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Demigod Pantheon Statistics - Log/Info/Suggestions

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Hello everyone,

As Stardock's web developer, I was tasked with creating a statistics website for Demigod using the ungodly amount of data we (will) have available to us.  That website is now located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com.  A bunch of you already saw the "beta" version a few weeks back.  While this site is still a beta, I am happy enough with it to remove the beta message that was at the top of the page in the previous version.

Today I pushed an update that added a bunch of new statistics, pages, and a slight redesign. Starting today I will be keeping a log of changes to the site in this post.  I will also be checking for any suggestions, ideas, or feedback you guys may have on the site, so feel free to reply with any ideas. 

Please keep in mind that the site is still a work in progress.  Some numbers are still off, the design will likely be changed some more, and we will be adding more statistics in the future.  It will likely be updated a few more times before Demigod's release.

Change Log:
9/21/2009
- Fixed how player stats are saved to the database, so custom games now count for Ladder Rankings/Experience (not all custom games though, just ranked custom games).
- Added Notes tab to player pages. This will allow you to view and manage private notes for other players, which will eventually appear within Demigod itself. Only you can view notes you've written, and you cannot view other's notes or notes written about you.
- The player stats on the left side of the primary player page now includes a small description for each stat.
- Fixed minor bugs with graphs.
- Fixed other minor bugs.

6/5/2009
- Added "Ladder" stats and rankings, which include Skirmish and Pantheon games.
- Updated "Overall" stats to include everything, Overall is not ranked.
- Added Tournament Stats to player stats page.
- Player's games listing now shows "NA" if a game is not counted.
- Updated search page to show more information and be more informative.
- Updated achievements page, it will be turned on when the stats are reset.
- Other minor bug fixes and design changes.

5/18/2009
- Added graphs for each Pantheon tournament.
- Added graphs for maps.
- Added graphs for Demigods.
- Minor bug fixes.
- More changes to back-end for API.

5/11/2009
- Player stat charts!  Go to any player's initial page and you'll see some cool new charts and a slightly different layout.
- New tournament lists page (click on View All Tournaments at the bottom of any Pantheon page).
- Added current team progress chart (by percentage) to the right of the Pantheon page.
- Minor performance and back-end tweaks.

4/29/2009
- Lots of back-end changes to prepare for public API.
- Added sorting options to the Top Demigods and Maps pages.
- Updated all pages to make a more consistent error message system.
- Updated player search to avoid certain errors.

4/24/2009
- Maps statistics!  You can now view overall statistics for each map, as well as how you did on each map.
- Fixed up some search issues.
- Added "Skirmish Statistics" to the player info page, on the bar to the right (click on Overall Statistics to see a dropdown).
- The games list now shows the game name.
- Tons of changes in the backend to make things faster and more accurate.

4/9/2009
- Added Top Demigods section, showing which Demigods are being used the most, win the most, etc.
- Added Demigods tab to player info page, showing which Demigods each player has played their stats for that Demigod (note: stats are inaccurate for the time being).
- Added Skirmish Rankings tab to Top Players.
- Major changes to how we are collecting stats and data.
- Minor image and backend changes.

4/7/2009
- Added sorting to games list, search sorting coming later.
- Added small arrow icons to headers to show you which column is currently sorted, and in which direction.
- Updated games listing to make it more readable, added a new page for each game for extended info (click on the date to see the page).
- Minor background changes.

3/31/2009
- Sorting now works on rankings pages, has not yet been implemented into other pages.
- Search page columns slightly tweaked.
- Search bar now works properly in Chrome.
- Player info page now shows rank and favor points for overall and custom game stats.
- Other minor changes.

3/23/2009
- New design!
- Added experience and overall rank to search page.  All search statistics should now be "overall" statistics, not custom game or tournament stats.
- All pages now have proper headers and titles, should make things easier to navigate and harder to get lost.
- Player info page now shows the player's avatar and lists tournaments the player has participated in by default.
- General player statistics are now relegated to the right side of the player info page.  Clicking on "Overall Stats" will dropdown a box that allows you to switch between overall and custom game stats.
- Search box now submits by pressing enter.
- Added message to bottom of ranking page saying "Note: Rankings are updated once daily at midnight EST."
- Small presentation changes for numbers and dates.

3/10/2009
- Added new "Experience" rating on nearly any page that shows a player.
- You can now see what team a player is on for tournament rankings.
- Games list now shows the game type (Conquest, Flag Control, etc.).
- Added player count for each team on the tournament info page (note: this may not be accurate at the moment).
- Added "Top Clans" button that redirects to nowhere (for now).
- Renamed all instances of "Skirmish" to "Custom Games" (let me know if you find any I missed).
- Added tabs to top of rankings pages to switch between Overall rankings and Custom Game rankings.
- All instances of "Forces of Dark" renamed to "Forces of Darkness."
- Minor design, wording, and bug fixes.

3/5/2009
- Redesigned the player page and added tabs for separating stats in a more user-friendly manner.
- Added a player search bar to all Pantheon pages (top right corner).
- Separated skirmish, overall, and tournament stats into individual pages.
- Added an achievements page, but data is inaccurate (see Known Bugs below).
- You can now view a list of games a player has played.
- Clicking on any rank number will take you to the rankings list with that player highlighted.
- Added 2 buttons at the top of the page: Pantheon Tournaments and Top Players.
- "Pantheon Tournaments" button will take you to the latest (active or inactive) Pantheon tournament.
- Top Players now shows overall top players, not skirmish top players.
- Tournament information page now shows each team, the top players for that team, and the team's information.

Once again, the Pantheon statistics website is located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com.  I look forward to your feedback!

Bara

demigod
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Reply #226 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 25


HorseRadish: I didn't realize that the achievement items page lists your favor points too.  That, actually, is the single player favor points, and does not affect the multiplayer afaik.  However, GPG has a solution and should be pushing it out soon.  I believe they're currently testing it (unless they pushed an update late last night that I don't know about).

Bara
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I have never played a single player game!!!   So how do I have Favor?

Didn't think it was worth the time after 8 months of beta testing.

And why does that number match my in game favor?

Reply #227 from Demigod Forums Top

I believe multiplayer favor points do affect some aspects of single player.  However, the multiplayer favor points are calculated on the server end, not the client end, whereas the single player is calculated in-game at the end. 

You said the number matches your in-game number?  So in a multiplayer game you're getting negative favor points?  According to the database, your overall favor points are 4445.

Bara

Siege of Centauri
Reply #228 from Demigod Forums Top

Bara

I still don't have stats that I can find. At least not on http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/.

I've played every day since Saturday (not yet today), not just on the weekend. :D

 

Thanks,

Matt

Reply #229 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 2
I believe multiplayer favor points do affect some aspects of single player.  However, the multiplayer favor points are calculated on the server end, not the client end, whereas the single player is calculated in-game at the end. 

You said the number matches your in-game number?  So in a multiplayer game you're getting negative favor points?  According to the database, your overall favor points are 4445.

Bara
End of GunslingerBara's quote

Bara when I get home today And I launch Demigod and go to multiplayer Pantheon. I click fight and I get into a game I will have -2090 Favor and the option to use the Swift Anklet Favor item I purchased long ago. can't pick a new one with negative favor. I mean I still win but Thier are other favor items I prefer unless you can guarentee me all domination matches.

Reply #230 from Demigod Forums Top

I'm getting negative favor now too.  Once you guys put the proxy patch through it might be best just to scrap Epoch 0 and start over from scratch...Also you might want to close the code loophole that allows you to enter your own favor point total in multiplayer games..

Reply #231 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting wzrd, reply 3
Bara

I still don't have stats that I can find. At least not on http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/.

I've played every day since Saturday (not yet today), not just on the weekend.

Thanks,

Matt
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Quoting HorseRadish, reply 4

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 2I believe multiplayer favor points do affect some aspects of single player.  However, the multiplayer favor points are calculated on the server end, not the client end, whereas the single player is calculated in-game at the end. 

You said the number matches your in-game number?  So in a multiplayer game you're getting negative favor points?  According to the database, your overall favor points are 4445.

Bara

Bara when I get home today And I launch Demigod and go to multiplayer Pantheon. I click fight and I get into a game I will have -2090 Favor and the option to use the Swift Anklet Favor item I purchased long ago. can't pick a new one with negative favor. I mean I still win but Thier are other favor items I prefer unless you can guarentee me all domination matches.
End of HorseRadish's quote
Quoting Ke5trel, reply 5
I'm getting negative favor now too.  Once you guys put the proxy patch through it might be best just to scrap Epoch 0 and start over from scratch...Also you might want to close the code loophole that allows you to enter your own favor point total in multiplayer games..
End of Ke5trel's quote

We have a fix forthcoming for both issues.  The negative favor points bug will be fixed in an update coming up.  As far as I know, it's still in testing.  I may have a solution for the "games not getting saved" bug and we'll be pushing an update for that later today too.

Ke5trel: How can you change your favor points?  That's the first I've heard of it, but GPG may already know about it.

Bara

Reply #232 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 6



Quoting wzrd,
reply 3
Bara

I still don't have stats that I can find. At least not on http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/.

I've played every day since Saturday (not yet today), not just on the weekend.

Thanks,

Matt


Quoting HorseRadish,
reply 4

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 2I believe multiplayer favor points do affect some aspects of single player.  However, the multiplayer favor points are calculated on the server end, not the client end, whereas the single player is calculated in-game at the end. 

You said the number matches your in-game number?  So in a multiplayer game you're getting negative favor points?  According to the database, your overall favor points are 4445.

Bara

Bara when I get home today And I launch Demigod and go to multiplayer Pantheon. I click fight and I get into a game I will have -2090 Favor and the option to use the Swift Anklet Favor item I purchased long ago. can't pick a new one with negative favor. I mean I still win but Thier are other favor items I prefer unless you can guarentee me all domination matches.


Quoting Ke5trel,
reply 5
I'm getting negative favor now too.  Once you guys put the proxy patch through it might be best just to scrap Epoch 0 and start over from scratch...Also you might want to close the code loophole that allows you to enter your own favor point total in multiplayer games..


We have a fix forthcoming for both issues.  The negative favor points bug will be fixed in an update coming up.  As far as I know, it's still in testing.  I may have a solution for the "games not getting saved" bug and we'll be pushing an update for that later today too.

Ke5trel: How can you change your favor points?  That's the first I've heard of it, but GPG may already know about it.

Bara
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go into game.prefs with notepad do a find for points= and change the number after to something under 10000

instant favor

Reply #233 from Demigod Forums Top

Does that work in multiplayer?  Support tested that a few days ago and when they went into a custom game in multiplayer the number was different.

Bara

Reply #234 from Demigod Forums Top

it does, you just have to play a LAN game first.  I haven't tried it but any of the Live gang should be able to replicate it for you. 

Edit: O and you were looking for an example of a Skirmish game with stupidly asymmetrical sides earlier -  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/348495

Reply #235 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting HorseRadish, reply 4



Quoting GunslingerBara,
reply 2
I believe multiplayer favor points do affect some aspects of single player.  However, the multiplayer favor points are calculated on the server end, not the client end, whereas the single player is calculated in-game at the end. 

You said the number matches your in-game number?  So in a multiplayer game you're getting negative favor points?  According to the database, your overall favor points are 4445.

Bara



Bara when I get home today And I launch Demigod and go to multiplayer Pantheon. I click fight and I get into a game I will have -2090 Favor and the option to use the Swift Anklet Favor item I purchased long ago. can't pick a new one with negative favor. I mean I still win but Thier are other favor items I prefer unless you can guarentee me all domination matches.
End of HorseRadish's quote

Here was my ingame favor first game i launched when i got home Bara like I said -2090 favor

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5808/ingamefavor.jpg

Reply #236 from Demigod Forums Top

Thanks for the screenshot.  GPG is still working on a patch for that.

How about the issues with games not being saved?  Are the stats saving for everyone now?

Bara

Reply #237 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 11
Thanks for the screenshot.  GPG is still working on a patch for that.

How about the issues with games not being saved?  Are the stats saving for everyone now?

Bara
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I played a 2v3 on Crucible this evening and it doesn't seem to be showing up in my games list.  (EDIT) now it is -- I may have been mislead by the fact that the overall statistics seem to lag behind actual games played.  I also get the games in weird pairs with one of the entries in the pair having the wrong outcome and no participants.  e.g., here's the real game I just played, 3v3 on Leviathan:

 

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/257287/player/11954/

 

and here's a "game" that Pantheon claims I lost at exactly the same time:

 

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/257294/player/11954/

Reply #238 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 11
Thanks for the screenshot.  GPG is still working on a patch for that.

How about the issues with games not being saved?  Are the stats saving for everyone now?

Bara
End of GunslingerBara's quote

Finally have stats showing up! Thanks for the fix, Bara.

Reply #239 from Demigod Forums Top

I've been playing both custom and pantheon games every day for almost the last week. None of the games were being recorded until lats night. Having said that, I think the accuracy of the recording still leaves something to be desired.

 

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/games/player/20965/

 

It shows me as playing two games at the exact same time on cataract, one a custom game and one a pantheon game. The only game I actually played was the pantheon game.

 

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/254596/player/20965/

 

For this specific game it shows me losing badly when I am 100% certain that my team won that game in a rout.

Reply #240 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting lambdaman, reply 12

I played a 2v3 on Crucible this evening and it doesn't seem to be showing up in my games list.  (EDIT) now it is -- I may have been mislead by the fact that the overall statistics seem to lag behind actual games played.  I also get the games in weird pairs with one of the entries in the pair having the wrong outcome and no participants.  e.g., here's the real game I just played, 3v3 on Leviathan:

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/257287/player/11954/

and here's a "game" that Pantheon claims I lost at exactly the same time:

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/257294/player/11954/
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Quoting Copingsaw, reply 14
I've been playing both custom and pantheon games every day for almost the last week. None of the games were being recorded until lats night. Having said that, I think the accuracy of the recording still leaves something to be desired.

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/games/player/20965/

It shows me as playing two games at the exact same time on cataract, one a custom game and one a pantheon game. The only game I actually played was the pantheon game.

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/254596/player/20965/

For this specific game it shows me losing badly when I am 100% certain that my team won that game in a rout.
End of Copingsaw's quote

This is a common issue and is being looked into.  Did anyone drop from your games, if you know?  Even if they dropped during the initial setup before the game started, that would be good to know.  In the meantime, I'll see what I can do on the stats end to ignore those games.

Bara

Reply #241 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 15

This is a common issue and is being looked into.  Did anyone drop from your games, if you know?  Even if they dropped during the initial setup before the game started, that would be good to know.  In the meantime, I'll see what I can do on the stats end to ignore those games.

Bara
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I haven't played a pantheon game where someone from the losing team hasn't droped before the end of the game. So, yes, someone did drop from the games. I cannot remember if someone dropped during the initial setup on any of the games I referenced.

Reply #242 from Demigod Forums Top

Alright, I'm still clinging to the idea that drops are what is causing the duplicates games issue.  GPG, T-Man, and CariElf are working on a system to handle drops and quits better.  Once that system is completed and in-place, the duplicate games issue should disappear.

Once that happens, I'll go back and update everyone's games and remove the duplicates we have now.

Bara

Reply #243 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 15

This is a common issue and is being looked into.  Did anyone drop from your games, if you know?  Even if they dropped during the initial setup before the game started, that would be good to know.  In the meantime, I'll see what I can do on the stats end to ignore those games.
End of GunslingerBara's quote

 

I know for sure that in the 2v3, two of the three players on the other side dropped once we started winning.  I don't remember any drops in the other game, but there may have been one pre-game that I didn't notice.

Reply #244 from Stardock Forums Top

I've read through this thread and this is probably the best place to ask the question: I've been playing a few pantheon games each day for the last 3-4 days, but I can't seem to find anywhere to see a record of my game stats? Do you have to earn a certain amount of favor points or experience before being able to see stats on the website?

Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can provide! :)

Reply #245 from Demigod Forums Top

It doesn't seem as if my tournament page has updated, even though I lost a few games tuesday night after the stats collecting fix went live. http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/player/24477/tournamentstats/

I have a theory... I was one of those players who was able to pick a light character even though I sided with dark for the tournament. (I didn't even know it was a bug at the time, I thought all characters were available for either side) As you can see on my stat page I have one win registered to rook. After that game I switched to UB, and ever since then I've been locked into the dark side as I should be... but no stats have been collected. So maybe my initial light-side pick screwed up my stats collection?

Hope this helps!

 

Reply #246 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting defuniak, reply 19
I've read through this thread and this is probably the best place to ask the question: I've been playing a few pantheon games each day for the last 3-4 days, but I can't seem to find anywhere to see a record of my game stats? Do you have to earn a certain amount of favor points or experience before being able to see stats on the website?

Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can provide!
End of defuniak's quote

No games were saved the past few days.  Yesterday afternoon the server was updated and a fix was included to resolve the problem.  Please try playing a few games today, then check the site at midnight to see if your name shows up in the search list and that your data is accurate.

Quoting InterFaced, reply 20
It doesn't seem as if my tournament page has updated, even though I lost a few games tuesday night after the stats collecting fix went live. http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/player/24477/tournamentstats/

I have a theory... I was one of those players who was able to pick a light character even though I sided with dark for the tournament. (I didn't even know it was a bug at the time, I thought all characters were available for either side) As you can see on my stat page I have one win registered to rook. After that game I switched to UB, and ever since then I've been locked into the dark side as I should be... but no stats have been collected. So maybe my initial light-side pick screwed up my stats collection?

Hope this helps!

 
End of InterFaced's quote

There was another problem that was fixed yesterday with stat collecting.  Please try a few games today and check back at midnight to see if your games were saved.

Bara

Reply #247 from Demigod Forums Top

All pantheon games I played today except for one were saved to the website as custom games for some reason. There definitely were humans in the games, and in most cases one or more dropped before the match ended.

link:

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/player/13119/tournamentstats/

Reply #248 from Demigod Forums Top

You mean all of your Pantheon games were saved again as custom games right?  Your games list shows plenty of Pantheon games, but also a custom game after each one.

Bara

Reply #249 from Stardock Forums Top

Also with the favor point problem, not sure if this is known or not but I had played single player almost 20 hrs before going to multiplayer. I had all my favor items purchased and a lot of excess favor points. I went to play multiplayer I made about 200 or so favor points. Went back to single player when the servers went down last friday night and my single player favor points matched my multiplayer points of around 200 and I all purchased favor items were not purchased any more.

Reply #250 from Demigod Forums Top

April 23rd i played 3 games,

1 pantheon conquest and won.

1 pantheon (all players dced and bots only so i dropped)

1 pantheon  prison dominate and won (this game is coming up as custom and lost) it was a 2v 2 match at first 2 players dropped (1 a side).

 

Stats aren't being recorded correctly.