Jewish State? Islamic State? The US - the Christian State?
Toying With Theocracies
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JEWISH STATE ? ISLAMIC STATE ? NOW THE US – THE
CHRISTIAN STATE ?
( TOYING WITH THEOCRACIES )
Touchy topic this.. We usually thought of beliefs as something personal, in fact we kept this topic out of polite conversation and in some ways I’m glad there’s this blogsite thought-police notation below reminding us that “discussions aren’t allowed “ most likely for this and other blogs dealing with “sensitive” topics, otherwise some sites would be flooded with more comments than could be handled.
But, com’on, isn’t this the logical conclusion, if one really is sincere with one’s belief – that of dedicating your country to your God ? Okay, don’t answer that..yet. Quiet. Quiet please.
Surfing around, and searching on theocracies, we found a guy named Flavius who coined the word in the 1st Century. Actually, he went a step further, saying a Theocracy would be the ideal government for Jews, long before a Jewish state came into being. Just so, we don’t get confused with what we’re talking about here, a Theocracy is “a form of government in which the governmental rulers are identical with the leaders of the dominant religion.” Sounds familiar ? Don’t we have this already in place in our (hmmrph.) democracy ? (hrmmph..excuse this bit of sore throat). Two big examples of theocracies are given, though – the Papal State of Vatican and of, course, Iran. I thought it funny at first that Israel wasn’t given as an example but looking at their leaders, Ariel Sharon isn’t exactly the Head Rabbi. So, I guess the Jewish state is more of a theocracy from a historical standpoint rather an actual functioning Theocracy. The British Monarchy, whose Title , stemming from Henry VIII’s libido, as Head of the Church of England, although seemingly a Theocracy, is actually not one since the monarch’s role is merely ceremonial and separate from Tony Blair’s .
But going back to this land ( yes, from California to the New York Island), isn’t a -Theocracy for us a neat attractive idea ? You know, with religion around – enforced – the kids will be more disciplined, less divorces, less broken families and consequently less crimes, more peace, more productivity – a rising economy and presto! – a better standard of living. We’ll have less discussions and confusions on abortions, stem cell research and even evolution and have more time for our Maker.
A Baptist Press reports on the views of Alan Keyes, a one-time Reagan Administration official and former presidential candidate:
“Americans should demand that they be granted what the tyranny of the courts has sought to wrest from us -- the freedom to live in communities that are governed by laws that reflect our beliefs”
“ Keyes wants an America where Christian churches dominate politics on all by the federal level - all laws and all social norms will be determined by whatever religious persuasion is in the majority. If you don't like it, you can move. If you can't find an American community that isn't dominated by religion, I guess you can just leave the country.”
This is very déjà vu, having heard this threat from different blogs around JU. Keyes has even a geographical concept of how Theocracy is to unfold in the US:
“Keyes acknowledged, Catholicism likely would dominate in the Northeast and Protestantism down South. With a growing Muslim population, a state could even have state-sanctioned Islamic symbols and schools. "I don't think it would be likely, but it would be possible," Keyes told Baptist Press. "It was intended that folks who were of a similar persuasion in terms of religion would be able to establish communities. That's what the first colonialists to America did."
Yeah, right. This goes right along the War Against Terror. Islamic State Vs. Christian State. Yay!
Just One Thing.
How did the Founding Fathers who drafted the US Constitution, as witnesses to these religion-based communities of the “first colonialists” find the collective wisdom to insert the phrase separating the Church from State then ? (Hhmmm).
Regardless of how the Religious Right (Evangelicals) and the rightist politicians interpret the outcome of the last elections (confusion on who used who ), a politicized Religion and/or religious politics has come to fore in the national consciousness. For better or worse, the undying Truth cannot be denied – Theocracy is not Democracy. Period.
JEWISH STATE ? ISLAMIC STATE ? NOW THE US – THE
CHRISTIAN STATE ?
( TOYING WITH THEOCRACIES )
Touchy topic this.. We usually thought of beliefs as something personal, in fact we kept this topic out of polite conversation and in some ways I’m glad there’s this blogsite thought-police notation below reminding us that “discussions aren’t allowed “ most likely for this and other blogs dealing with “sensitive” topics, otherwise some sites would be flooded with more comments than could be handled.
But, com’on, isn’t this the logical conclusion, if one really is sincere with one’s belief – that of dedicating your country to your God ? Okay, don’t answer that..yet. Quiet. Quiet please.
Surfing around, and searching on theocracies, we found a guy named Flavius who coined the word in the 1st Century. Actually, he went a step further, saying a Theocracy would be the ideal government for Jews, long before a Jewish state came into being. Just so, we don’t get confused with what we’re talking about here, a Theocracy is “a form of government in which the governmental rulers are identical with the leaders of the dominant religion.” Sounds familiar ? Don’t we have this already in place in our (hmmrph.) democracy ? (hrmmph..excuse this bit of sore throat). Two big examples of theocracies are given, though – the Papal State of Vatican and of, course, Iran. I thought it funny at first that Israel wasn’t given as an example but looking at their leaders, Ariel Sharon isn’t exactly the Head Rabbi. So, I guess the Jewish state is more of a theocracy from a historical standpoint rather an actual functioning Theocracy. The British Monarchy, whose Title , stemming from Henry VIII’s libido, as Head of the Church of England, although seemingly a Theocracy, is actually not one since the monarch’s role is merely ceremonial and separate from Tony Blair’s .
But going back to this land ( yes, from California to the New York Island), isn’t a -Theocracy for us a neat attractive idea ? You know, with religion around – enforced – the kids will be more disciplined, less divorces, less broken families and consequently less crimes, more peace, more productivity – a rising economy and presto! – a better standard of living. We’ll have less discussions and confusions on abortions, stem cell research and even evolution and have more time for our Maker.
A Baptist Press reports on the views of Alan Keyes, a one-time Reagan Administration official and former presidential candidate:
“Americans should demand that they be granted what the tyranny of the courts has sought to wrest from us -- the freedom to live in communities that are governed by laws that reflect our beliefs”
“ Keyes wants an America where Christian churches dominate politics on all by the federal level - all laws and all social norms will be determined by whatever religious persuasion is in the majority. If you don't like it, you can move. If you can't find an American community that isn't dominated by religion, I guess you can just leave the country.”
This is very déjà vu, having heard this threat from different blogs around JU. Keyes has even a geographical concept of how Theocracy is to unfold in the US:
“Keyes acknowledged, Catholicism likely would dominate in the Northeast and Protestantism down South. With a growing Muslim population, a state could even have state-sanctioned Islamic symbols and schools. "I don't think it would be likely, but it would be possible," Keyes told Baptist Press. "It was intended that folks who were of a similar persuasion in terms of religion would be able to establish communities. That's what the first colonialists to America did."
Yeah, right. This goes right along the War Against Terror. Islamic State Vs. Christian State. Yay!
Just One Thing.
How did the Founding Fathers who drafted the US Constitution, as witnesses to these religion-based communities of the “first colonialists” find the collective wisdom to insert the phrase separating the Church from State then ? (Hhmmm).
Regardless of how the Religious Right (Evangelicals) and the rightist politicians interpret the outcome of the last elections (confusion on who used who ), a politicized Religion and/or religious politics has come to fore in the national consciousness. For better or worse, the undying Truth cannot be denied – Theocracy is not Democracy. Period.
