Pure minion Oak

1. At level 1 I always get ward
2. then at 2 I grab morale
3. I save the third point
4. 4 is Ward and Morale
5. 5 is either shield or soul power depending on how the games going.
6. 6 morale
7. 7 ward
8. 8 morale
9. 9 save or if your up to their citadel already grab last stand and have at it.
10. 10 is morale and ward if its a slow game
11. 11 now last stand if you didn't take it
12. 12 Its usually over bye now but his aoe attack is a good choice to buff minion attack speed.

Just FYI, if you make a list of items in this forum, highlight them and click the 123 button, and it turns it into a nice itemized list, like above.  I just copied and pasted your build, and did this.  It is much more readable than what you have.

as i am a total oak noob i wonder how is the difference to a minion erebus? obviously you need only two skill rows to improve to pump up your minions where erebus needs more or less 3. so if you would compair them, what's your opinion?

"Shiro_Sol" with a name like that you can only be a noob with something like 0 % win. I don't know why anyone should take your advices.

what ever the name means it does not justify your impertinent post. hiding behind new acount or are you a noob yourself?

Stfu

 Good start but you are missing some key one point skills

A single point in soul power provides a incredible damage increase as the damage is based on the number of spirits. With a single point this can be over 80 damage points per attack.

A single point in penitence prevents people simply using teleport scroll to disappear away from you. Even if your not using it as a damage dealer it's a perfect counter for Hammer Rook, Circle of Fire and most of the other AOE skills that will destroy your minions.  But penitence is also important cause it increase the damage of your minions. Putting a single point in it can give your minions a 7% increase in damage when they need it.

But the biggest mistake in not taking surge of faith. Surge of faith increase your minions attack speed by 10% for a single point which is basically a 10% increase in damage for all your minions.

All of these skill with a single point provide a increase in damage more then a point in morale will.

Well, if my posting ability wasn't disabled everytime I register I wouldn't have to "hide" behind a new account. And basicly I was just mocking his poor flaming toward myself (and I'm not even mentionning his ignorance).

Don't laugh too quickly about Belier and Apika.  Had those 2 or a duo using their names try to join a game of mine last weekend.

I can't imagine damage boost/attack speed from morale outweigh damage boost/attack speed bonuses from pen or surge.

At level 10, you have +4 damage and +2% attack speed for minions.

Level 10 pen increases damage taken by 16%. I think base minion damage is ~20, but with your favor item it's ~30. That means we are adding about +4. So damage boost for minions is about the same. That aside the tradeoffs are:

+pen can't be used on buildings, morale boost hurts buildings more
+morale boost is always active
-Pen slows 16%
-Pen interrupts
-Pen does 800 damage

Similarly for surge, only level 10 surge gives +15% attack and move speed.

Level 10 surge and level 10 pen will cost you 6 skill points as opposed to the 5 for morale. I'd say hold off on level 10 surge until you hit level 11, then you can keep your shield/frenzy.

Of course the other issue I have neglected is mana use. Your build is nice in that it is essentially mana free. That leaves you free to upgrade your idols as quickly as you do, because you don't have to buy many mana items.

Bottom line is that I have never tried a build like yours for the above reasons. I might have a go at it and see if there is something I am missing

this build is so bad.

moral instead of soulpower? wtf?

no shield until lvl 5? or not even get shield ? ITS A TEAM GAME.

no pentinence for interrupting? WTF?

I have never seen a Minion Oak Outperform an Assasin Oak

You can do this build, if you flip it around entirely.

Get your pen / shield stats first. Then do whatever it is that you just said. There's no such thing as a pure minion oak. I mean, you can theoretically make one as you have, but you can't do anything outside of..... making more minions. you can't interrupt, cant save yourself or an ally, low health just to name a few.

If you like minions that much, play erebus. His minions aren't bugged. Oak's are. It's a flaw in the game (nawwwww really a flaw?) your minions wont be as strong as they should be unless you spawn them at the crystal.

Also an ooze beast will make short work of your minions, as will another oak with surge, or a TB with blizzard. AOE owns you hard, as does direct damage instant cast spells.

I'd suggest not playing this build at all. Ever. For any reason.

Outside of extra DPS, what are you really achieving with this? I can buy a tp scroll and completely negate your strategy as you have no penitence to stop my escape. I can buy a health pot and sit there for 10 seconds while it casts and then have full HP because you can't interrupt me.

The worst demigods in the game are the worst because they have no interrupts, interrupts are everything, especially an interrupt that increases all forms of dmg to your opponent and hits for HEAVY dps.

But like I said I made and played this build a LOOONG time ago it might not work so well now but heres a screenshot of back then, sry no replays out then lol.

Edit: two of my favorite things about this build is that it hardly took any mana and that you don't need much cash at all to finish it.

Edit2: I'll play a game with it later and record it to show how it works etc...and to see if it still does.

useless.

I think if you gave this guy the time of day instead of acting like snotty kids that theink they are "uber" or some such you'd appreciate he has some good points. I used a variation of this vs UB and it was effective though still tough as Oak vs UB  1 on 1 always is, for me anyway. So thanks for your advice OP it's helped me counter DG (and builds) I previously found very difficult using my usual build

This build is powerful if you use it correctly (Especially 1on1). No one can stop Spirits destroying towers and citadel.

There was a good pure Minion Oak replay in Replayers.org by Dark_Satana. But it's gone now because game was updated.

Thanks you 2 I'll see about updating it when I start back playing.

Omicron

only because most Assassin Oaks stick to the cookie cutter build and don't sacrifice pentitence for more points in Divine Justice and get Nature's Reckoning

his stats must be bugged, im pretty sure shiro is an old school pro. 

or it was a guy with shiro in his name