Is the Internet breaking down social growth?

I've been on the net since before it was called "the net". For the past 15 years straight I have been on-line since the days of running a network of BBSes back on my C-64.

And the longer I'm on and the more I see, the more I'm convinced that it is having a fundamental change on social behavior of people.

You see, the net is the great equalizer. It's very empowering. Many constraints on human behavior are lifted by it and this can be bad. Very bad. People can say things with relative impunity.

Kids who have grown up with it have never had to really learn about connecting their social behavior with any consequences. A snotty little 15 year old running around annoying people in person would likely suffer physical consequences (i.e. get the crap kicked out of them). This connection between behavior and consequences is actually a pretty useful socializing mechanism. People learn to behave more civily.

But watch out, here comes the net and suddenly kids have found that they cna act out whatever aggressive personality fantasies they may have. There are entire websites where teens behave in ways that are just socially awful. They'd never behave that way in public (I can't imagine some 15 year old speaking to me the way some of these people on the net speak to people).

It makes me wonder how things are going to progress as we become an increasingy virtual society. Adults have always complained that teens "these days" aren't respectful but really and truly there really seems to be a growing problem because of the leveling effect of the Internet.

What do you think?

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Reply #1 Top
You're right...sadly...that's why I kick the snot out of just about any 15 year old I see nowdays....just in case he's the one pissing me off online....

All kidding aside, I think you have a very good point. Without 'suffering' the consequences of their actions (and/or sass), 'kids' don't 'learn' from their rudeness/impoliteness and continue their ways unchecked.

What to do? Maybe I'll start marketing the 'Net Zapper' - a device that attaches to the top your computer and sends a 50,000 volt charge (low amperage, of course) whenever 2 or more people (configurable) send a specific email to the offenders 'snotnose@????.com' address. Just a thought....

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Reply #2 Top
Well said, and it's only going to get worse...
Reply #3 Top
/me just returned from a visit to such a site

Trouble is not so much in the behaviour of said "kids" (wouldn't want to restrict ths to the kids), but more so the complacent behaviour of the admins. People can only fuck around on a site if the admins let them. Same goes for society in general: things can only go wrong if you let it go wrong.

Not saying that admins should be policing the place, but a swift kick/ban can be highly educational.
Reply #4 Top
I have to agree with Frogboy to a point. The internet has given them the freedom to add a few years onto there age and has also enabled them to get guttermouthed. But I think it still boils down to how they are raised. The 30 somethings are to lax in there dicipline and to busy to care, so the kids are running around unsupervised. Just my thoughts.
Reply #5 Top
Many of the sites are run by the kids themselves. Any kid with a cable modem at home can put up a site these days.

Not all kids are obnoxious. Look at how civilized LotsOfSkins are and Chaz is very young. So I don't want to stereotype or anything.

But yea, often times i'll be on some site trying to have a rational discussion and some snot will come on and "flame" me. The lack of consequences for inappropriate behavior is definitely not helping society.
Reply #6 Top
Hum...
I don't know.
I think it may be the case on sites where they are in majority and/or where they are in charge (admins) themselves. On sites like old skinz and here, where most people on the msgboard are adults, they get the virtual crap beat out of them when they try. Read: they get ridiculed, laught at, humiliated even sometimes.

So, no, I don't necessary agree. Kids have always acted like bullies among themselves, but usually sheep out when in minority, in real life or online.
Reply #7 Top
"The lack of consequences for inappropriate behavior is definitely not helping society."
I agree with this Brad, it is not helping at all the society!
It is sad, that society doesn't have yet, the ability for easy solutions to this problem, only fear has that talent.
Reply #8 Top
I'm with Peff....off to beat up on every 15 year-old I see...in case HE'S the one bugging me....

Actually, the net is a great 'melting pot' that the hippies [us] used to sing about...[What we need is....]

It 'could' actually do more good than harm, although dick-heads will still be dickheads in 'Real Life'[tm] as well as on the net.

Crossing social, political, ethnic, age boundaties has got to be a 'Good Thing'[tm]...
Reply #9 Top
I think you are right. I was thinking, though, that as the real world gets more violent, the virtual one might be kind of a haven. No bombs. Then I ran into some of these people. They aren't all kids. Many of them are grown, well placed people. There may be kind of a schism... some people retreating to a virtual haven and other people committing virtual vandalism. Virtual terrorism. >
Reply #10 Top
'boundaties' = 'boundaries'...Spell checker
Reply #11 Top
alt="thanks for teaching me I can do this here"

In case it didn't work, I was impressed by Jafo's mouseover and trying to do one of my own.
Reply #13 Top
I'm not sure the internet is responsible for the behavior as much as it just brings out the worst in those who have no real sense of their relationship with the world. Like Jafo said, they'll be dickheads anywhere, not just on the net. It's a flaw of the modern world that we could breed such a lack of harmony into our own species.

Some people just don't know how to act...