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Misused and abused words / The Phrase

Misused and abused words / The Phrase

Lead/led - "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

Let's start with the most common verb form of "lead": It's pronounced leed, with a long e, and it means, more or less, "to guide," "to direct," or "to be first." So far so good. Its past tense is "led," pronounced with a short e. So, "lead"=present, "led"=past. Sounds easy, right?

The reason this gets confusing is that "lead" can also be a noun. With a long e it means "the person in front" or "leash" or "the first card played" or "the distance a base runner is from the base," as well as some others. But it can also be pronounced with a short e, in which case it's the metal that's in a pencil. (Or was, before lead poisoning, but anyway.) So because "lead" can properly be pronounced with a short e, it's easy to think that that's how the past tense of the verb is spelled--but it's not.

Harry leads his year in detentions
Jack has led SG-1 into some interesting situations.
The lead in my pencil needs sharpening.
Why isn't your dog on a lead?
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Jim led Blair to the temple.

In example:

You Can Lead A Horse To Water, But You Can't Make It Drink ( you can show people how do do things, but people must help themselves ... )
(proverb) says that you can give people what they need to help themselves, but you can't force them to do it; people need to help themselves. Example: "I told her exactly what to do, but she didn't listen to me." Reply: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."

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Reply #26 Top

Couldn't care less: Be sure to make it negative. (Not I could care less.)
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Again, say it like this...

I could care less.  ;P ;P

Reply #27 Top

I coudn't care less that you could care less... and that's being careless.   ;) :(O

Reply #29 Top

What pisses me off is: "could of" when it should be "could have"

... and "rather then" when it should be "rather than"

... as well as "than we will get action" when it should be "then we will get action."

Also: "I lost wait.' when it should be "I lost weight."

Now maybe I could care less if everybody said that they couldn't care less... but I doubt it. ;)

Reply #30 Top

Somehow I suspect that once again we're rowing the same boat.

Reply #31 Top

Somehow I suspect that once again we're rowing the same boat.
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Tho I suspects us 'd actually git somewhar if'n everyone wos rowin' in tha same direcshun... like all tha rowers in tha longboat wur facin' tha same way, mebbe then us'd reach tha shore.

 

Reply #32 Top

Coulda...shoulda...dint.

Could've...should've...didn't.

Could have...should have...did not. It's all about saving paper. Scrunch it all up and one less tree gets chopped down. This way when we're in the boat and everyone's rowing this way and that we just might get someplace...maybe...sometime......

o_O  :rolleyes: *_*

Reply #33 Top

This way when we're in the boat and everyone's rowing
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That thar's all well n' good... 'cepting they cuts down that thar "one less tree' t' build tha boat. :-" :w00t: ;P

Reply #34 Top

EEEUUUWWWWW, This has gone bad I think?  Smell this!!!!:S

Reply #35 Top

EEEUUUWWWWW, This has gone bad I think? Smell this!!!!
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I couldn't care less, I'm eating it.

Reply #36 Top

EEEUUUWWWWW, This has gone bad I think? Smell this!!!!
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Oh well, that'll teach you to go for a third helping of curried cabbage. :rofl:

I couldn't care less, I'm eating it.
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And so you should, my good man... curried cabbage never hurt anyone... 'cepting perhaps the missus on 'Dutch Ovens' night.

:rofl:

Reply #37 Top

Quoting starkers, reply 6
Somehow I suspect that once again we're rowing the same boat.

Tho I suspects us 'd actually git somewhar if'n everyone wos rowin' in tha same direcshun... like all tha rowers in tha longboat wur facin' tha same way, mebbe then us'd reach tha shore.
End of starkers's quote

Howzit possible? You're upside down!

Reply #38 Top

There is no such thing as 'more pregnant'.  Pregnant is an absolute.

Same goes for 'full'.

and 'empty'.

Reply #39 Top

There is no such thing as 'more pregnant'. Pregnant is an absolute.

Same goes for 'full'.
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Hehe, back when I was drinking there were times when I got more full than others... on the occasions I only got half full, well that was because I ran out of funds and couldn't get completely pissed.

:-"

Reply #40 Top

In all seriousness, none of this matters. Immigrants refuse to learn the language so in a decade or so we won't know whether people mean up or down.
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I'm not too sure if it's "refusal"............. I've seen anything and everything in whatever language You can name, and I too have wondered, why haven't all these poeple learned English by now ??? On Saturday I made an observation and I think I've found the answer! I saw an ad for English lessons that I've seen hundreds of times before on the side of an N.Y.C. M.T.A bus .......and then it hit Me!!!! ( No, not the bus!!! ) The ad is in English!!!! o_O :grin:

Reply #41 Top

And RedneckDude shoulda oughtta learned 'em Suthin the way its spoke.
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Whut tha......

 

Yall can leed a hoss to watur, but bahfor ya do.................................

 

 

jiss rumimbur how a wet hoss smells!!   

Reply #42 Top

Here's one that really chaps my ass....when the President of the U.S. says nucular!!!    I could just smack him! That was George Dubya, by the way. Said it all the time. It's N-U-C-L-E-A-R!!!!   Pronounced noo-clee-urr !!!

Reply #43 Top

I may very well be a redneck, but it kills me to hear people say things like, "I done it already."  or " I seen that yesterday!"  Or even " I done did that!"   You hear these a lot here in the sticks.

I have a cheesehead friend in Wisconsin that says "Hey Jim, ya want me to BRING you to the gas station?" Rather than TAKE me to the gas station.

Reply #44 Top

 

Oh, and "I like these" or "I like this one" NOT "I like these one's"

:D

 

Reply #45 Top

i hear this a lot

i hafta instead of

i have to :)   

Reply #46 Top

A few years back I worked with an American who was on call, and sometimes I'd have to call him back in for an hour or so... and on occasion I would get the answering machine: "Ya'll, we dhun gone out.. ya'll knows whut t' do after thu tone."

I hated ringing his place to hear that, so luckily for me there were a couple of others on call... fellers wot could talk the Queens English all proper like.

:-"

Reply #47 Top

     "Us peoples over to here dunt speak Engwish. We speaks American-easee. "cause...'cause it's easier than the King's Engwish. Who says him own it anyways? They say over to here am a meltin' pot. I dunt see no pot to melt stuff in. Maybe 'cause them am too busy smokin' it...hehe."

Reply #48 Top

I hated ringing his place to hear that, so luckily for me there were a couple of others on call... fellers wot could talk the Queens English all proper like.
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Ah, ya'll think yer all knowed up, with your fancy talkn' and all.

Reply #49 Top

Quoting BONEHEADdb, reply 23

I hated ringing his place to hear that, so luckily for me there were a couple of others on call... fellers wot could talk the Queens English all proper like.

Ah, ya'll think yer all knowed up, with your fancy talkn' and all.

End of BONEHEADdb's quote

Ah, but I are all knowed up... dun got teached proper English by and English teacher wot learneded her stuff all proper like.

Which reminds me of a 'stiff upper lip versus the colonial' story:

During WW1 a very prim and proper English officer spots an Australian digger's slouch hat in the mud and feels it is not a dignified end for a hat that's been worn so proudly.  As he is trying to remove it a very Australian head emerges from the mud and the cavalry corporal retorts: "Strewth, mate, can't yer bleedin' wait 'til I gets me flamin' feet outta the stirrups?"

The Engish officer is dismayed at the corpral's lack of respect for the language and asks: "Sir, do you not know the King's English?"

The corporal replies: "Strewth, mate, I'm here fighting for the bastard, so I flamin' well hope he is!" :-"

Reply #50 Top

XD

English by and English teacher
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English by an English English teacher....wot? ;)

Where's that Aussie upstart Jafo when we need him. Oh sh!t.... guard the sheep!

There is no such thing as 'more pregnant'. Pregnant is an absolute.
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Not really so: Ask the decatetramom (octomom plus her prior sextuplets). That's pregnant and a half, Jafo.  :P