Just wondering but

the wing bug is fixed in the UberFix mod. You might also want to consider blood soaked wand.

You should have pent in almost any build, and as far as oak as a "healer," I think the closest thing is playing him as an assassin with 1-2 point(s) in divine justice and maxed out surge of faith. Shield is the only thing that makes him seem like a paladin in the general sense. He's kind of cool imo with his paladin/necromancer mix (sort of like Arthas only more extreme and badass looking)

I was thinking something like

divine justice 3 - points

shield - max

surge of faith- max (I'm not sure if the buff is only for minions or also affect minions creeps and allied DG)

Last stand - max

Soul power 1

Purity

Rally

The whole necromancer/paladin thing is the reason why he was my second favorite, but they really screwed up what could have been a beautifully honorably evil combo if you ask me.

Only games I really use Uber fix in is pacovs games. I also thought about blood soked wand, but I'm not sure.

Box wrote up one quite some time ago.  Give it a shot.  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/360215

No Shield III == not very "supporty" :-/ You don't have to get it early but get it eventually. Plus it makes BSW uninterruptable.

DJ is awesome against minions, esp with Nature's Reckoning which actually works in conjunction with DJ.

Basically, my Anti-Minion Oak build roughly corresponds to this build except it gets Blood and not BSW. You could probably go BSW, I've never tried it. Irek likes it though and it works decently, so you could talk to him about it.

1. Pent I /Shield I (not going to start a holy war here. I prefer Pent over Shield level 1 unless I'm laned with or against a Rook or if there is a Reg on the enemy team then get Shield. If you get BSW you will probably need Shield for sure).

2. Divine Justice I

3. Pent I / Shield I (get the other one)

4. Shield II

5. Surge I

6. DJ II

7. Shield III

8. Pent II

9. Pent III

10. Surge II

11. DJ III

12. Pent IV

13. Shield IV

14. SAVE

15. Surge III + Shield V (note that if you use Shield V on an ally you can BOTH be immune to interrupts and stuns)

16. Last Stand I (Suiciding on Citadel/Portal clusterfucks)

17. Last Stand II

18. Rally

19-20. Soul Power I + II (+40 Weapon Damage for 2 points. Pretty Meh but what else can you get?)

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Typically if I have an Oak on my team I try to let him get the kill because of DJ. If an Oak doesn't have DJ and I let him get the kill, I swear violently at him. You have a weak Pent early game so you probably won't be getting last-blow so don't trip about it too much. Unless a more Pent-focused Assassin build you don't have nearly the same mana costs and can last up 'til level 12 with just NR + Unbreakables + Scaled Helm (instead of a typical BotF Assassin that basically needs Plenor + Vlemish to do anything at all, CoN builds typically don't have quite as bad of an issue but it's still rough). You also don't have to Surge creeps like a typical Assassin because NR typically does the job for you. Save your surges for killing minion swarms.

Unless they are a FULL morale+Ring of Divine Might build you'll heal roughly the same amount they damage you. Even full morale's have the "drawback" that by having more HP they are healing you more. Typically it works against your favor however.

Know that anti-minion isn't exactly what you were looking for but subsitute BSW for BotF and you're going to be pretty close to it.

BSW needs a cooldown reduction. It's not worth it atm.

Celerity flag. Mag Presense late-game if you have a Sedna on your team (not that 1000 hp is much late game).

Er, sorry, I meant cast time reduction. Cooldown reduction, too.

This sort of Oak build is crap. (Sorry, someone had to say it.) Oak is a tank that doesn't need cheap gimmicks like this.

Minion oak.

Mkay, I have a replay of a 62 minute game of me trying BSW. All level 20 etc etc. I fed early game really bad because I was used to BotF and then died a few times because people said they were porting and ended up not :sigh:

Anyway, here it is:

http://www.box.net/shared/o8utnyrji3

Wrong replay. Fix'd

I agree, I would only do this against Minions, it is very specialized (minions can't interrupt it ). It does help (minorly) with tower pushing and end-game giant pushing.

The only reason I did it in the listed game above (with no minions) was because I really didn't want to play Oak that game and the enemy team only had one interrupt but I had to play a general so I figured I would try something new. I did an Assassin build, however.

synn,

If you would like a Demigod that has flexibility, try Rook. At least five different favor items are viable on him, each with different playing styles. (SoR, BotF, AoT, DCV, and even EoM if you want a little challenge). EoM Rook is unorthodox. It's not the best favor item, but it's different and usuable. I would say WotS would work better on Rook than on Oak.

I'm so vehement about this because many Oaks frequently deviate from the best-ish type build. If I have an Oak on my team, he needs to have a strong hybrid build of some sort (or perhaps a good minion build. I've never tried that, though.)

Having said that, Eskendale used to play a pretty mean WotS Oak. http://forums.demigodthegame.com/357493 That is what I would recommend if you really want to try this strategy. Actually, now that I think about it, if WotS gets fixed, that's 1400 healing with shield 3. That is actually pretty decent.

(I must confess that I have been playing DG again over the snow break. School has been cancelled. w00t!)

I am interested in a minion Oak build. I've played nothing but hybrid and have won about 80% of my games with it. What does a minion build look like?

EDIT: Damn, Eskendale mentions shielding then using Wand of Speed. That's about as good as a shield tele in most situations, I would imagine.

@Specter: Minion Oak counts as a tank in my book.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=popular&show=details&id=109849

Thats the only link I can give off the top of my head, Omicron wanted to 1v1 me with minions. I went Pendant, although I would NEVER GO PENDANT in a normal game. Horn is the best, although Ring can suffice as well.

Minion oak as a tank? o.0 The point of minion oak is to never engage the enemy unless its a gauranteed kill with near zero threat to your life. Your job is to run around, cap and lock flags, and take down all their towers ASAP. If you're tanking, getting HP items, etc, you're playing minion oak incorrectly.

That's pretty much my build, I accidentally got surge. I forget why. I think it was a misclick on my part. Should've gone to morale.

If I get a good game going today I'll show you how I play minion oak 3v3 on Cataract.

Edit: Here's a 2v2 of myself and mandatory. I made a few mistakes, and cloud fed a bit, but we won pretty hard regardless. It also shows you the playstyle and order of towers that I typically go for.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=109935

The problem, as I see it, is it is impossible to get team mates not to kill creeps so you can recharge them with DJ. Maybe if you practiced ahead of time this could be great... I mean really, the mana recharge of DJ is potential greatness for focus fire skills.

Also, SoF + DJ is great against minion builds, as the SoF dammages enemy minions just enough so you can whack them and get the DJ recharge inbetween, and then SoF again to finishe the rest off.

This also means that spirits and soul pow`er is a good idea, so you can ensure you get the AA kill to trigger DJ easier.

I made a build along time ago when I was young and naive at DG... the basic idea was to keep myself and allies in play.

It is a bad build in retrospect, but the concept might be valid if you have good team mates, Take the soul power II and III and put them in Pent for the interrupt, and maybe rearrange a couple of skill points.

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/352768

I can make  Box's BSO work... Is it good enough for high level play?  no.  Can I beat most players with it... oh yes.  It has its merits, but you MUST adapt to its strengths. 

Hybrid Oak > All. I've never lost in a balanced match with this build against any other oak build.

How hybrid? There are certainly degrees to how much hybridness there is in a build. Do you get spirits before level 10?

Epip,

I could careless about rook because I don't play as, or want to play rook. If you are fine with a set in stone build for oak then fine, but I am not you just because it is fun for you doesn't mean it will be fun for me. I choose to deviate from what everyone else is doing because it is fun; which is what games bring to me fun and enjoyment. If you don't like when people do this then we best not play wth one another.

delete damn forum go boom....

delete damn forum go boom

Next game with TB, I'm going Auras and stats!

That was kind of harsh synn, he was just suggesting that rook would be a fun character for you to play if you don't like demigods that have only 1 or 2 playstyle's (like oak). He's not demanding that you do it, he's just trying to be helpful.

If it was harsh then I'll apologized because it wasn't meant to be. I was simply stating I don't play rook;or any other melee demi's outside of da and Oak for that matter. I dont follow the whole ability set in stone bull; even if one is better then the other doesn't mean that it will be more fun to play.

@Pacov; I actually used the bsw biuild in game and it worked pretty nicely; I died only once but there was also a hp stacking tb playing so ya.