Hyper Computer Trade Good

Does the hyper computer trade good increase focus-created research?  Or, does it increase only the research generated by research buildings?  (DA)

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Good question. Basically Hyper Computers or Nano Recorders or research resource mining are all the same since they're all just sources of global research bonus. I suspect that they probably do. I do know that your global sources of manufacturing bonus increase military production derived from research focus so getting your global research bonus on research derived from manufacturing focus would be analogous.

Less clear would be things that give a per planet research bonus like research coordinator and tech capital.

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Hi!

Does the hyper computer trade good increase focus-created research?
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In DA it does.

Less clear would be things that give a per planet research bonus like research coordinator and tech capital.
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In DA they don't. No research-boosting planetary structure does. At least they didn't when I've  been doing research 2 years ago. 

The reason is IMO the research can be greatly boosted by mining purple galactic resources. Adding the bonus from buildings would be an overkill. Mumblefratz, hasn't it be the very YOU, who reported having a planet with 20k research output. :erk:

BR,  Iztok

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Mumblefratz, hasn't it be the very YOU, who reported having a planet with 20k research output.
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With a single planet my best was 11K if I recall correctly. Actually I think it was Fuels Chief that hit the 20K mark and I think DethAdder hit something in between those two figures.

There's a post by DethAdder here somewhere about the topic and I think at that time my best was only 8K but as you say you're really dependent on the luck of how many research resources the galaxy has to mine.

However the point of the question is really about how bonuses of one type (i.e. research) affect production generated from focus created from the other type (i.e. military or social production). In my case I was particularly interested in the other way around, whether various production bonuses would affect production that was generated from research focus. In my case I did find out that for example power plants didn't affect production derived from research focus although global bonus from techs (a mere 30% total) and ability points (again 50% max if you're willing to spend the points on such a thing) and the only other thing I've found that increases research focus derived production is the Artifical Slave Center.

In my case there are no production type resources to mine for global production bonus that are comparable to research resouce mining however I suspect that econ SB's since they provide both an MP/SP bonus *and* a research bonus even although such bonus is limited to planets within the Starbase's AOI (area of influence). In the production case it's not real practical to have econ sb's all over the galaxy in order to incease production globally.

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Hi!

and the only other thing I've found that increases research focus derived production is the Artifical Slave Center.
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You sure about that? By the description of ASC I'd say it shouldn't, but strange are the ways of developers. ;-) If you're sure, I'd add that to the wiki. Oh BTW, what game version, where it works?

In the production case it's not real practical to have econ sb's all over the galaxy in order to incease production globally.
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In huge "abundant" games. In one of my "rare" games, where I've been "operating" with only 3 planets, econ SBs made significant difference. \o/

BR,  Iztok

 

 

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You sure about that? By the description of ASC I'd say it shouldn't, but strange are the ways of developers. If you're sure, I'd add that to the wiki. Oh BTW, what game version, where it works?
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This is DA v2.01 and the ASC definitely increases production derived from research focus. Perhaps it's due to the "hard coded" nature of the ASC bonus?

Also the ASC bonus doesn't appear in the abilities tab of your civ manager, plus if I recall correctly the ASC essentially increases "base production" and additional production bonuses actually multiply the ASC bonus as opposed to it just  being additive but you'd probably know more about that than I do.

When I get home I'll recheck just to make doubly sure as I have a save game from just before and just after build the ASC.

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I just checked and I was correct on both counts. In the following screenshots my spending sliders are set to 100% research. Here's a screenshot before building the ASC.

And here's the after.

Clearly the ASC increases production from research focus. Not only that but it's clearly increased that production by approximately 50% even though prior to building the ASC I had a global 80% military production bonus. So the ASC not only gave me 50% of whatever my base production was it also gave me 50% of my 80% bonus as well.

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Hi!

Many thanks, Mumble! Updating wiki...

BR,  Iztok