Atlantis - Found At Last

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - C. Sagan. I have no doubts there are hundreds, if not thousands of 'lost cities'. I wonder what it'll take to prove this one is Atlantis? Perhaps a sign,

The program will be on here tonight.  I will watch it to see just what they think thay may have found. 

Yup, they're going to produce a living descendant who'll verify that this pot and that are most definitely Atlantean.

I'd like to see that, but free-to-air here is a bit slack of late with regard to documentaries... reality crap seems to take precedence over everything lately. 

I worked out our prime time viewing on our 5 primary free-to-air channels one week: 12% news and current affairs; 17% drama/scripted shows; 19% DIY/gardening/home improvement shows; 52% reality shows.... meaning 71% of the time I refuse to watch TV, and I won't pay fpr Foxtel/pay TV because there's always a base package that you MUST take, and it's full of the same reality type crap I refuse to entartain on free-to-air.

Anyhow, I digress!  This Atlantis 'discovery' is very interesting regardless of the origin of this lost city... it is history being unearthed for the very first time, and that never ceases to amaze me.

Oh, and Doc, I'm surprised you didn't have donned in pirate garb and my tri-corn pirate hat in that Atlantis 'shop'

It all remains to be seen. Others thought tha they too found Atlantis only to have those hopes dashed whe it turned out not to be. Here's hoping they did. Good luck to them.

Better?

 

Yeah, just like when I thort I'd founded that thar Edward Teach's treasure on Tortuga... turned out ter be a box o' Johnny Depp's dirty washin' wot got left be'ind when 'e wur 'ere on set filmin' Pirates o' tha Caribbean.  Aaargghhh, an' wot an imposter that thar blaggard be.  Why 'e's not even a knot on a pirate's peg leg.

Aye me beauty, ye dun good wiv that thar update wot ye sended me... an' it be g'wen strait in tha fam'ly album.

Well, didn't learn much at all.  Just another theroy at this point.

Oh well, let's hope there's a bit more substance to it as they get deeper into the excavations.

I'm not holding my breath that it's Atlantis, but I'm sure interested to learn of the origins of this find,

Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe Atlantis has already been found and that the name comes from the King who ruled it. King Minos was his name and the name of the culture is Minoan. That name because the actual name is 'unknown'. They lived on the island of Santorini and had a colony on the island of Crete which was destroyed by a tsunami when Santorini's volcano erupted. Santorini was much larger than Krakatoa and that eruption was heard round the world.

Yup.... King Georgia.  

Doc ... do you remember the name of the separatists in Spain? Basq or something like that. Watch it turn out to be one of their ancient cities. Could be Moors too for that matter.

This is a thought that often crossed my mind during history lessons at school.... that Atlantis and the Minoans suddenly vanished around about the same time.  That's why I'm not holding my breath on this discovery in Spain being Atlantis... it is too far removed from where Atlantis/the Minoans likely were, who, according to prominent writers of the day, were much farther East in the Mediterranean.

The Basque were more French than Spanish in the day, and they were situated more in the Pyrenees situated in the North.  It is only more in recent times that Basque separatists have become active throughout Spain.  However, the Moors were quite prominent throughout Southern Europe and the ruins could well be of North African origin.

That's what I thought. Could also be Roman. They were pretty much everywhere in that part of the world. Could also be from the Indus or Isthmus civilization, don't know if I spelled that right. Gonna do a wiki and see what I find.

Then there was Alexander the Great, the Byzantine Empire, and later the Ottoman Empire.... and even the Ancient Greeks set up trade posts in many parts of the Mediterranean, so I'm not confident that this find is Atlantis, which I believe was the location of the Minoan culture anyway, and blown away by the eruption at Santorini.   I therefore believe Atlantis does not/did not exist, at least not for the purposes of this current search in Southern Spain.

For mine, what they refer to as Atlantis lies farther to the East and is likely to be the ruins of the Minoans.

 

Here's something else not mentioned very often. Plato described Atlantis as being west of the Pillars of Hercules, the Strait of Gibraltar. At that particular location in the Atlantic, on the sea floor, is a rise. A flat bottom, large in area, that may or may not represent a section of land long since submerged. I remember only one mention of it a long time ago, several years but nothing much since.

I think Plato, who was a teacher as well as a writer, used Atlantis as a teaching tool and that it was a fictitious place rather than somewhere which actually existed.  Plato spoke out against decadence and corruption, and he was possibly referring to the Minoan culture at the time because it was seen as opulently decadent by other Mediterranean cultures.  It is also possible that Plato placed his fictitious 'Atlantis' to the West of the Pillars of Hercules to discourage young Greek men seeking out the culture he despised so much. 

With Greek Mythology as it was in the day, the Pillars of Hercules represented significant dangers to travelers, what with various sea monsters and the like, so it makes sense that Plato would have located this decadent society beyond the danger as a deterrent to the curious and young men easily tempted.

Again, I'm no expert and this is just a theory based on various teachings, but it is a theory shared by some of my former teachers and others with historical interests.

Hmmm, so this means Atlantis has now been found in what now, 5 or 6 places in the world?  Even if it did exist at one time existed, it will never be "found" because no one has any way of proving it was Atlantis, and probably never will.  Nice dream though. 

Hey my friend just found the Lost Dutchman's gold mine in the Superstition Mountains outside of Phoenix AZ

That's pretty much sums it up, it will never be found because it never really existed, well not as the place named Atlantis.  No doubt there are lost cities and lost societies as a result of the Santorini eruption, but those, if ever found, would be much farther East than the current dig in Spain.

Yes, that's all it is/can ever be.  However, I would never discourage anyone wishing to follow that dream, because history we know little or nothing about can be unearthed and add to our knowledge of the human race.

 

That's nothing, I told a bloke they'd found Noah's Ark on Mt Wellington in Tasmania, and like a rabbit he hared off to take a look for himself.  Yeah well he joined the dig and unearthed a lifeboat that he said looked very much like it had animals in it at some stage, and he's convinced it's one from the Ark. 

Me, well I'm not so sure....  saw the photos and you can clearly see where the outboard motor goes.

There's a thought. Outboards that are lets see ... 4,000 years old.  Leaded or unleaded.

Oh, definitely unleaded... given it was powered by methane from camel dung.

Did you know ........ Art decorations on the walls unearthed on Crete depict women going topless as a matter of course. The scientists studying the dig say it was a demonstration of their fertility.

Dammit, all the best traditions died out early

 

Awwww, was it anywhere near the Mining Camp restaurant?  I spent a lot of time there in the 70's and never could find that mine, but the food was fantastic!

Did you look around back? Starkers might have hidden it in the outhouse.