Hanging Chads...

Could someone tell me why I'm losing an election? I have 71% approval and I go from 96% in the senate to 0%. Please, if I'm missing something critical let me know, but as far as I knew, approval was the only gauge of election results.
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Reply #1 Top
You sure you're losing the election? 71% approval should be a sure thing to win.
Reply #3 Top

It pulls from the overall Approval Rating when tabulating senate wins/losses, not from the individual planets, unfourtunatly, so thats not the problem.  :(   Really, once you've secured anything over 55% you should be a shoe-in to regain senate control.  If you can save a game before this weirdness happens (and it's reproducable) send it to [email protected] and I'll take a peek at it. 

Thanks  :)

Reply #4 Top
Er, I would say losing with a 71% approval rate is surprising but not unheard of. I've lost control with approval ratings in the 60s before.

I don't know how it really works, but I would have guessed that votes are determined by "rolling the dice" for each senator based on the approval rating. Even with 100x71% chances, sometimes you're going to end up with less than 50 people rolling in your favor.

Any combinatorics specialists available? What are the odds of 50 (or more) out of 100 random numbers between 1-100 being over 71?
Reply #5 Top
(29/100)^51 ....
+(29/100)^(50+n) + ....
+(29/100)^100

29% chance per senator.

chance of 51 senators + chance of 52 senators + chance of 53...plus chance of 100 senators.

ie, pretty damn small?
Reply #6 Top
The summation's a bit different (for instance, order doesn't matter; it's more like sum (i=x to 100) of C(100,x) * p^x * (1-p)^(100-x) for x dissenters and p probability of voting against. Even allowing for 40 dissenters, though, with a 29% of dissent you'd expect to have 50 voting against only ~0.0008 % of the time if were a uniform die roll considering only morale.
Reply #7 Top
There are other things that influence the senate other than just the approval rating. Being too far behind on your military score causes the war party to gain in strength, etc. Or maybe they just use that for how they distribute those that the party looses. I have noticed that when you loose senators, they usually go wherever you're weakest.
Reply #8 Top
Well it's a beginner game and I'm kicking, so I think I can rule out loosing senators to being behind in anything. I've tried it about a dozen times, and each time I lose, though sometimes getting more than 0 votes (the highest was 6, still that's losing 90 votes). I've also tried eliminating taxes, which does let me win, but then only barely. Does this new information discount the possibility of a bug? I'll mail it to you even if it isn't a bug BoogieBac, hopefully I'm wrong, and it sounds like this is just bad politiking or something, because nobody else has had this problem (that I've heard of).
Reply #9 Top
More likely the game is keeping a weighted rolling average of taxes, and reacting accordingly. You eliminate them totally and affect the average enough to win. What's your normal tax rate?



~SDC~
Reply #11 Top
When I adjust my tax rate to make approval 98%, I still get not a single vote. And it's totally random too, a different party wins every time. I think I'm going to reinstall the whole thing, maybe it will fix itself.
Reply #12 Top
Hmmm. Bad move. Choosing the repair option causes the game to crash every time my old game is loaded (:(