This is something I'd usually leave to Jafo or ID to respond to......but.....much of what goes on is not apparent on the forums. WC/SD is not going to just put out a quick answer without making sure that it's a GOOD answer. I know that Zubaz is in touch with SD staff and the moderators are researching TOS's and TOUs in an effort to find a good permanent solution.

Currently sViz has the most practical solution going and it meets the TOU for Weather.com. METAR is a good source for current weather conditions worldwide but doesn't have good forecast information.

Moderators have emailed Accuweather's developer rep to find out what's possible through their system but have not yet heard back.

It's the weekend so I wouldn't be anticipating any answer in the next 48 hours but know that we are still looking for/supporting the BEST possible solution not just a quick fix.

Having said that, this is still something the community can solve.....the community includes WC & SD. If you're working on a solution....BE SURE that it meets the TOS/TOU of the service from which you obtain the information.....from my reading (half a dozen services so far) I like Wunderground but I still want to see what Accuweather comes back with. Stay tuned....

Im not sure what all the fuss is about..

1: the weather feed is owned by weather.com, they changed the feed and terms to use. for all.

2: it is not stardocks fault. I think many are misconstruing this phrase with *we dont care* which is totally wrong.

3: it is everyones problem including SD in the essence no one can use weather widgets at the moment, we as a community should be working together to fix the issue and research alternative feeds. not sit around placing blame.

4: SD nor WC can alter widgets owned by 3rd parties ( skinners)  and reopload the fixed product. Just like no one can rip skins and repload. its a copyright issue. Master skins ae owned by the skinner thus SD an not repair them and reupload. it has to be done by the skinner who holds the copyright.

5: this has happened many times before, Trillian for example used to change their skinning format constantly rendering the skins already made useless. skinners had to constantly rebuild skins to work with the new version. yes it sucked, but thats the nature of the beast, over coming hurdles was a skinners second pastime.

6: leaving widgets up that no longer work would add to the confusion of those who download them and are not aware of the current issues. Removing then is the responsible thing to do..

Instead of fighting over this and pointing fingers I would have thought this Community would have stepped up and worked together to find a viable solution to the problem at hand.. Reading many of the posts here has really been a let down..

And further more! When is Stardock or WinCustomize going to provide health care for us skinners! [e digicons][/e] [e digicons]o_O[/e] [e digicons]:waaaa:[/e]

Anyway...HG pretty much said it...shit happens! [e digicons]og:[/e] [e digicons]:meow:[/e] [e digicons]:-"[/e] 6 pages for this topic was a bit much.

And the word "exiled" was a bit strong..."removed until updated" would have been more appropriate.

Originally skinning had 2 parts integrated, Graphics design and Code development. We used to have to do both ourselves. LiteStep required tons of lines of code and images to develop one theme. Skin studio for L.S. would have been a dream come true. Being a Developer of the prog at the time I had first hand experience with not only making graphics but pounding out lines of code and pulling hair trying to get the .RC's/commands just right.

With DX in the beginning there were few widgets for DX, skinners like martin/frogboy wrote the scripts/templates and offerd them to the community at large to use. Their kindness allowed non code developers to easily make skins incorporating the templates codes. no one expected SD or any one else to make code for us, if we wanted it we made it and worked to find a way to make it work if it wouldnt work properly.

If sd is taking time and resources to help fix the problem them awesome.. They offer a program with the potential to make custom widgets. I have yet to read any where where they guarantee working scripts for people to use, just a program where one can if they work at it develop their own custom widgets...

so if they go above and beyond that kudos.

I realize it prolly would be in their best interest to help resolve with the issue, as weather widgets have become a beloved part of DX, and the lack of them would hinder it's popularity. But I also have known many SD/WC staff since the beginning and long before WC was concieved, so when I say they are trying to do help just because they care. I know what im talking about..

SD does not need to appoligize for any inconvienence, they didnt break the widgets. But I do know they feel bad that the issue has arised and are working trying to find a legal solution. As are we all..

In times like these in the past, we would all yell OMGWTFBBQPUDDING. then all work together to find a solution. Not demand or expect others to fix it for us. Those who couldnt do much to help sat back and waited for the solution to arise, not add to the stress levels of those working on it..

Patience is a virtue. [e digicons]:star:[/e]

Poor analogy, actually...

What HG means is that with modern skin applications such as SKS, and existing widget coding around for people to use it's quite apparent that there are skinners who have little or no understanding of the coding requirements of our craft.

That's fine in itself, but it does mean they are left dangling and lost when the code changes...or in this case...is broken [by whom-ever].

That analogy is more correctly worded thus...

We used to have to go to the well with a bucket to get water, too, but through the ingenious hard work of others, we now all have running water (most of us anyway) -- if suddenly there was a drought and the aquifer dried up, the water company would say to its customers, "hey -- don't blame us, the plumbing we laid down still works great. If you want water, it's up to you to find some for us to pump".

...and even then it's not really a good analogy...

O.K., I stand corrected.  Since DX is pretty much sorcery to me anyway, I'm going to just wait around and hope with time everything gets back to good.

I have just uploaded themes that have had their weather object converted as shown in section 3a by neophil78. The weather objects now work perfectly but for some reason were rejected.

I also worked most of the night changing all my Master themes so that they also work perfectly.

As this method states :

- This hardcodes NOTHING and the widget goes fine

- If all goes okay (and it will), you can now export the widget again.

Anyone understand this ??

This is true! But seems I have no more desire to share anything on WC after what I've seen and heared here during last days. This work has totally lost a sence for me... [e digicons][/e]

This place already seen the much more significant events like loss Tiggs, Martin, Night Train and a lot of other famous people. What means a few widgets from one ukrainian guy for so Global Project like WC? Just NOTHING! (By the way this looks like in our scripts when we want to clear memory! Seems it's time to clear this memory page)...

So this is not a sad news. This is just a logical conclusion of a long way named "The place of my DesktopX understanding". And now you may trust me - I understood all!

Really!

I'm surprised over some of the drama shown here. My understanding is that people attain the rank of MASTER by being a leader and mentor in the community.

This is the time for the "pioneers" of coding/skinning to step up and come up with solutions (like a few are doing) not to point fingers and leave in a huff!

This attitude saddens me more than anything else.

Yes! But this is very funny! Show me at least one "pioneer" who can produce new codes and I'll be happy. At this moment I'm seeing only two persons who tries work on a new scripts - sViz and Littleboy. That's all and they are not pioneers. Do you really think that this is enough for so large community? Good luck.

EDIT: Sorry I forgot HAPTORK. But this does not change the final result...

I will not leave this place right now. I just stop all projects and will wait for a new version of DesktopX. Then I will take the final decision...