Offworld Trading Company Dev Livestream at 3pm EST Today (February 5th)

Every Thursday at 3pm we are planning to have a livestream of Offworld Trading Company with Soren Johnson.  The next one will be happening today, so we’d be excited if you can make the time to join us. 

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If you do happen to miss the livestream we’ll also be posting them to our YouTube channel so you can watch at your convenience.

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Thanks! You guys are awesome.

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Just preordered.  Super excited for the game and I hope it is the success you guys deserve.  

 

Quick question about the end of the multiplayer #3 stream I found on youtube from a few days ago.  As Soren was up against the last opponent at the end, he was basically waiting to get enough money for the final buyout.  Is there any negative to him liquidating his shares in his own company to quickly get enough to buyout the opponent?  

Sure it will drop his share price, but would give him enough to push him over the top for the win.  I could see in a race to the finish like this where everyone is just trying to amass cash and not really buy any new claims or resources that owning your own shares would be a detriment.

 If you sell your shares in yourself, the opponent would have to buy up the rest of your shares, and then do the final buyout whereas you might have enough cash for an immediate win.  Your thoughts are welcome.

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I'm also in the preorder bucket right now, so hopefully someone with more play experience corrects me if I'm wrong.  Stock doesn't appear to work as in the real world.  Your company hasn't issue 10,000 shares that you or someone can buy up until they're gone.  It looks more like each company can buy a certain number of shares (or maybe percentage blocks) in each other company until the buyout button is available.  So, for example, you might be able to buy your own stock 10 times, which increases the stock value, but that doesn't reduce how many times a competitor has to hit the buy button.

What I really don't know is if a competitor buys your stock, if that also increases your stock value.

 

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Quoting Axis1354, reply 3

Just preordered.  Super excited for the game and I hope it is the success you guys deserve.  

 

Quick question about the end of the multiplayer #3 stream I found on youtube from a few days ago.  As Soren was up against the last opponent at the end, he was basically waiting to get enough money for the final buyout.  Is there any negative to him liquidating his shares in his own company to quickly get enough to buyout the opponent?  

Sure it will drop his share price, but would give him enough to push him over the top for the win.  I could see in a race to the finish like this where everyone is just trying to amass cash and not really buy any new claims or resources that owning your own shares would be a detriment.

 If you sell your shares in yourself, the opponent would have to buy up the rest of your shares, and then do the final buyout whereas you might have enough cash for an immediate win.  Your thoughts are welcome.
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that's why you get locked out of the stock market for 8 seconds after you sell your shares. If you sell some of your own shares to do a buyout, then you are going to be more vulnerable to a buyout because your shares are now available for purchase again (and don't need to bought for double value).

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Quoting Tigershawk, reply 4

I'm also in the preorder bucket right now, so hopefully someone with more play experience corrects me if I'm wrong.  Stock doesn't appear to work as in the real world.  Your company hasn't issue 10,000 shares that you or someone can buy up until they're gone.  It looks more like each company can buy a certain number of shares (or maybe percentage blocks) in each other company until the buyout button is available.  So, for example, you might be able to buy your own stock 10 times, which increases the stock value, but that doesn't reduce how many times a competitor has to hit the buy button.

What I really don't know is if a competitor buys your stock, if that also increases your stock value.

 
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The stock market in Offworld definitely does not work like in the real world - it's basically a mechanic that is needed to make the game end in a way that's more interesting than first player to $1m or whatever.

Everytime stock is bought, the price goes up.

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Thanks for the reply.  So, does competitor A buying a bunch of my stock, drive up the price that competitor B has to pay, or maybe even more important, does me buying stock A, by itself, make the next block I buy more expensive?

 

 

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I often like to equate shares in the game to victory points: you need to buy 10 * the number of opponents to win. The performance of yourself and other players determines how expensive those points are to get, and in a pinch you can sell points back at their current value (hopefully at a profit compared to when you bought them). 

They're not like real shares, because when you buy someone's stock they aren't getting money for it (that I'm aware of). The implication is that they've already been issued and you're buying them off the interplanetary market (I assume that your starting cash and assets is the result of that initial offering). They double in price when you are buying shares that a third party owns, for several reasons:

1) If players could choose to sell their stocks in other players at all times, then you might reach a deadlocked position where no one's interested, regardless of offered price (in reality there would be a breaking point, but this is a game where a winner must be declared).

2) By increasing the price of pre-owned shares, you make it dangerous for someone to buy someone else out of ownership, rather than just being a kingmaker of sorts - you're giving the person you AREN'T removing from the game a chance to get the advantage with the extra money you're giving them.

Of course, this doesn't stop two players ( A and B ) from colluding and having Player A simply sell their shares in Player C so that Player B can buy them at normal price. The only difference between this and the normal buyout process is that it can be done at any time and not just when a player is being eliminated, and you aren't giving extra money to the selling player.

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Quoting Tigershawk, reply 7

Thanks for the reply.  So, does competitor A buying a bunch of my stock, drive up the price that competitor B has to pay, or maybe even more important, does me buying stock A, by itself, make the next block I buy more expensive?

 

 
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There is a multiplier to a players stock for shares already bought. its 10% per purchased share, iirc. So buying someones stock makes it more expensive to buy the next share.

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Thx for all the replies.  I'm definitely planning my strategies for next Thursday!  

Also I have Presidents' Day off from work.  (Feb 16).  Hopefully if others have that day off we can get a ton of multiplayer going!😜

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Speaking of that Axis.  I wonder how the multiplayer works.  Is there a lobby or something?

 

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There is a search that shows available games. you can find games and search with various filters.

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Next one is up.  I don't know where #2 is...

 

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There *is* no number 2 (yet), something went wrong during the recording of that tutorial. BTW I took the plunge and pre-ordered, eventhough I usually play TBS (Civ!) rather than RTS. I hope I can keep up, the game seems pretty high paced looking at the streams.

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I've heard Soren say you can play at a lower speed when playing single player.  I'm not sure if that slows down the actual game, or just the economy, since I'm also waiting for Feb. 12.  You can also pause in SP.

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Quoting Tigershawk, reply 15

I've heard Soren say you can play at a lower speed when playing single player.  I'm not sure if that slows down the actual game, or just the economy, since I'm also waiting for Feb. 12.  You can also pause in SP.
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It slows down the economy but not things like how fast you move to claims [EDIT: sorry this is incorrect].

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Quoting Tigershawk, reply 15

I've heard Soren say you can play at a lower speed when playing single player.  I'm not sure if that slows down the actual game, or just the economy, since I'm also waiting for Feb. 12.  You can also pause in SP.
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Yes, I noticed, but as Propbudda says, that doesn't affect everything in the game. I guess I will find out if I can keep up in a few days. I am very much looking forward to it. :rofl:

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The game speed affects everything except the speed of the auctions becau it felt wrong for them to go too fast or too slow. Also, the game speed is moddable, so you can make it as slow as you want...

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Ahh and please tell us that WE ARE ALLOWED to use mods in MP, damn how I hate CIV V and BE to forbid that ..

because I am playing only with my RL Friends and my brother, so we really want to shape it, how we enjoy it the most and that is SLOW :-)

 Wish you luck

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Quoting FlashXAron, reply 19

Ahh and please tell us that WE ARE ALLOWED to use mods in MP, damn how I hate CIV V and BE to forbid that ..

because I am playing only with my RL Friends and my brother, so we really want to shape it, how we enjoy it the most and that is SLOW :)

 Wish you luck
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yes, you will be able to do that by release. Have no idea if that works right now.