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Isn't Erebus too Overpowered?? He never dies!(Replay)

Isn't Erebus too Overpowered?? He never dies!(Replay)

This is not any sort of telling me that i am good player. This was mid-pro game and after he got all health items... he never dies even in 2v1!

He can run away from anything and and he can stay the longest. Which means he can level up the fastest. He can bite to run away. He can swarm to run away. He can mist to protect him from anything.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=102510 

Here is the replay

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Reply #26 Top

sorry sedna will lose.
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Your Sedna is doing it wrong then. In fact, I see very few Sedna's that do it right. There is one correct way to play Sedna, and I rarely see it used. Sedna can 1v1 anything without minions. (I consider towers to be "minions.") Imo, she's the strongest 1v1 Demigod. (Haven't tried her against non-tower Rook, though.)

Reply #27 Top

3 non health stacked noobs can be beaten by 1 normal-skilled health stacked erebus

WHO SAID HE HAS LOW HEALTH??????

HE IS THE 2ND MOST HEALTHED CHARACTER IN THE BEGINNING(1650)

AND YOU KNOW GOOD EREBUS PLAYER HAS 7000HEALTH AT LEVEL 10

Reply #28 Top

3 non health stacked noobs can be beaten by 1 normal-skilled health stacked erebus

WHO SAID HE HAS LOW HEALTH??????

HE IS THE 2ND MOST HEALTHED CHARACTER IN THE BEGINNING(1650)

AND YOU KNOW GOOD EREBUS PLAYER HAS 7000HEALTH AT LEVEL 10
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You keep saying that erebus has all of these OP skills and then mention that he can health stack well um NO he can have health stack OR skills and if you get all of the OP skills stun, bite, invincible you cant get minions and you have to buy more helms than hp. yes he may be a little OP but a BOTS ub will destroy him lvl 5 + if b/c the erebus needs mana items to stay and lvl in a lane and hp items to counter the spit ooze grasp combo. Late game giants make nightcrawlers almost worthless unless you have a full morale + HoB in which case i cannot have bite,mist,stun more than lvl 1 or 2 making him not OP.

 

Basically He's OP but not that OP you just have to pick the right counter

Reply #29 Top

Quoting Epiphenomenon, reply 26
Your Sedna is doing it wrong then. In fact, I see very few Sedna's that do it right. There is one correct way to play Sedna, and I rarely see it used. Sedna can 1v1 anything without minions. (I consider towers to be "minions.") Imo, she's the strongest 1v1 Demigod. (Haven't tried her against non-tower Rook, though.)
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I still don't think she can take a hybrid UB or a tower rook. I haven't found a single Sedna yet that can push either out of a lane consistently.

 

Reply #30 Top

Like I said, I consider towers as "minions," so she certainly couldn't take on a tower Rook.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting Epiphenomenon, reply 26

sorry sedna will lose.
Your Sedna is doing it wrong then. In fact, I see very few Sedna's that do it right. There is one correct way to play Sedna, and I rarely see it used. Sedna can 1v1 anything without minions. (I consider towers to be "minions.") Imo, she's the strongest 1v1 Demigod. (Haven't tried her against non-tower Rook, though.)
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That is the key word in that phrase. Even a none minion erebus is rarelly without minions.

Reply #32 Top

TB_Master didn't list minions as a reason Erebus was OP. His problem with EB was that Erebus is impossible to kill. The only thing I would consider OP about him is that it is possible to permamist on Leviathan using low-cost mana items. It allows him to camp reinforcement spawns and throw waves of minions at at the citadel. I haven't seen anyone use this in a long time, though.

Reply #33 Top

Quoting Epiphenomenon, reply 32
TB_Master didn't list minions as a reason Erebus was OP. His problem with EB was that Erebus is impossible to kill. The only thing I would consider OP about him is that it is possible to permamist on Leviathan using low-cost mana items. It allows him to camp reinforcement spawns and throw waves of minions at at the citadel. I haven't seen anyone use this in a long time, though.
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Hey your the one who brought minions into it, but I really can't say he's over powered but exetremely annoying is a definite yes.

Reply #34 Top

Yeah, well, tower rook can be extremely annoying too. :P

 

He is incredibly easy to play, though. I tried him for the first time the other day, and I didn't die once against decent opponents. I sort of think a mist + minion build is a decent strategy.

Reply #35 Top

Rook tower spasim very annoying.

Reply #36 Top

I've found the best way to play sedna=D, and yes you can practically beat everyone with it including minion builds.

Reply #37 Top

Quoting lifekatana, reply 36
I've found the best way to play sedna=D, and yes you can practically beat everyone with it including minion builds.
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I found youto be fullof yourself and need to get over yourself.

Reply #38 Top

You're irony sense is malfunctioning it seems. Was you not the silly girl that claimed to be competetive with queen?

 

 

Anyway Erebus is OP as hell. I don't even understand what people think is remotely balanced about him.

Reply #39 Top

Quoting lifekatana, reply 36
I've found the best way to play sedna=D, and yes you can practically beat everyone with it including minion builds.
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Watch out, people might steal replays of you if you talk about it too much :D

Reply #40 Top

Stay away from my replays! STAY AWAY! :D  

Reply #41 Top

Erebus can be strong, but I haven't seen him be much stronger than any other DG. I do not find that he is more likely to win a given fight, he's just more likely to survive a fight he'd otherwise lose. He has a teleport retreat option (as do all generals if they use the favor item).

I've used some pretty squishy, high DPS builds vs erebus, and they push him back as easily as any other DG. I find his DPS, at least as an assassin, very weak in the late-game. Assassin erebus seems to make better late-game support, since late game TBs and DAs are running around nuking everyone...

Reply #42 Top

Quoting lifekatana, reply 38
You're irony sense is malfunctioning it seems. Was you not the silly girl that claimed to be competetive with queen?

 

 

Anyway Erebus is OP as hell. I don't even understand what people think is remotely balanced about him.
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I never claimed to be competitive; I claimed I have a higher chance of survival. Im not even an aggresive or competitive player.

Reply #43 Top

grimunk: Tb nuking everyone? Assasin erebus sis a support character? Do you play online?

Reply #44 Top

1. duh I play online

2. I dont play erebus and I never called him a support

3. I rarely play tb and back up damage is still support thank you.

Reply #45 Top

Look up young man.

Reply #46 Top

lifekatana, you need to read my post again. I mentioned that Erebus is not as strong in the late-game, but that was no my point.

Erebus isn't overpowered in terms of health regen, damage, or anything. He just has the ability to leave the battlefield quickly if he has to. In almost every game I've played, he's never been particularly strong, but has done a good job when coupled with teammates (as all DGs do). He will get more kills than times he will die because he has an easier retreat mechanic.

Reply #47 Top

Quoting lifekatana, reply 45
Look up young man.
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I hate you more than final fantasy 8

Reply #48 Top

The problem as I see it with Erebus is that it takes all of three skill points invested (2 bat swarm, one mist) to make him the most mobile demigod on the field, to the point of near-invulnerability.  Similar mobility skills do not see anywhere near that level of return per point spent.  Diseased claws?  Permafrost?  Fire aura?  Inner grace?

 

Warp strike I think comes closest, but it's a one-way port, requires a target, and can't typically be used as an effective instant retreat in most situations.  Bite may be some horribly imbalanced bullshit as well, but we'll never know, because batswarm and one point in mist are so stupidly effective, they overshadow anything else.

Reply #49 Top

He certainly gets good mobility for the points, but being unkillable because you can retreat doesn't make you formidable, it just makes you a pest. Erebus seems to be middle of the road in terms of strength 1v1. I've taken him out with a mine-happy regulus, I've pushed him back 1v1 using a squishy TB. He just doesn't dole out the damage fast enough to be a big problem. He does have good-to-great synergy with all demis, though - perhaps that in itself is an issue...

Reply #50 Top

Warp strike I think comes closest, but it's a one-way port, requires a target, and can't typically be used as an effective instant retreat in most situations. Bite may be some horribly imbalanced bullshit as well, but we'll never know, because batswarm and one point in mist are so stupidly effective, they overshadow anything else.
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Yep its true killing dgs is the 'ONLY' way to win

has anyone tried giants against an ereb he sucks cause mist != enough damage and minions well giants vs minions...

You may not be able to kill eb, but that doesn't mean you can't beat him