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Why the new Star Wars toys won't sell

Why the new Star Wars toys won't sell

Another Star Wars movie arrives and for the second time in a row the toy
makers are putting out utter garbage. There's nothing worse than seeing toy
makers completely patronize kids with gimmicky stuff that few kids would
want to play with and things that just look lame.

As I peered at the various toys, vehicles, guns, and action figures, I was
just astonished with how out of touch these guys must be. And you know that
they'll blame the movie or Lucasfilm for their eventual failure to sell.

Here's why:

1) There's no goal.
What do I mean? As a kid (started collecting at age 5 when Star Wars came
out) the back of each action figure listed EVERY figure available at the
time. This gave me a goal to try to obtain every single one I could. I
remember after one birthday going hunting with my mom to store after store
trying to find Jawas. But instead, the back of the boxes just show all the
various moveable parts and give no idea how many figures are out there. This
leads to #2.

2) Removable parts = bad thing. Yea, I somehow managed not to lose all those
storm trooper guns when I was a kid but I never used them. Just too much of
a pain and I was always too worried that I'd lose them. To an 8 year old
boy, losing a part is the end of the world and these new action figures
practically beg you to lose half their parts. What the hell were they
thinking?

3) The figures aren't fun to play with together. The action figures are
basically dolls now. The original ones were stiff but easy to stand up
enmasse so that kids could re-enact battles or use their imaginations to
come up with new adventures. But the new ones are so cumbersome that they
are designed that you will play with them one at a time or possibly two at a
time since it's so hard to stand them up or do anything with them. So
surprise surprise, kids aren't going to want to buy a bunch of them. I had
20+ storm troopers for instance. You think any kid is going to want 20
"super battle droids"? That leads to #4

4) The generic figures are either missing or pathetic. Remember the battle
droid figures from Ep 1? Holy cow was that pathetic. Various parts to lose
and they felt so cheap. Compare that battle droid do the speeder bike
trooper from Return of the Jedi. Light years difference. I couldn't even
find a new "Storm trooper" which is really ironic because those are the ones
that might possibly be purchased in quantity by kids. Good action figures
have substance (physically to them). They should be designed for kids to
play with outside and be tough. These seemed to be designed for 30+
nerdlings living in a basement who won't even take them out of their
packaging.

5) The vehicles are pathetic. Why do toy makers think that kids want things
that look cutesy? Kids want things that LOOK as realistic as possible. So
why come out with a slave 1 or jedi fighter or whatever wher ethe colors
have been brightened? I have the original slave 1 still from when I was a
kid, it would kick the new slave 1's ass.

6) The guns. Holy cow, some of them are practically all orange. They look
cheap and have strange colors that aren't realistic at all. Compare them to
say Han Solo's blaster toy which was not a particularly good toy even at the
time but at least didn't patronize the kids.

7) Toys are too specific. I can't just get character A. I have to get
Character A in a particular scenario. "Anakan Skywalker in shower cap!" I
mean come on, how many Anakin's or whatever do they think some kid is going
to want? It was bad enough in the old days having Luke Skywalker in Hoth
outfit and Luke Skywalker in Bespin garb but this is taken to the Nth
degree. It's all back to the first issue - kids want obtainable goals. No
kid is going to whine their way to collect 5 versions of Obi-wan. Just
aren't enough holidays during the year.

I remember when they did this sort of thing with Transformers toys years
ago. I'm sure they just thought that demand for Transformers toys dropped
off. No, it's that kids couldn' t keep up with a constantly increasing
deluge of characters. In their own greed quest, they end up undermining
their sales.

Of course, by Christmas season look for the inevitable "Has Star Wars lost
its merchanidizing ability?" It won't even occur to them that maybe if the
toys that they made weren't utter garbage that kids might want them. My son
is 5 and the first thing he said when he saw the Jango fett figure was "Too
many parts, I'll lose them!"

Pity. And right when Steve is leaving blue's clues too.
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Reply #26 Top
I didn't like Battlestar Galactica as a kid, but when I see it now, its datedness makes it great fun to watch. Can't wait till they rerun Buck Rogers.
Reply #27 Top
Galaxy Quest really sucked. To this day I don't know why anyone lists it amongst their favourites.

I seem to remember I had a few Galactica figures mixed in with my Star Wars ones. I couldn't tell you what they were, as I don't think I ever really watched the show that much, but I do seem to remember one of them had a big bumpy purple head?!
Reply #28 Top
I liked Galaxy Quest!
Reply #29 Top
Of course Star Wars was lame, even the orginal.
All it is really is a SF fairy tale. It has a princess prisoner and a galliant knight running to her rescue. The bad guy is dressed in black while the hero is dressed in white. There is some magic (except it's called "the Force") and it even got swords (except they're made of laser beem instead of metal).
Star Wars is not bad, it's just that it's a fairy tale, and a good one to.

Some of my favorite SF movies:
- 2001
- Planet of the Apes (the originals)
- Brazil
- 1984
- Blade Runner
- Fahrenheit 451
Reply #30 Top
Anyone remember that old 70's TV show ARK II? http://www.tvtome.com/ArkII/index.html

Oh yeah babe, give me a jet pack and a chimpanzee and the world would be mine!
Reply #31 Top
Oh wow! that link to ARK II brought back some cheesy memories! I think I liked that when I was a kid (actually I liked everthing when I was a kid).

Anyone remember Quark? It was a short-lived comedy in the 70's starring Richard Benjamin as an intersteller garbage man. I remember he had two twin women with him (maybe the original double-mint twins?).
Reply #32 Top
My all time favorite cheesey TV sci-fi shows

Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
Time Tunnel
Invaders

My favorite all time sci-fi shows in order:

Babylon 5
Star Trek (the original, none of the spinoffs were worth the tape they were recorded on)
Outer Limits

Reply #33 Top
Star Cops
Blakes 7
Red Dwarf
Bab 5
V
Outer Limits
Twilight Zone
Even.... The Thunderbirds.
and the ORIGINAL Star Trek...[ALL of the rest were/are crap]...
Reply #34 Top
/me envisions Brad as "The comic bookstore guy" from The Simpsons...

I agree with what you're saying in many respects, but a generation of kids that will buy Pokemon and watch that incomprehensible cartoon will buy and watch anything.

Most of my star wars toys are long since dead, mostly by fire (I was a real pyro when I was a kid). I'm not sure what happened to the rest of them, I had the X-Wing, the Tie Fighter (with the wings that fell off when you pressed the button), Scout Walker and AT-AT which I know I didn't destroy (I generally just destroyed the figures). I bet they'd be worth a fair amount on ebay if I could find them, but they probably went to a charity shop years ago.

AJC
Reply #35 Top
Red Dwarf is brilliant material.

Now can someone please explain to me what's so good about 2001? I almost fell asleep watching it.
Reply #36 Top
Well, 2001's got chimps, and monoliths, and ummm...other stuff...uhh...nevermind...
Reply #37 Top
The Red Dwarf movie's currently in production, so that's something to look forward to.

Time Tunnel and Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea are being updated and remade into new shows. The Invaders almost went the same route, but only got as far as a pilot (with Quantum Leap's Scott Bakula in the lead).

Battlestar Galactica's also being made into a new show, but it shares almost nothing with the original show except for the name and overall universe.

The Twilight Zone's also coming back, with Forest Whittaker as the host. I'd imagine it'll be a bit like the updated Outer Limits.

I'm just full of useful info today...
Reply #38 Top
And the SciFi Channel is going to make a mini-series (4 hrs I think) of Roger Zelazny's Chronicles of Amber (part of the channel's quarterly mini-series events).
Reply #39 Top
Incredible how one post about Star Wars toys can evolve into such a museum of nostalgia in so little time.
Reply #40 Top
amber as a mini series?!!!! wow! now that's news. very cool.

also extremely excited to hear about the red dwarf movie

now if they'd only make movies of 'land of the lost' and blake's 7.

they've just started re-running the first season of farscape, and my wife and i are -really- getting into it.
Reply #41 Top
Mig...
'Farscape' was Henson's Muppets taking themselves seriously....give me Pigs In Space anytime...

What I'd like to see is a serious rendition of the Foundation 'Trilogy'... [teach them Star Wars kiddies a thing or two]...
Reply #42 Top
As Dennis Miller might say, "I don't want to get off on a rant here, but...."

The thing that bugs me most about current big movies such as Star Wars is the crass over-commercialization. The way they use movies to sell products for the Pepsi/Burger King/Doritos conglomerate when the movie doesn't have anything vaguely relevant to the products makes me want to tear my own eyeballs out and throw them at my tv. Am I the only person that finds this shameless irrelevant capitalization insulting?

AJC
Reply #43 Top
The motto of capitalisation is "as long as it sells there are no boundaries". Good taste has nothing to do with it.

Amber is very seventies. I wonder how the tv version will be.
Reply #44 Top
hmm, jafo.. no, i must say i really like farscape. also, being possesed of some formal film criticism training, i must say george lucas in general and the star wars saga specifically have quite a lot going on. of course, if it's just a matter of preference, that's completely understandable

marketing tie-ins are all aimed at kids. even when the movie isn't for kids only, and sometimes when it's not even appropriate for kids, if there is a chance kids will like it they'll do the merchandising.

for example.. although 'titanic' was a massive media extravaganza, pimped by the hollywood machine to the best of its ability, you didn't see 'titanic doritos.' and yes, i agree totally. seeing obi-wan's face on a bag of lays is quite disheartening, and i have to struggle to keep it from cheapening the whole experience.
Reply #45 Top
mig...
I just thank God that Lord of The Rings was made far away enough from the Hollywood 'machine' that there were no Hobbits running around wearing Nike runners, and the engraving on the ring was not the Coca Cola script...

And Farscape.....in Australia where it's made, we have a vermin/introduced species called a 'Cane Toad'....people are known to play 'Golf' with them...[waste of bullets to shoot them].....so when one of the Show's principal characters looks like an amateurish puppet of a cane toad.....
Reply #46 Top
hahaha.. i've seen cane toads on steve irwin's show.

actually, i'm sorry to say that here in the states the merchandising for lord of the rings was fairly merciless. they had light up plastic 'goblets' at burger king, as well as little toys of the characters. sam gamgee should feel insulted.. his toy's special 'action' was moving a pan around over a plastic fire.

i'll have to say though that the actual toys for lotr are pretty cool. my son just got some of them as part of the gifts for his first communion, and they are quite nicely done.
Reply #47 Top
mig, I think that AJ and Jafo are not refering to merchandising the movie in products, but the other way around: merchandising products IN the movie. Example: see the Apple logo on the main character's laptop (although the screen is most definately Windows, hahaha!), or the hero opens his fridge and you see in the foreground a six-pack of Coke cans, etc.
Reply #48 Top
Yes...paxx got it right....imagine the two giant stone statues in the river canyon [LOTR]...they might have been Ronald McDonald...
Reply #49 Top
ahhh... alles klar, herr komisar..

many apologies most gracious one..
Reply #50 Top
crae, i would recorment reading the book 2001. it is infinetly better than the film.

for one thing it actually makes sence