ATI new graphic board = Slow object dock?

why?

System info:
Core duo 2.13
2Gb Ram
Windows xp sp3

Now as for the graphic boards, i use to had an ati x1600 with 256 ram, object dock runs perfectly on it, no slowdows, i had the options with zoom on extra gradual, it was great.
Now with christmas, i got a ati hd 4670 with 512 ram, games run smoother it's true, but object dock doesn't run smooth at all, i even tried with zoom on very fast and it's still a tiny bit laggy, so the extra gradual looks plain laggy up to the point it isn't fun to look at it.

Why does this happens?
No, i won't change OS because it worked fine before
Yes i have the RAM option enabled.
Yes i updated the drivers on my graphic board (even on my old one they were updated)
No i don't have a web related shortcut like the weather
No i won't lower the resolution because it worked fine before.
No i haven't installed anything to decrease the performance of object dock

I have ATI tray tools, so if you guys have an idea of what can i try to fix this i would apreciate, give ideas.

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Reply #1 Top

What resolution are you using and what resolution were you using before?

Reply #2 Top

Before: 1680x1050
Now: 1680x1050

"No i won't lower the resolution because it worked fine before"

Reply #4 Top

Not by any means an expert, one of them will reply here soon, but make sure the drivers are the correct or most current ones and try and check to see if your new card is compatible with the rest of your hardward.  Is the power supply in the computer sufficent or big enough?

Open Object Dock configuration and under General click Performance Options and click Optimize for Permaance and see if that makes a difference.

 

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"Yes i updated the drivers on my graphic board (even on my old one they were updated)"
Yes, they are compatible

The power supply is sufficient, the only thing not working properly is object dock

"Yes i have the RAM option enabled"
So basicly i have the performance option enabled like i always did.

Maybe i need to be clearer, the only thing that changed was the graphic board, the options, the resolution, the options remain the same (exept for the extra gradual zoom effect since it lags alot)

Reply #6 Top

When ever something changes in performance on the computer there are always things that you check, so that's when I made the suggestion I did.

When you chaged the card did you make any other changes or have updates to any software?  Since performance seem to be better when playing games, when not playing games is there some prograam running in the background that could be using resources?

Reply #7 Top

No changes were made, when i used the new ati board i noticed instantly the laggy zoom effect, after that i updated the drivers, installed the software of the graphic board,.....

With or without updates the problem remains and i can't find the solution for it.
All programs that existed before exist now on the new ati board.

I have installed (and no it isn't the problem) ATI tray tools, wich is like an improved cataclist control center, it has lot's and lot's of options regarding the graphics, so maybe the solution relies there, but where i have no idea.

I just remind you that as soon i turned the computer on with the new board, the dock lagged instantly, updating drivers and the general software of the board did nothing.
Keep giving ideas, i don't mind as i want this fixed

Reply #8 Top

Newer is not always better.......the X1600 was a pretty decent mid-range card (256mb model the higher end) compared to what you're replacing it with.....the bargain shopper 4670 ($200-250 vs. $65)

Question...is it PCIE or AGP?

 

Reply #9 Top

"Yes i updated the drivers on my graphic board (even on my old one they were updated)"
End of quote

Did you uninstall the drivers for the old card before installing the new one?

If not I suggest uninstalling all of the ATI video card drivers, use a driver cleaner and reinstall the drivers for the new card.

Reply #10 Top

It was indeed a good board and at the time it was even better, but some games didn't run smooth enough for my taste and with a stalled fan then i had to find a replacement fast otherwise i would be facing the risk of overheating constantly.

This graphic board seemed powerfull enough for what i wanted as i don't want to spend lot's of money on a graphic board that i will not ever use it to the max, wasting 60€ was enough and at the time my only complain is the dock, because it seems that it's the only thing to lag.

Both boards are PCIE

EDIT: drivers were unistalled completely, i installed the full software that i downloaded from the ATI website, the net framework, the cataclist control center, the drivers, everything.
Problem existed before and still remains

Reply #11 Top

A few other things to check maybe, seem like things that one graphics card might deal with better than another:

If you're apply transparency to the docks within ObjectDock, set the slider all the way over to "Opaque" and see if that helps.

If you're running any monitor management software that controls window placement try running without it.

If you're running any dreams with OD try it without them.  (My old box just can't really deal with both at once, maybe a newer box would kind of trudge through it?)

Reply #12 Top

Tried that 1st tip because i saw it also on another topic, didn't work
I don't think i have a monitor management software, but to be sure, what those do?

dreams with OD? that i don't know what it is (i suspect it's a animated background)

Reply #13 Top

Monitor management software - Ati's used to be called HydraVision, don't know if they're still including that or something similar.  Not talking about Catalyst Control Center here, not sure what all ATI tray tools might contain (but it sounds like you didn't have that loaded at first).  Other examples are UltraMon and NVidia's NView (which shouldn't apply here).  They're applications which can apply transparency to windows, control where windows pop up regardless ef where they were closed from, other visual-type things which escape me right now.

Dreams - ya animated wallpaper - Stardock's DeskScapes.  Doesn't sound like you're trying to run them both.

Only other thing I can think of off the top of my head is to double check your CMOS/BIOS setting for the Video Shadow RAM / RAM cache to be sure it's appropriate for the new card if you know how to do that.  Having it set too high can actually slow the graphics down and you've got an extra 256 of Video RAM out there now.  Seems like that would be a bit of a longshot though and I'd think you be seeing it elsewhere as well.

I was hoping the transparency setting would get it, that's the one that made me crazy trying to figure it out.  Sorry.

Reply #14 Top

No i don't use neither dreams or a monitor managment.

"Only other thing I can think of off the top of my head is to double check your CMOS/BIOS setting for the Video Shadow RAM / RAM cache to be sure it's appropriate for the new card if you know how to do that."
Can you explain this, are you saying i should use the other RAM option, the one that makes me use only 256 Mb?

Reply #15 Top

Can you explain this, are you saying i should use the other RAM option, the one that makes me use only 256 Mb?
End of quote

Not quite sure what you're talking about here, but I'm guessing that's not what I'm talking about.  Sounds like an option somewhere to only use 256 of the card's 512 and no I wouldn't do that.

The setting I'm talking about is in your motherboard's BIOS settings, aka the motherboard's "Setup Screen".  If you have the manual for either your motherboard or the computer system (if it was a package deal) it should tell you how to get into those settings at boot and go into some detail on the settings.

I don't want to go into detail on this.  Like I said, it's a longshot, and if it were causing any real problem you'd likely be seeing it elsewhere, especially in games.  I mentioned it in case it was something you could easily check and hadn't thought of it. If you think your machine is running bad now, just wait until you screw up the BIOS settings.;)

Reply #16 Top

i had this same problem with my old ATi 9600 pro graphics card. the solution i found was the revert to the last set of graphics drivers that worked. this may not be an option for you. everything after catalyst 8.12 caused object dock to perform sluggishly on my PC so i just stuck with that. I think they were the august 2008 ones. With my new card which is an ATi HD 3650 512Mb i have come acrosse no problems with the latest drivers. Maybe the ones you are using are corrupt somehow?. Have you tried uninstalling them completely and then reinstalling the latest drivers fresh?. it might be worth a try. good luck :)

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See what happens if you dump the ATItraytool....unless you've got your card OC'ed it's not that useful

Reply #18 Top

ATI tray tools didn't existed when the problem apeared, if it had no effect before, it doesn't have now.

But if a suggestion involves messing with any graphic options like refresh rate or antialsising then i can using ATI tray tools for that effect and see if it changes anything.

At 1st i really tought it was the drivers, that's why i removed everything and went to ati website to download the latest ones, i installed it but the object dock problems still remain.
yes i already reinstalled everything.

Now you can see why i made the question here, i had no idea on what could affect it.

Reply #19 Top

My first suggestion would've been to start removing docklets one at a time to see if that's the problem.....it usually is...but you said you didn't change the setup and if the docklets were working before they should be working now.

Another shortcut I've found to cause slowdown issues in the past are folders with a large amount of files in them and network folders.....it's like OD scans the folder each time it's activated.

Reply #20 Top

hmm, the amount of shortcuts does seem to affect the speed, i have 20 shortcuts, no specific shortcut influences the speed but when i reduce the number to 10 i can see some improvements in the speed.

But the amount was never an issue on the old card, why here presents as a problem?