Just another form of love

Or, the kind of S&M I'm not into

We have the Sundance Channel on cable now. As I'm writing this there's a show about S&M called 'Whipped' being broadcast. So far, what's been made apparent is the need of those involved to qualify what they're doing as a different expression of love.

Pardon me, but that's simply bullshit. Love is an all-consuming fascination with the good of the loved Other. Sadism is an all-consuming fascination with the pleasure of the Self, just as Masochism is, though they each have entirely separate expressions.

The Sadist does not love the body he tortures, much less the person. He loves the pain of the body, and the subservience of the person. In the moment of true Sadistic exaltation it is only an innate cunning, a self-interested calculus of risk and gratification, that prevents him from exerting his will in a frenzy of self-gratification - not love.

The Sadist does not love the Masochist he tortures as he tortures her - but she is the absolute and total center of his attention, the burning and perfect moment when he is at rest in everything he is and does while being perfectly, easily, in motion.

That's not love. That's riding the body and pain and blood and spittle and tears of another out into the infinite to meet with God, a consummation that's entirely selfish.

So let's put aside once and for all the idea that there's love in Sadism or Masochism. There isn't. There's lust, terror, and obsession; there's pride and there's rage and there's understanding. In those perfect moments there's no love, only an unfettered but calculating self-interest. And the same is true for the Masochist, who uses just as much as she's used. And for the same reasons, reversed. It's no wonder that Masochists make such good dommes. They know what power looks like from the far side, and they can mimic exactly how it works.

It wasn't a bad show. But it tries to make Sadism and Masochism warm and fuzzy.

They aren't.

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Excellent article. I do admire your ability to cut out the "fuzzy" crap and get to the reality of things.

Dyl xx
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now that is a funny picture, the warm and fuzzy sadist/masochist
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No fuzzy logic from the emperor of Ice cream.
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Hmmm... I guess I don't get that channel....

now that is a funny picture, the warm and fuzzy sadist/masochist

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To Danny Bassette:

it is quite comical, watching the contortions that some who are into D/s-BDSM put themselves through, trying to make a perversion acceptable by dressing it up as 'love'. Child molesters love little kids. Heroin addicts love the needle and what it carries, alcoholics love the bottle. Nuns love Jesus, President Bush loves America, and I as her husband love my wife. Just because it's love doesn't mean it's not toxic.

Myself, I prefer honest poisons and honest poisoners.

If you hurt someone it's to hear them scream. If you hurt someone in a sexual setting it's because hearing her (or him) scream gets you hard or gets you wet. And if you like to be hurt, and made to scream, it's because pain turns you on - for whatever reason.

You can't love the hand that makes you bleed - none of us can. We can love the person behind the hand, later. But in the moment that the blade cuts flesh you can't love the hand that holds and uses it. But you can hate it, and be addicted to the hate, and the unfettered rage, and the catharsis of being made to feel it.

But that's the thing, that never gets expressed in a 'scene' or a 'role-play'. If its real, then it's not play: you really suffer, you really bleed, and you really hate. Just as, on the other side, you really want the screams, and the blood, and the tears - for their own sake.

There's nothing safe, sane or consensual in Sadism or Masochism. And to see those who don't understand what it is they are pretending to do act as though there were, is truly laughable.
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THIS, this article, is what I have been waiting for from you.  I've been fascinated with you, your wife and your lifestyle for months....but too ashamed, embarrased or shy to ask you about it.  Sexually I'm a bit...backwards, I guess.  Experienced, yes, but mostly in the vanilla-flavored straight kind of sex, no deviations to speak of (apart from one small dalliance with a very lovely girl last year, but that was nothing to write home about).


Fascinating.  Write some more.....please?

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To dharmagrl:

Certainly I'll write more. I appreciate an intelligent, interested audience. And since you are interested, and there may be things you want to ask about but don't feel comfortable doing so in JU, here's my email.

[email protected].

A 24/7, total power exchange (TPE) relationship can't be played, can't be acted. In our case its made up of three distinct relationships that sometimes work together, sometimes work against each other. Sadist and Masochist. Master and slave. Husband and wife. It's the interplay of these things that drives the relationship as a whole.

And my Sadism, her Masochism, is not restricted to the bedroom, nor is it always necessarily sexual. And when it is sexual, sex doesn't necessarily enter into what we do.

I make her want things and then deny them to her, until I'm satisfied that in a given moment, for that moment, she no longer wants them. And then I force them on her.

Sadism doesn't always make use of whips, chains, paddles and knives. What it does is cause pain, knowingly, and for the sake of pleasure.

I hope these few words have pointed out some of the more common misconceptions of Sadism and Sadists, Masochism and Masochists.

Feel free to ask what you want.
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A 24/7, total power exchange (TPE) relationship can't be played, can't be acted

No, because it's a lifestyle.  A 'game' implies that there is some ending, some cessation.  With lifestyle, there is no such thing.  You can't just turn off what and how you are....you can subdue it for propriety's sake, cover it and dress it up, but it's always there.

Sadist and Masochist. Master and slave. Husband and wife. It's the interplay of these things that drives the relationship as a whole.

I would imagine that there aren't any clearly defined lines between those relationships either.  They'd have to intermingle and meld in order to become functional....am I right?

And my Sadism, her Masochism, is not restricted to the bedroom, nor is it always necessarily sexual. And when it is sexual, sex doesn't necessarily enter into what we do.

And that's the biggest mistake the mainstream public makes, I think.  People think that because they're adding a little spice to their lives with handcuffs and a plastic cat-o-nine-tails they're sadists and masochists.  Not so.  A true sadistic relationship, from what I understand, is all encompassing.  It permeates every aspect of a person's life....it's not confined to the bedroom.  Again, this is just based on what I've read....so if I'm full of shit feel free to tell me so.

 

make her want things and then deny them to her, until I'm satisfied that in a given moment, for that moment, she no longer wants them. And then I force them on her.

I'm starting to think that my husband has sadistic tendencies.......