork : InSync Odesa 168 | 45mm travel
Headset : Direct connect 1-1/8 inch semi-cartridge
Bottom bracket : Shimano BB-CT92
Crank : Shimano FC-T303 | 48/38/28
Pedals : Alloy cage, clipless adaptable
Front derailleur : Shimano Nexave 301
Rear derailleur : Shimano Deore SGS
Shifters : Gripshift Centera
Cassette : Shimano HG-50 | 11-30 | 8 speed
Chain : HG50
Front hub : Alloy
Front rim : Bontrager Fairlane
Front spokes : 14G stainless steel
Rear hub : Shimano C201
Rear rim : Bontrager Fairlane
Rear spokes : 14G stainless steel
Front Tire : Bontrager Invert II | 700x38c
Rear tire : Bontrager Invert II | 700x38c
Front brake : Alloy direct pull
Rear brake : Alloy linear pull
Brake levers : Alloy linear pull
Handlebar : Bontrager Crowbar Sport
Stem : Alloy direct connect, adjustable rise
Grips : Fisher dual-density
Saddle : Oasis
Seatpost : Suspension, alloy
Replaceable derailleur hanger | 2 water bottle mounts


Here are the specs on the Wahoo...

Main frame Silver Series aluminum
Fork RockShox Judy TT | 80mm travel
Headset Direct connect 1-1/8 inch semi-cartridge
Bottom bracket Cartridge
Crank Suntour XCC-150 | 42/34/24
Pedals Nylon ATB platform
Front derailleur Shimano C050
Rear derailleur Shimano Acera
Shifters Shimano EF29
Cassette SRAM 5.0 | 11-32 | 8 speed
Chain IG-31
Front hub Alloy sealed QR
Front rim Matrix 550
Front spokes 14G stainless steel
Rear hub Shimano RM-40
Rear rim Matrix 550
Rear spokes 14G stainless steel
Front Tire Bontrager Connection | 26x1.95
Rear tire Bontrager Connection | 26x1.95
Front brake Alloy linear pull
Rear brake Alloy linear pull
Brake levers Shimano EF29
Handlebar 30mm rise
Stem AHS 25d
Grips Fisher dual-density
Saddle Fisher ATB
Seatpost Alloy micro adjust
Anything else? 2 water bottle mounts

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I ride a Kona of course.

But I really want on of these:
http://www.konaworld.com/kw_index.cfm

All 2003 XTR!!!!

Kona0197 Drools!

The "pedals" on the bike I ride are actually of the 250cc titanium-valve dry sump 4 stroke variety but if I had to get a "pushie" the Honda RN01 looks real nice:

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/auto/article/0,12543,447792,00.html and
http://www.pinkbike.com/php/photolist.php3?keyword=Honda_RN01

I especially like the Showa front forks!

Hey chris... if it has a motor it AIN'T a mountian bike. We are discussing bicycles...

But the pic of the honda bikes are nice. That bike was on the cover of my mountain bike action last month. I like those forks bit they can not hold a candle to Manitous dorado forks. Also that bike is to heavy for my tastes. I am a cross country geek!

I think I can tell a pushie from a motorbike Kona! I ride my trailbike in the mountains so whats the prob?

It's just that I'd like to get a mountainbike so I was interested in this thread from that POV - that's all.

Any recommendations for a newbie (something available in OZ)? I really prefer value for money over outright high spec.

Personally I like Gary Fisher bikes and TREK...
Here is the Trek AU wec site you can find a local dealer there.

http://www.trekbikes.com.au/

Hey! Great - thanks

think I can tell a pushie from a motorbike Kona! I ride my trailbike in the mountains so whats the prob?

no prob just a little misunderstanding on my part.

Personally I like Gary Fisher bikes and TREK...

over rated...

how about a seven or a intense?

Here are some of my favorites...

http://www.intensecycles.com/
http://www.sevencycles.com/mountain/duo1.html
http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/03/cusa/model-3VG2.html
http://www.konaworld.com/kw_index.cfm
http://www.giant-bicycle.com/us/030.000.000/030.000.000.asp?dealerid=&dealercountry=&lYear=2003&bikesection=8817&range=111&model=10660

over rated




Cannondale is one I also like. my wife has a Giant in the garage that she rides and it has held up very well.

But I would take a Sugar Team anyday of the week....

I still got my Specialized Rock Hopper with first gen Judy's, all xt and first gen grip shift

Great around town bike

IP the problem I have with the Sugar is that it has a bob problem. Every time you pedal, the rear suspension bobs.

The Giant VT, Intense Spider, Seven Duo, Santa Cruz Blur, and the Specialized epic all have NO BOB rear ends. They were designed for NO BOB. Bob drives me nuts.

Did you know that Trek owns Fisher and makes his bikes? They do not have the quality they once had.

BTW the specialized epic has been hailed as the HOLY GRAIL of mountain bikes and I agree. see it here:

FROM SPECIALIZED.COM:
Just how good is the new Epic? Velo News says “Specialized has found the Holy Grail. And the Epic is the new messiah.” Uncompromising suspension in the rough stuff and a hardtail-firm pedaling platform for less demanding terrain. And you know what that means, right? Now you can drop your friends on the climbs and, with our fully independent FSR suspension on your side, smoke ‘em on the downhills too

http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkModel.jsp?san=03SWorksFSRRimBrake&bl=mountain&JServSessionIdroot=b3y8fhoi0i.j27005
http://www.specialized.com/SBCBrain.jsp?JServSessionIdroot=b3y8fhoi0i.j27005
http://www.mountainbike.com/news/news/news_20020624-29702.shtml

Wow, some of these bikes are so expensive! You guys are making me feel a lot better for spending $950 on my pool cue! I also understand the need to have the best...even if it costs you $3000+. You only live once.

You only live once.

sometimes twice after the wife finds 2500 missing out of the bank account and a new set of wheels hiding in the garage then kills you

Yeah Bicycles... I remember breaking my arm in three places jumping a car couch on a dare back in the day. ahhh those were the day's

does any one here read mountain bike action like i do?

Some time ago....don't read bike mags too often lately....prefer the hands-on approach to 'knowing about them'.....BTW, full-suspension bikes......I've ridden one since 1965.....long, long time before the advent of 'Mountain bikes'...

Wow that is somethin...

You can't explain mountain bikes to anyone. Hammering down a rocky trail at 30mph has to be experienced. It's all about being on the edge. The thrill. The excitement. The challenge. Pushing yourself to the limit. Words are inadequate... air speaks.

Or the thrill of pushing your black diamond freeriding rig up the hill... weighing close to 45 pounds!!!!

Ah...the subtle 'snap' of the clavicle....as you test-drive yet another helmet, reminding yourself that front brakes and steep decents are mortal enemies...