Anyone here in the Sign Industry?

Just wondering....
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What's the Sign Industry? People who design Stop signs?
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No, but I've made plenty of them for clients. The interesting thing I've noticed is most of the sign printers I've worked with (especially the vinyl guys) seem to prefer CorelDraw files. Signs is the only place I've encountered that.
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Ya, that's how I got introduced to it, It is because most of the vinyl cutters, routers, thermal printers, etc use software form Gerber or other PC based design programs, which is all PC based, Corel is suited well for this, because you cant really have overlapping shapes and the like in metal, vinyl, or neon, so Illustrator, were things tend to be done in masks, is very impractical.
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cool, I always wondered why... I'd usually create it in Corel and give them an autocad or a plotter file but I know the critical part was to make all the shapes complete. No groups or text just paths and every element had to be a single outline with any voids combined or they couldn't use it.
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That's way, a good designer can make any file work, but clean files make like alot simpler.
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OK so what's the Sign industry? seriously...
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I am mostly wodering about Sign designers, illuminated, noniluminated etc... There are alot of signs in the world, I find there is alot of talinted people out there in designing signs, and some crappy ones to, but the good ones don't seam to get much credit.
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Sign = those things you see hanging above bars, above shops, at streetcorners and what not. Like a billboard and neon things and such I figure.
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Just caught this.
Yeah, been in the sign business for about 10 years now.
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Oh, and Paxx -what's the sign industry?
Look around - you'll trip over it when you walk out your door.


See the gold leaf lettering on the bank window?
How about the graphics on the side of the tow truck that just drove by?
And that swinging sign over the "Curio Shop" door?
Or that big banner that they hung on the side of the school proclaiming themselves "Regional Champions!"?

That's us...

Some signs are good.
Some signs are great.
Some signs are annoying.
Some signs are butt ugly.

You know.
Kinda like skins...



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Ah, ok. Yeah, I guess you call these things signs too in English.
For some reason, the word "sign" brought up street signalisation panels in my mind.
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Of course they're signs!

No, I'm not involved in it. Why such a strange thread?? But I suppose there's more to a sign than he info it contains.
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it's a sign of the times....
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how come 'sign' is pronounced "sine" if 'signal' isn't pronounced "sinal"?
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"Signs, signs, everywhere is signs.."

"..Do this. Don't do that. Can't you read the signs?..."
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Elwin, What type of work do you do?
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Name it.
Everything from name badges to billboards.
Plastic and brass engraving, vinyl, sandblasting, traditional paint, hand lettering, goldleaf, and I'm a part-time pin-head.
Everything but RIPping (sign maker-skinner joke)


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Cool, I mostly just do design nowadays, what tools do you use, computer wise?
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Darn! I swear I posted an answer to your question from work yesterday, but its not here now...

Anyway, computer wise I use:

New Hermes Vanguard Engraver
(uses it's own proprietary software)

Mimaki 24 in. plotter with Flexisign Pro software for the vinyl and sandblasting mask

CorelDraw...
what else

Since I'm a one man operation, I do it all (with a few exceptions that I farm out to other folks in the area).
Keeps me from getting into a boring grind...


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I saw your response, then it was gone, wierd. Anyway It's nice to see some sign guys here. Good luck with you shop.
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I have an interesting sign story... it's about a very dear old friend of mine named Kim, an artist whose work is so stunningly beautiful, human and compassionate it can move people to tears. He is considered a national treasure in his home country, Korea, and has been exhibited in galleries and museums around the world. The first piece of his I saw in person was in a traveling exhibit at the Avery Brundage wing of the DeYoung museum in San Francisco. From across the hall it caught my eye and I stood in front it in awe for a long time before I realized it was by my friend.

Anyway, he got a commission to do some signs for the Coors beer company in Denver. Billboards that would go around the Southwest. I was stunned when I first heard this but then he told me what the project involved. The billboards would be original oil paintings created on-site. Kim would live on the billboard for as long as it took and had no restrictions as to what the painting was. I couldn't believe Kim was doing billboards, but he was very excited about the project. He intended to paint a testimony to the human condition, something that every passerby would be affected by. Something that would make people feel, in their hearts, that all men were worthy of their kindness and all people are united in their need for understanding and love. He was planning to spend at least a couple months at the site for each painting. Living in a small tent up on the billboard's platform somewhere on a lonely stretch of American highway.

To advertise Coors beer.

I never saw any of the signs but I thought someone should have made a documentary film about it. Kim came to visit us after the first one was done and he was preparing for the next one. He seemed changed in a way, like he had found an even deeper truth about humanity and was moved to obsession by it. He used homeless people as models, portraying in graphic detail the intellectual struggle of incongruities in the American dream. The similarity of a broken, hopeless life vs one with material wealth and how the personal cataclysm of loneliness made both their lives equally desperate for meaning.

I spent a fair amount of years in marketing and I never heard of a stranger or more brilliant way to advertise a product using a sign. I don't know if it was considered a successful campaign by Coors, or how the project turned out. I never saw Kim again, we moved, he moved, our phone numbers changed and sadly I lost touch with him. But I will never forget this man, or his incredible vision, or the hope I felt for humanity, knowing his overwhelming compassion was being presented to the world as an image on the highway. Something that would be a moment's impression as you fly down the road to a destination that might benefit from the thoughts the Coors beer sign placed in your subconscious mind. (and in your heart)