[BALANCE]Oaks Spirits (2)

Ive made a post about this in beta 3, but they gave spirits a nice nerf in beta 3A.

I just think the only problem with them atm is their really high DPS...which is okay, but when it comes to Oak soloing buildings, they get raped way too fast.

Changes needed:

Spirit Numbers - Reduced from 12 to 10

Spirit DPS - Stays the same, but damage vs Towers reduced. Currently they just rape them...even without Oak with them. They shouldnt be able to do this.

Thats it for now. Either do one or the other, or both. For 3B this would be great, and if its really too big of a nerf (cant see that happening) then change them back to as they are now.

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Reply #1 Top

Their AI sucks too much to nerf them. They only hit moving targets if they walk on a steep angle in to them. If their AI got under control I'd probably agree with doing something to them, but we're not there yet.

Reply #2 Top

Thats why they are too good against towers - a stationary target - and why a nerf to tower damage would be useful.

Reply #3 Top

I didn't get that feeling of almightyness against towers. Maybe on isolated ones, but they tend to die in number with splach damage. I admit I almost nether do anything to boost their damage, since as HD300 stated it, AI makes minions uneffective against DG. They are my own weapon boosting reserve :p

Reply #4 Top

My only problem with minions atm is their ability to rape towers. Thats all. Since towers are stationary they can emitt their full DPS on them which is pretty freaking high :) Keep everything the same, just nerf tower damage to a certain extent.

Reason I have mentioned Reduce from 12 to 10 is because when you +minon damage, you get so much extra dps compared to other minons. With 4 yetis, + 30 weapon means a total of 120 extra damage. With Spirits +30 dps means a extra 360...

Reply #5 Top

There's something more important than towers with this, and that's the Citadel.  Ever see how fast one goes down to Spirits fully upgraded with Morale?  And with how mobs/creeps congregate at a Citadel, it's like an unlimited supply of them.

I still think they're too powerful as is, I notice my friends have a very, very hard time holding ground at a flag when I move in with Oak and his entourage.

Reply #6 Top

The last thing that needs nerfed right now is tower damage Dalzk. I think spirits are pretty well balanced now, they should probably be able to hit a moving target (below a certain speed, say 6.5-7.0?).