Do passive abilities ("auras") stack?

Hi, I just got the game A week ago and I'm still starting out, so a little help would be most appriciated.

My question is this: Say you have two advent (my favourite race, the others are too ugly to play ;) ) carriers each with the "amplify energy" aura, does the bonus stack? Is this true for all passive auras?

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Reply #1 Top

They don't stack, I'm pretty sure there are no exceptions. :)

Reply #2 Top

hmm, afaik static auras don't but abillity auras are another matter

 

the advent gurdian shield aura does stack wheresas the antorak's distort gravity does not

in the end you'll have to test it out yourself

 

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Microphasing Aura
Level available: 1 / 3 / 5
Affects: friendly strikecraft
Range: self
Area radius: 8000
Max targets: infinite
Duration: until out of range
Pulse interval: 4 / 4 / 3
Effect(s):
Chance: 20% / 30% / 30%
Teleportation range: 750
Invulnerable
Teleportation duration: 1

is a static aura that im geussing does stack as long as the abillity was chosen at intervals that does not collide( as long as it *pulses* at diff times

Reply #4 Top

is a static aura that im geussing does stack as long as the abillity was chosen at intervals that does not collide( as long as it *pulses* at diff times
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Well, according to the trigger buff file:

onReapplyDuplicateType "KeepOldBuff"

FighterBlink is the only odd aura ability, but it does seem like only the first application of the aura is applied, so 2 carriers wouldn't overlap chances to trigger. But even if they do, this would be the only aura ability that does this. :)

Reply #5 Top

ahh kewl, was just about to launch a game and build 10, if they did stack that would be kinda op i geuss so knowing the dev's have an iq higher than 20 it ofc does not stack

Reply #6 Top

Quoting Kruppe, reply 2
the advent gurdian shield aura does stack
End of Kruppe's quote

I thought this wasn't possible except with the stacking bug in 1.1/1.11...

Reply #7 Top

Yeah, it's the stacking bug.

Reply #8 Top

some things are supposed to stack, they did not. when they fixed it yes some extras got it aswell, but afaik, the gurdians are supposed to stack or there would be no reason to ever have more than 1-2. *forcing a use of that little fleet supply would be utter idiocy imo.

If you only need 2 of a shiptype to make it obsolete it needs to change

 

anyway, as i understand it, it is supposed to stack with diminishing returns  33%-> then 33% of the remainder -> hten 33% of the....  having 1 = 33% - 2 =55% 3= 71% and so on

Reply #9 Top

Well, not quite. The aura itself does not stack and isn't supposed to. You're only ever meant to get a 33% damage share. The diminishing returns is a quirk in the ability among multiple guardians, and it happens because the casting guardian does not apply the buff to itself. So let's say you have 3 guardians in a fleet.

The first one that turns it on shields the fleet, but is itself unshielded. The second guardian's ability doesn't do anything extra to the fleet, but it now shields the first guardian. The third guardian's ability shields the second but not the fleet nor the first. So what you get is when the first takes the shared damage, it's covered by the second so the second takes a 33% of the 33% the first took, and the third then takes the 33% of whatever the second took.. and so on it goes if you have more.

You need more than 2 because the ability drops when the guardians' shields drop. If you only have 2, that happens very fast and you're just making it easy for the opponent to pick them off :)

Reply #10 Top

2x mother ships with lvl3 shield restore 2x guardians no need for more, you wont deplete the shields EVER it needs to stack or it needs to get a complete overhaul.

 

and no it does not happen very fast, atleast not multiplaying focus fire and *only* 33% + a mothership

it makes it a no choices have to be made, if it staks with diminishing you have to choose to use your fleet supply to dps or for survivabillity

the entire point of it is to make focus fire less viable, unstacking you just focus down the guardians and take it from there

stacking you would be better off having your ship take on their types counters to get the shield's down as fast as possible

making the entire fleet loose it's shield at aboutthe same time

 

If focus fire is bad, then stacking is a must

If focus fire is good, then stacking is bad

IMO focus fire is BAD, but that ofc is just opinion

 

dang just updated to 1.12 i geuss that means vasari/tec from now on then if it no longer stacks

QQ and here i thought they where taking it the *right* way and moving away from focus(if focus fire will kill anything in 5sec then the strongest econ wins, /wave at TEC)

btw not stacking make gurdians= clio's

but horris are way better than dominas (3sec cd heal vs 20src channeled)